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Topic: [PBBS] PLAYTIN Bitcoin Bankroll Shares @PLAYTIN (Read 10929 times)

newbie
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December 28, 2014, 04:32:52 PM
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Thanks, I appreciate the tips, maybe I'll check these out in the future. I have resolved my computer issues so my system(s) are stable, and I will never let something like this happen again, it totally could have been prevented if I just followed my own standard procedure for transferring funds. I would recommend you check out the program Revelation. It's a wonderful password manager (as long as you save the password BEFORE sending the coins.. lol).

In my case, a while back I had some truly terrible luck. I had just deposited 0.5 btc in a 'quick registered' playt.in wallet, when my computer suddenly died on me. It just shut down without warning, due to a hardware failure (I later discovered that the heat sink died and it simply over-heated and shut down, at the worst moment ever). I had a pretty scientific method for using playt.in, because I noticed that I could never seem to find contact info for the admins, so I always tried to be careful because I knew if something like this happened I would be in this boat....

Playt.in has a quick registration where you just click a link and you have to save a unique URL in order to log in to your account. Typically, I would save the unique URL to my password database on my hard drive, and then also save a copy on a USB flash drive before sending the coins. But this particular time I got distracted for half a second immediately after sending the BTC, and forgot to click 'save' on my password manager program... I also was using the TOR browser at the time, so there was no history to retrieve my login URL with either... believe me, I searched... bad circumstances.

The Tor Browser Bundle must cache directly to RAM or something, because there was no trace of the TOR brower's history anywhere on my hard drive... I tried using data recovery & forensic software from a live Kali Linux disc, digging through the SQlite db's that tor does cache to disk during the current session, and everything else I could think of. Well, it turns out that the TOR browser does indeed do it's job well, because there was literally nothing to find.  I posted  a thread about it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9191064

I have been trying to contact the admin ever since, as I can prove that I own the wallet that the funds were sent from. There is a link to the blockchain record of the transaction in that thread as well. The funds sat there for a few months, I could not get them, and then one day they were moved. I am assuming at this point I will never get them back. So sure, it is technically all my fault, as there was no fault on the server side ...however, I for one believe that if one is to run a site that deals with currency like playt.in does, then one must be reachable in case  things go wrong, like they did in my case. That is why I say do not trust this site. No communication==You're screwed if something goes wrong (you know that old saying, 's*** happens'...)

I wonder if there is a chance to find the persons behind. I don't have a clue where to look, who to ask or hire and so on. Any idea?

Regarding your problem... i use a freeware named Ditto. It saves everything that was in clipboard. Of course one should set it up so that it doesn't store passwords copied from keepass. But its very helpful. Simply copying a link and it can't be lost anymore. It saved me often from data loss from pc crashs because it saves it instantly itself.

For internet forms like forum posts i use FF-Extension Lazarus. I didn't lose that much from not doing it before but it's annoying in any case.
jr. member
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In my case, a while back I had some truly terrible luck. I had just deposited 0.5 btc in a 'quick registered' playt.in wallet, when my computer suddenly died on me. It just shut down without warning, due to a hardware failure (I later discovered that the heat sink died and it simply over-heated and shut down, at the worst moment ever). I had a pretty scientific method for using playt.in, because I noticed that I could never seem to find contact info for the admins, so I always tried to be careful because I knew if something like this happened I would be in this boat....

Playt.in has a quick registration where you just click a link and you have to save a unique URL in order to log in to your account. Typically, I would save the unique URL to my password database on my hard drive, and then also save a copy on a USB flash drive before sending the coins. But this particular time I got distracted for half a second immediately after sending the BTC, and forgot to click 'save' on my password manager program... I also was using the TOR browser at the time, so there was no history to retrieve my login URL with either... believe me, I searched... bad circumstances.

The Tor Browser Bundle must cache directly to RAM or something, because there was no trace of the TOR brower's history anywhere on my hard drive... I tried using data recovery & forensic software from a live Kali Linux disc, digging through the SQlite db's that tor does cache to disk during the current session, and everything else I could think of. Well, it turns out that the TOR browser does indeed do it's job well, because there was literally nothing to find.  I posted  a thread about it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9191064

I have been trying to contact the admin ever since, as I can prove that I own the wallet that the funds were sent from. There is a link to the blockchain record of the transaction in that thread as well. The funds sat there for a few months, I could not get them, and then one day they were moved. I am assuming at this point I will never get them back. So sure, it is technically all my fault, as there was no fault on the server side ...however, I for one believe that if one is to run a site that deals with currency like playt.in does, then one must be reachable in case  things go wrong, like they did in my case. That is why I say do not trust this site. No communication==You're screwed if something goes wrong (you know that old saying, 's*** happens'...)

I wonder if there is a chance to find the persons behind. I don't have a clue where to look, who to ask or hire and so on. Any idea?

Regarding your problem... i use a freeware named Ditto. It saves everything that was in clipboard. Of course one should set it up so that it doesn't store passwords copied from keepass. But its very helpful. Simply copying a link and it can't be lost anymore. It saved me often from data loss from pc crashs because it saves it instantly itself.

For internet forms like forum posts i use FF-Extension Lazarus. I didn't lose that much from not doing it before but it's annoying in any case.
newbie
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In my case, a while back I had some truly terrible luck. I had just deposited 0.5 btc in a 'quick registered' playt.in wallet, when my computer suddenly died on me. It just shut down without warning, due to a hardware failure (I later discovered that the heat sink died and it simply over-heated and shut down, at the worst moment ever). I had a pretty scientific method for using playt.in, because I noticed that I could never seem to find contact info for the admins, so I always tried to be careful because I knew if something like this happened I would be in this boat....

Playt.in has a quick registration where you just click a link and you have to save a unique URL in order to log in to your account. Typically, I would save the unique URL to my password database on my hard drive, and then also save a copy on a USB flash drive before sending the coins. But this particular time I got distracted for half a second immediately after sending the BTC, and forgot to click 'save' on my password manager program... I also was using the TOR browser at the time, so there was no history to retrieve my login URL with either... believe me, I searched... bad circumstances.

The Tor Browser Bundle must cache directly to RAM or something, because there was no trace of the TOR brower's history anywhere on my hard drive... I tried using data recovery & forensic software from a live Kali Linux disc, digging through the SQlite db's that tor does cache to disk during the current session, and everything else I could think of. Well, it turns out that the TOR browser does indeed do it's job well, because there was literally nothing to find.  I posted  a thread about it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9191064

I have been trying to contact the admin ever since, as I can prove that I own the wallet that the funds were sent from. There is a link to the blockchain record of the transaction in that thread as well. The funds sat there for a few months, I could not get them, and then one day they were moved. I am assuming at this point I will never get them back. So sure, it is technically all my fault, as there was no fault on the server side ...however, I for one believe that if one is to run a site that deals with currency like playt.in does, then one must be reachable in case  things go wrong, like they did in my case. That is why I say do not trust this site. No communication==You're screwed if something goes wrong (you know that old saying, 's*** happens'...)
jr. member
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a scary amount of new users keep bumping playtins topics... What's going on? Did an army of newbies create accounts here to discuss playtin all of a sudden?

Did you read what the new posts are about? It's not like it's some advertising, it's more like anti-advertising.

I still want to find some big shareholders or the founders but somehow i see the possibility that i was the only one investing a big amount. Maybe the other big shareholders never existed and my investment was the only thing they waited for. Damn how could i be that stupid...
hero member
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What happened here? They were offering insane dividends for awhile.
hero member
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a scary amount of new users keep bumping playtins topics... What's going on? Did an army of newbies create accounts here to discuss playtin all of a sudden?
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That sucks man, I feel your pain... Well, at least the community now knows for sure that playt.in is indeed a scam site.

DO NOT TRUST PLAYTIN!!!

Looking at the first 10 posts in this securities section, it looks like 9/10 investments are scams. Am I wrong ? Is anything much beyond Havelock actually panning out without the owners mysteriously disappearing after a year or something ? At this rate it looks like without following a thread here for a year OR pulling out after the first few months, you are pretty much set up for failure. Most so called bitcoin "investments" seem to be some random dude in his basement in a second world country.
jr. member
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They are indeed a scam, if you want to see for yourself look at the link to the funds that I deposited into their wallet, via the blockchain. For about 3 months the 0.5 btc was stuck  sitting in the same wallet I deposited it into, but recently the coins were moved and dispersed into many different wallets. If they were a legit site, then my funds would still be sitting in the same wallet that I deposited them into, because that wallet is supposed to be specific to my account. The fact that the site is still operational is even worse. It would appear to me that they will keep the site active until their domain contract expires in a few months, to scam as many people as possible. So if you have BTC sitting in a playt.in wallet, I would withdraw it immediately before they are gone forever, as has happened to mine.

I don't think that qualifies to say that its a scam because they most probably use a shared wallet like practically every exchange and other service. That means that the bitcoins deposited aren't bound to you anymore once you deposited. The system only stores that you own an amount of bitcoins. Your bitcoins most probably were paid out to another user who wanted to get their coins. Thats normal.

You could call it a scam if you arent able to withdraw your coins. Normally you would get coins from another address, maybe coins another user deposited. Did you try to withdraw them?
newbie
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That sucks man, I feel your pain... Well, at least the community now knows for sure that playt.in is indeed a scam site.

DO NOT TRUST PLAYTIN!!!

In fact im not convinced that they are a scam. There is the chance that a really big player went away and that the profit dropped because of that. At least i think he once mentioned something like a very big player on the site. They calculated profit with some algorithm so that profit spikes were flatted out. Thats why its theoretically possible that a big player went away and the profits dropped linearly from that time.

What i don't like is that they stopped communicating once profits went down. Though that happens with other ventures too. Another thing that looks a bit strange is that the profit drop stopped after i sold my shares. Maybe that was the timeframe they used to flatten out profits over time. The profits now are even lower but it looks like the website is still working.

If they would be a scam then i would think they would stop all things at some point. But it looks like the website is still working fine.

Regardless of how it is. I want to get in contact with the founders and shareholders. I hope i can speak with the founders. If now i want to connect with shareholders.

They are indeed a scam, if you want to see for yourself look at the link to the funds that I deposited into their wallet, via the blockchain. For about 3 months the 0.5 btc was stuck  sitting in the same wallet I deposited it into, but recently the coins were moved and dispersed into many different wallets. If they were a legit site, then my funds would still be sitting in the same wallet that I deposited them into, because that wallet is supposed to be specific to my account. The fact that the site is still operational is even worse. It would appear to me that they will keep the site active until their domain contract expires in a few months, to scam as many people as possible. So if you have BTC sitting in a playt.in wallet, I would withdraw it immediately before they are gone forever, as has happened to mine.
jr. member
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That sucks man, I feel your pain... Well, at least the community now knows for sure that playt.in is indeed a scam site.

DO NOT TRUST PLAYTIN!!!

In fact im not convinced that they are a scam. There is the chance that a really big player went away and that the profit dropped because of that. At least i think he once mentioned something like a very big player on the site. They calculated profit with some algorithm so that profit spikes were flatted out. Thats why its theoretically possible that a big player went away and the profits dropped linearly from that time.

What i don't like is that they stopped communicating once profits went down. Though that happens with other ventures too. Another thing that looks a bit strange is that the profit drop stopped after i sold my shares. Maybe that was the timeframe they used to flatten out profits over time. The profits now are even lower but it looks like the website is still working.

If they would be a scam then i would think they would stop all things at some point. But it looks like the website is still working fine.

Regardless of how it is. I want to get in contact with the founders and shareholders. I hope i can speak with the founders. If now i want to connect with shareholders.
newbie
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That sucks man, I feel your pain... Well, at least the community now knows for sure that playt.in is indeed a scam site.

DO NOT TRUST PLAYTIN!!!
jr. member
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Im not sure what to think about playt.in so anybody here who invested there or even founded the site?

I want to get in contact.

Thanks!

Well, I can tell you that it's probably not a good idea to deposit bitcoin into a wallet that is on a site managed by unknown persons that cannot be reached, or will not act if something goes wrong. I don't think the admin will be coming out of the shadows any time soon. Although until this happened to me, I did have a positive experience with the site. I suppose if you are really careful and meticulous with your password management (as I try to be, but unfortunate things do happen) and are okay with the risk of loosing your coins, then playt.in could work out well for you, as it did for me until I needed to contact the administrator. Be careful, I am not the only one that has had issues with this site. Best luck to you.

Unfortunately i did not have the luck to get out of playtin unharmed. I already took my loss. I know i was stupid enough to invest there with these circumstances. I now wonder if the founders are legit or if it was a scam from the start. Of course i hope to get something back since if they are legit then my coins should still rest in the house.
newbie
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Im not sure what to think about playt.in so anybody here who invested there or even founded the site?

I want to get in contact.

Thanks!

Well, I can tell you that it's probably not a good idea to deposit bitcoin into a wallet that is on a site managed by unknown persons that cannot be reached, or will not act if something goes wrong. I don't think the admin will be coming out of the shadows any time soon. Although until this happened to me, I did have a positive experience with the site. I suppose if you are really careful and meticulous with your password management (as I try to be, but unfortunate things do happen) and are okay with the risk of loosing your coins, then playt.in could work out well for you, as it did for me until I needed to contact the administrator. Be careful, I am not the only one that has had issues with this site. Best luck to you.
jr. member
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Im not sure what to think about playt.in so anybody here who invested there or even founded the site?

I want to get in contact.

Thanks!
newbie
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Another bump because I'm still looking for the admin of http://playt.in -- I need help recovering funds...
newbie
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Just bumping this incase playtin emerges...
newbie
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Alright, well I love the site, it's brilliant, and if the admin pops out of the shadows and helps me out here than I will continue to use it and promote it as well. This is actually a great chance for the admin to restore some faith that has been lost because of his absence. I can prove that the funds were sent from my wallet, I even was able to create an account with the same wallet address that I sent the funds from by signing a message, so I really am asking the admin of playt.in to help a faithful customer out... Thanks for the support and replies, I really appreciate the help.
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Some time ago I had a problem with a DRK deposit. Probably 0.1 worth of BTC... I sent the coins into my account but even after many confirms they never appeared. I know other people had the same problem. It was probably due to a dead daemon or something. I saw people posting in facebook, I posted in bitcointalk. Some weeks after the coins appeared in my balance even though they had been innactive for quite some time when this happened. Sadly there is no direct way to contact them as far as I know. Maybe post here, and also in their facebook page and If they see your message and are kind enough to bother they'll reverse the transaction.

Have you tried resolving this on your own though? You can retrieve the quick registration URL from your browser history.

I tried very hard to retrieve the URL, unfortunatly I just happened be using the Tor Browser during this event, so there was no history to find. What else can I do? I have posted on their facebook, twitter,  etc. I will hack the private keys to that wallet address if I have to, I need those coins back...

While they ceased communication, they are still maintaining their website, so if you put out the message they will see it at some point. If they will however offer support that is something else.
newbie
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Some time ago I had a problem with a DRK deposit. Probably 0.1 worth of BTC... I sent the coins into my account but even after many confirms they never appeared. I know other people had the same problem. It was probably due to a dead daemon or something. I saw people posting in facebook, I posted in bitcointalk. Some weeks after the coins appeared in my balance even though they had been innactive for quite some time when this happened. Sadly there is no direct way to contact them as far as I know. Maybe post here, and also in their facebook page and If they see your message and are kind enough to bother they'll reverse the transaction.

Have you tried resolving this on your own though? You can retrieve the quick registration URL from your browser history.

I tried very hard to retrieve the URL, unfortunatly I just happened be using the Tor Browser during this event, so there was no history to find. What else can I do? I have posted on their facebook, twitter,  etc. I will hack the private keys to that wallet address if I have to, I need those coins back...
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Some time ago I had a problem with a DRK deposit. Probably 0.1 worth of BTC... I sent the coins into my account but even after many confirms they never appeared. I know other people had the same problem. It was probably due to a dead daemon or something. I saw people posting in facebook, I posted in bitcointalk. Some weeks after the coins appeared in my balance even though they had been innactive for quite some time when this happened. Sadly there is no direct way to contact them as far as I know. Maybe post here, and also in their facebook page and If they see your message and are kind enough to bother they'll reverse the transaction.

Have you tried resolving this on your own though? You can retrieve the quick registration URL from your browser history.
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