Mark did that stunt on the infancy of crypto, there was no legislation available at that time and fraud was not a crime on those days when it came to btc.
However if you read the news, many Mark's have been caught and sued because the legislation is keeping its pace with btc.
For this guy, we dont even need to take legal action, if we want to burn him if we (100 guys) file complaints in the canadian embassy they will be sent to canadian authorities and this will raise flags on the guy, i bet the irs and finances are going to investigate his bank accounts.
If we file fraud complaints in our local authorities these will also be drafted to canadian authorities, even if we get 0 btc back the guy will be burned there and will be investigated.
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Besides we know who the guy is, i dont think someone that is so open about his ID and company details is that stupid to scam us.
Ever hear of Mark Karpeles?
Some people made heavy investments here, and its normal that some people have lost their minds and are a bit agressive.
Cut them some slack.
Cut them some slack.
All right.
You´re right, I was too harsh.
Thought he was a member of the hate and scaremongering
brigade that has been ceaselessly campaigning here for
months.
Wait until Puppet wakes up.
Some people made heavy investments here, and its normal that some people have lost their minds and are a bit agressive.
Cut them some slack.
Cut them some slack.
All right.
You´re right, I was too harsh.
Thought he was a member of the hate and scaremongering
brigade that has been ceaselessly campaigning here for
months.
Some people made heavy investments here, and its normal that some people have lost their minds and are a bit agressive.
Cut them some slack.
Its 1:29 uk time, i say we wait 24 hours for action to be done by pbmining to repair or provide us with a proper explanation, if nothing happens we will return in 24 hours and plan what to do next - keep or save any info or data regarding the gentleman and his company for later use should the worst happen.
Thank you all for cooling down, we all have investments here some smaller, some bigger lets do this the right way.
Cut them some slack.
Its 1:29 uk time, i say we wait 24 hours for action to be done by pbmining to repair or provide us with a proper explanation, if nothing happens we will return in 24 hours and plan what to do next - keep or save any info or data regarding the gentleman and his company for later use should the worst happen.
Thank you all for cooling down, we all have investments here some smaller, some bigger lets do this the right way.
Exactly, but I don´t start the fights here.
When someone calls me a thief sailing under
a false flag I reserve the right to address that.
When someone calls me a thief sailing under
a false flag I reserve the right to address that.
Hey Galdur , no offense to you ok, but lets all chill and wait for a reaction from pbmining.
Nothing more we can do at this time.
Nothing more we can do at this time.
Ehh im not the pbmining guy, you can see my profile in btcjam if you want.
Besides we know who the guy is, i dont think someone that is so open about his ID and company details is that stupid to scam us.
If that is the case we can set up a wallet and get legal support, file a complaint with local authorities and file a complaint in the local canadian embassy, one complain wont do much but multiple complaints will ring up alarms in canada.
However i still think this is a bug, lets see what the guy has to say.
Besides we know who the guy is, i dont think someone that is so open about his ID and company details is that stupid to scam us.
If that is the case we can set up a wallet and get legal support, file a complaint with local authorities and file a complaint in the local canadian embassy, one complain wont do much but multiple complaints will ring up alarms in canada.
However i still think this is a bug, lets see what the guy has to say.
This investor respect guy thinks you´re Boyko too?
I guess these suck puppet losers love to project their
ways on others.
Ehh im not the pbmining guy, you can see my profile in btcjam if you want.
Besides we know who the guy is, i dont think someone that is so open about his ID and company details is that stupid to scam us.
If that is the case we can set up a wallet and get legal support, file a complaint with local authorities and file a complaint in the local canadian embassy, one complain wont do much but multiple complaints will ring up alarms in canada.
However i still think this is a bug, lets see what the guy has to say.
Besides we know who the guy is, i dont think someone that is so open about his ID and company details is that stupid to scam us.
If that is the case we can set up a wallet and get legal support, file a complaint with local authorities and file a complaint in the local canadian embassy, one complain wont do much but multiple complaints will ring up alarms in canada.
However i still think this is a bug, lets see what the guy has to say.
Note to self: Always fucking keep cool in the face
of utter stupidity and/or serious psychosis.
of utter stupidity and/or serious psychosis.
If its bdiff this is the next difficulty 38246668793.15972343
Wow, this idiot really thinks I´m this Boyko guy.
Well sorry, I shouldn´t be so rude.
Well sorry, I shouldn´t be so rude.
Talk about hitting the nail right on the head.
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Keep doing what you are doing and you will end up with a self fulfilling prophecy, roaming around forums and posting false acusations on a business will destroy its reputation and scare away customers, and this will ultimatelly kill the business, it dies and yes if it died it must be a scam... sheesh
HERE IS PB BEING A BABY THAT BLAMES EVERYBODY ELSE. YOU KILLED YOUR BUSINESS. IF IT WAS LEGITAMIT, EVEN IF EVERY CUSTOMER LEFT YOU COULD STILL MAKE EVERY PAYOUT. THE ONLY REASON YOU WOULD NEED NEW BLOOD IS TO MAKE PAYOUTS FOR GH YOU SOLD TO THE PREVIOUS CUSTOMERS. IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY "DIES"? BLAME YOUR SELF. EVER THINK TO YOURSELF "THIS IS MY FAULT. I CREATED THIS. I HAVE TO PAY THIS BACK." liars never do. they just point fingers- your a theif
to others: all acounts saying things are confusing or we dont know how they work are ridiculous. it is not complicated at all. these account are by jason
So are we talking pdiff or bdiff when we calculate
Yep, if that were true all btc mining providers would be having the same issue wich they are not, already checked.
Its a bug because the values are proper there but have an extra decimal 0, either that or he is paying us for 10% of our hashpower, however lets hear the admin have its say.
Its a bug because the values are proper there but have an extra decimal 0, either that or he is paying us for 10% of our hashpower, however lets hear the admin have its say.
It´s rather tiresome to try to converse with people that
only consider what fits their own pre-conceived notions.
only consider what fits their own pre-conceived notions.
If I could just add a bit more depth to this issue. In the most simple terms. All the time most of us have been with PB mining, we been in a steep rising difficulty.
Until only recently when we have reached this Plato. What does this mean? It means that all this time we have been solving blocks faster than we than what is planned. , therefore payment to miners was higher.
Until only recently when we have reached this Plato. What does this mean? It means that all this time we have been solving blocks faster than we than what is planned. , therefore payment to miners was higher.
Your earnings are dependent on difficulty, not the actual network hashrate.
Keep doing what you are doing and you will end up with a self fulfilling prophecy, roaming around forums and posting false acusations on a business will destroy its reputation and scare away customers, and this will ultimatelly kill the business, it dies and yes if it died it must be a scam... sheesh
How exactly can anyone kill the business?
If you think they are legit you have nothing to worry about.
Only if they are a ponzi should you be worried because they need new investors to pay the old ones.
Im not very worried because i made a minimal investment here, however this seems to be a bug on the counter as i explained. lets wait for the admin there to have a say on this instead of accusing him outright of being a ponzi.
If I could just add a bit more depth to this issue. In the most simple terms. All the time most of us have been with PB mining, we been in a steep rising difficulty.
Until only recently when we have reached this Plato. What does this mean? It means that all this time we have been solving blocks faster than we than what is planned. , therefore payment to miners was higher. Cloud mining payments were higher and happening in shorter period of time. Now with difficulty steady and even dropping miners are sharing less. I've seen it on all cloudmining sites. What I see, and you can see it too on http://bitcoinwatch.com/ Is on a day when difficulty is on the rise and up into 6 + blocks each hour, your payment will be high, but on a day when difficulty is going lower and networks is only solving 5 blocks each hour your payment on those days will be low, see for yourself on other sites that claim to be mining. A hundred GHS makes some interesting math. each day it pays out, and each day it correlates with the difficulty trend. Not that I'm recommending any of them but the payment is interesting and it correlates with the difficulty. Over all the trend at this plato is low payments. I don't see this as skimming, I think it is what cloudmining in general is becoming. Hasn't everyone been worned? don't invest what you can't afford to loose. Have some fun with this but it's not going to get you rich, hopefully you won't loose your bitcoin. It may take a long time to breakeven, maybe this isn't even worth doing, unless you are a bit of a gambler.
Until only recently when we have reached this Plato. What does this mean? It means that all this time we have been solving blocks faster than we than what is planned. , therefore payment to miners was higher. Cloud mining payments were higher and happening in shorter period of time. Now with difficulty steady and even dropping miners are sharing less. I've seen it on all cloudmining sites. What I see, and you can see it too on http://bitcoinwatch.com/ Is on a day when difficulty is on the rise and up into 6 + blocks each hour, your payment will be high, but on a day when difficulty is going lower and networks is only solving 5 blocks each hour your payment on those days will be low, see for yourself on other sites that claim to be mining. A hundred GHS makes some interesting math. each day it pays out, and each day it correlates with the difficulty trend. Not that I'm recommending any of them but the payment is interesting and it correlates with the difficulty. Over all the trend at this plato is low payments. I don't see this as skimming, I think it is what cloudmining in general is becoming. Hasn't everyone been worned? don't invest what you can't afford to loose. Have some fun with this but it's not going to get you rich, hopefully you won't loose your bitcoin. It may take a long time to breakeven, maybe this isn't even worth doing, unless you are a bit of a gambler.
we dont get paid out from mining-we get paid out by units of gh owned-all payouts ever were paid out at 99% nothing was ever high nothing was ever low- no actual mining ever took place- your payout amount was automatic based on your purchase - if you are not pb related you will not say different. to defeat your line of thinking very easily and for the milionth time- if what you were saying was true-hour to hour and week to week payouts would have varied compared to 99% payout. also there would be payouts higher than 99% as much as there were payouts lower than 99% - this is not debatable - this is correct and never is wrong - this is math--pb is constantly posting over and over again from different accounts- anything said different implies that there would have been payouts over 99% as well.... also pb already said he was getting his payouts from somebody else- that would be like using credit card A to pay credit card B while using credit card B to pay credit card A. he is crashing -HE IS GOING TO JAIL- DO YOU REALIZE HOW HARD BTC WILL CRASH IF HE DOESNT GO TO JAIL.. YOU CANT SAY YOUR SELLING GH YOU DONT REALLY HAVE- back to the math if its not 99% then there would have been over 99% payments as well. every time the dif jumped mid week it was readjusted to 99% imediatly - when he waivered he STOLE- pb your going to jail - its what is best for all of usREFUND OR JAIL U THEIF
Keep doing what you are doing and you will end up with a self fulfilling prophecy, roaming around forums and posting false acusations on a business will destroy its reputation and scare away customers, and this will ultimatelly kill the business, it dies and yes if it died it must be a scam... sheesh
How exactly can anyone kill the business?
If you think they are legit you have nothing to worry about.
Only if they are a ponzi should you be worried because they need new investors to pay the old ones.
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