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August 15, 2022, 02:11:05 AM
#34
my friend bought 5700xt before mining craze he is only using it for gaming while i also have 5700xt use for mining. mine still alive and kicking while his 5700xt broke down after warranty. just sharing.
There can be many reasons for a broken video card. Stupid people buy gaming computers in small cases because they are beautiful and compact, but the graphics card gets very hot there. And if this PC is not cleaned and listened to for several years, then breakdowns are possible. And miners monitor the temperature of the video card, so their equipment works for a long time.
Correct, I used to own a 1660 GTX that I use for gaming and I have those gaming cases that have transparent cover on won't looks shiny and attractive but after I upgraded my GPU to 3070 ti my temp jumps higher after 3 minutes of gaming, I had to open the case and underclock the GPU then the result is so dearing,
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
August 14, 2022, 11:16:59 PM
#33
my friend bought 5700xt before mining craze he is only using it for gaming while i also have 5700xt use for mining. mine still alive and kicking while his 5700xt broke down after warranty. just sharing.
There can be many reasons for a broken video card. Stupid people buy gaming computers in small cases because they are beautiful and compact, but the graphics card gets very hot there. And if this PC is not cleaned and listened to for several years, then breakdowns are possible. And miners monitor the temperature of the video card, so their equipment works for a long time.

I don't think the lack of maintainance of a PC case is the reason why GPUs fail. They generally usually only fail due to a manufactuering defect. The only component that a bad case can have on a GPU is the fans can die quicker because they spin faster and longer. On the bios there are safe guards to shutdown the GPU if the temperature gets too high or start throttling.

legendary
Activity: 1834
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August 12, 2022, 06:38:26 AM
#32
my friend bought 5700xt before mining craze he is only using it for gaming while i also have 5700xt use for mining. mine still alive and kicking while his 5700xt broke down after warranty. just sharing.
There can be many reasons for a broken video card. Stupid people buy gaming computers in small cases because they are beautiful and compact, but the graphics card gets very hot there. And if this PC is not cleaned and listened to for several years, then breakdowns are possible. And miners monitor the temperature of the video card, so their equipment works for a long time.
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Merit: 10
August 12, 2022, 05:10:58 AM
#31
my friend bought 5700xt before mining craze he is only using it for gaming while i also have 5700xt use for mining. mine still alive and kicking while his 5700xt broke down after warranty. just sharing.
jr. member
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Merit: 10
August 11, 2022, 12:43:31 PM
#30
It’s hard to say which GPU is better

1) Which was overvolted and overclocked inside an closed computer case with bad ventilation which was gamed for 1-2 hours a day for 1 year.

2) Under bolted and under clocked open air GPU which was used 24/7/365.

Which would you pick if you were a buyer?


from my experience if you treat cards properly while mining they last and don't break

I build for gamers , miners, (gamer/miner)

My rigs are very trouble free and they use older gpu's I mined with correctly.  I do not get many returns. With year old mining gpus.

Most people that really game hard push cards hard really hard.

And they blow up their cards often.

If you read the EVGA forums a ton of people run 3090's at 450 watts. I run mine at 295-315 watts. I have 18 3090's with a fail rate of 0

gamers kill off their 3090's a lot more often than I do.


lots of threads on dead gear

https://forums.evga.com/Second-3090-FTW-Hybrid-dead-m3552346.aspx

https://forums.evga.com/2-out-of-3-fans-on-my-3090-dead-Worth-doing-an-RMA-just-for-2-dead-fans-m3552188.aspx


https://forums.evga.com/3090-FTW-Hybrid-Death-Dilemma-m3552147.aspx


https://forums.evga.com/RTX-3090-EVGA-FTW3-Starts-to-desktop-and-then-lose-signal-m3550942.aspx
Makes sense, using a 3070 Ti for gaming and my power consumption is 180watt, fixed with MSI afterburner and set to auto after every reboots, with heavy gaming I've not seen near 90°C on memory temp.
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Futiracoin.com
August 11, 2022, 03:50:03 AM
#29
Mining keeps graphic cards alive than gaming, I have a 3070 ti with a high temp issue and I've ordered for thermal pad and paste but I am still able to use this graphic card for gaming because I just use MSI Afterburner to downclock the graphic card and the memory temp is stable at 87°C.   . so you are right gamers don't know anything about graphic cards like miners do.
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May 29, 2022, 03:13:00 PM
#28
Overclocking graphic cards isn't good, gamers do this many times but not miners, this is one of the ways that a GPU can die very fast, we want to run graphic cards in a cooling state than OCing for max performance, this is pro miner's way.
I already know that. I was talking about underclocking even more.
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May 29, 2022, 03:04:52 AM
#27
I rather the card do 107-111 mh and never fuck up then do 121 mh and die in six months.
That's right, spending +10% on power just to get a +3% increase in hashrate usually isn't worth it. Thermal capacity can also be a problem. Let's say I rent a house which has enough tons of A/C to handle 100 video cards. If I cut power usage by 10%, I can fit 110 cards, which actually means 7% more hashrate.
Overclocking graphic cards isn't good, gamers do this many times but not miners, this is one of the ways that a GPU can die very fast, we want to run graphic cards in a cooling state than OCing for max performance, this is pro miner's way.
full member
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May 29, 2022, 01:12:15 AM
#26
I rather the card do 107-111 mh and never fuck up then do 121 mh and die in six months.
That's right, spending +10% on power just to get a +3% increase in hashrate usually isn't worth it. Thermal capacity can also be a problem. Let's say I rent a house which has enough tons of A/C to handle 100 video cards. If I cut power usage by 10%, I can fit 110 cards, which actually means 7% more hashrate.
jr. member
Activity: 45
Merit: 1
May 27, 2022, 10:10:53 AM
#25
Why do gamers try as much as possible to avoid graphic cards that have been used for mining before? Is this even making sense because it looks like tech illiteracy to me, does it makes any difference when mining to gaming because my gaming PC is always built ot upgrade with GPU that I have used for mining and there isn't any issue.
Most casual gamers in my country use $140-$200 video cards, they are 8-18 year olds. I myself play on such a video card, and in my free time I use it in mining.Now a new video card can be bought cheaper than a used one.
Which country are you from @FP91G, I really want to know because I haven't heard where new things are more costly than used things, it doesn't make any sense and if it's true I will like buy from your country, will be more easier if there is a online store based in your country too.
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
May 26, 2022, 11:17:08 PM
#24
It’s hard to say which GPU is better

1) Which was overvolted and overclocked inside an closed computer case with bad ventilation which was gamed for 1-2 hours a day for 1 year.

2) Under bolted and under clocked open air GPU which was used 24/7/365.

Which would you pick if you were a buyer?


Similar to what I was thinking. Miners take better care of their hardware. Sometimes they even mine in a data centre environment,
clean, dry and cool.

Once I understood gpu mining is a marathon and not a sprint I never power cards hard I never power fans hard I never do the higher memory clock settings.

if a 3090 can do 1100 + on smos for its best I find how low I can do for the clock say 850

I rather the card do 107-111 mh and never fuck up then do 121 mh and die in six months.
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Merit: 225
May 26, 2022, 11:05:34 PM
#23
It’s hard to say which GPU is better

1) Which was overvolted and overclocked inside an closed computer case with bad ventilation which was gamed for 1-2 hours a day for 1 year.

2) Under bolted and under clocked open air GPU which was used 24/7/365.

Which would you pick if you were a buyer?


Similar to what I was thinking. Miners take better care of their hardware. Sometimes they even mine in a data centre environment,
clean, dry and cool.
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
May 26, 2022, 11:02:02 PM
#22
It’s hard to say which GPU is better

1) Which was overvolted and overclocked inside an closed computer case with bad ventilation which was gamed for 1-2 hours a day for 1 year.

2) Under bolted and under clocked open air GPU which was used 24/7/365.

Which would you pick if you were a buyer?


from my experience if you treat cards properly while mining they last and don't break

I build for gamers , miners, (gamer/miner)

My rigs are very trouble free and they use older gpu's I mined with correctly.  I do not get many returns. With year old mining gpus.

Most people that really game hard push cards hard really hard.

And they blow up their cards often.

If you read the EVGA forums a ton of people run 3090's at 450 watts. I run mine at 295-315 watts. I have 18 3090's with a fail rate of 0

gamers kill off their 3090's a lot more often than I do.


lots of threads on dead gear

https://forums.evga.com/Second-3090-FTW-Hybrid-dead-m3552346.aspx

https://forums.evga.com/2-out-of-3-fans-on-my-3090-dead-Worth-doing-an-RMA-just-for-2-dead-fans-m3552188.aspx


https://forums.evga.com/3090-FTW-Hybrid-Death-Dilemma-m3552147.aspx


https://forums.evga.com/RTX-3090-EVGA-FTW3-Starts-to-desktop-and-then-lose-signal-m3550942.aspx
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
May 26, 2022, 10:17:17 PM
#21
It’s hard to say which GPU is better

1) Which was overvolted and overclocked inside an closed computer case with bad ventilation which was gamed for 1-2 hours a day for 1 year.

2) Under bolted and under clocked open air GPU which was used 24/7/365.

Which would you pick if you were a buyer?
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
May 26, 2022, 06:09:24 PM
#20
Gaming doesn't redline your memory clock 24/7, the end.

and only mentally ill miners max their clocks.

All my clocks for ram are well under redline.


This is the critical reason my cards do not break.


setting a 3080 non lhr to 100+ core and 800 ram with 235 watts with 60% fans  yields good numbers without stressing the cards.


putting the cards in these rigs

https://minerdude.com/product/x12012022/. saves the cards.

I have 100% rate on my rtx  3000 cards.

Not a single one has failed since fall of 2020

Repeat not a single one has failed.

If a gamer wants a card and does not buy from me (when and if I sell) he is stupid. End of story.

jr. member
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Merit: 1
May 26, 2022, 11:51:08 AM
#19
Gaming doesn't redline your memory clock 24/7, the end.
legendary
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May 26, 2022, 10:47:11 AM
#18
Why do gamers try as much as possible to avoid graphic cards that have been used for mining before? Is this even making sense because it looks like tech illiteracy to me, does it makes any difference when mining to gaming because my gaming PC is always built ot upgrade with GPU that I have used for mining and there isn't any issue.

Because PC gaming is serous business. Have you ever played a competitive PC game before? I used to play dota/dota2 a lot. I heard the most vicious curses in those games which I haven't heard anywhere before. If you are a retarded nub your teammates will kill and fuck your mother countless times till your grandfather is dead and then blacklist your ass. PC gaming is that serious, so is buying GPU's. You can't imagine how much curse ETH miners have been getting because PC gamers couldn't find fine GPU's on the shelves.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1136
May 26, 2022, 10:22:21 AM
#17
First of all if the prices of the gpu were lowered it would be good for all gamers and miners, the gpu that have been used for mining, squeezed to the maximum of their capacity have a shorter life cycle than a gpu with normal wear, i just think that's why they are avoided

yeah a complete falsehood. I know my 150-200 cards in hand are perfectly fine for gamers to buy (if I were to sell them)

My cards are properly treated
In America, sellers write that the video card was used or not used in mining?
In Russia, some sellers write this, but some of these sellers constantly sell video cards Smiley
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
May 26, 2022, 10:13:27 AM
#16
First of all if the prices of the gpu were lowered it would be good for all gamers and miners, the gpu that have been used for mining, squeezed to the maximum of their capacity have a shorter life cycle than a gpu with normal wear, i just think that's why they are avoided

yeah a complete falsehood. I know my 150-200 cards in hand are perfectly fine for gamers to buy (if I were to sell them)

My cards are properly treated
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1136
May 26, 2022, 10:10:23 AM
#15
Why do gamers try as much as possible to avoid graphic cards that have been used for mining before? Is this even making sense because it looks like tech illiteracy to me, does it makes any difference when mining to gaming because my gaming PC is always built ot upgrade with GPU that I have used for mining and there isn't any issue.
Most casual gamers in my country use $140-$200 video cards, they are 8-18 year olds. I myself play on such a video card, and in my free time I use it in mining.Now a new video card can be bought cheaper than a used one.
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