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legendary
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Satoshi is rolling in his grave. #bitcoin
March 30, 2014, 10:22:55 PM
#50
I don't get it.
Perfect example is the 336 mhs usb one.  It is not worth more than $2 under the most ideal circumstance (free power.)
Yet they sell for anywhere from 5-15 and actually move. 
Wtf  Huh 
Are the parts valuable or something? 
At the rate these used mienrs move, they are going to rip more people off than mt gox  Shocked (ok exaggeration.)

 

definetly not worth it with block eruptors anymore






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hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 503
March 28, 2014, 04:55:31 PM
#49
I am a noob to mining and I am have been reading.  I first started reading about the block eruptors and thought it would have been a cool setup but then thought twice about it when I read somewhere on here if you are not mining upwards of 200 Gh/s it isnt worth it.  Then I fgured the cost of making a rig that would put out that kind of power with eruptors and the cost isnt worth it.  So I found the Antminer S1 Dual Blade.  I see them around $700.  I was wondering for anyones opinion on this machine actually making its money back with say litecoin and a rate of .08 Kw/h electricity costs.  I was trying to use one of the calculators I found but I wasnt sure I was entering the correct info.  Thanks in advance.

You can't mine Litecoin with an antminer S1. Litecoin is a scrypt coin and the S1 can only mine SHA-256 coins. As for making your money back mining Bitcoin, not likely.

newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
March 28, 2014, 03:34:23 PM
#48
I am a noob to mining and I am have been reading.  I first started reading about the block eruptors and thought it would have been a cool setup but then thought twice about it when I read somewhere on here if you are not mining upwards of 200 Gh/s it isnt worth it.  Then I fgured the cost of making a rig that would put out that kind of power with eruptors and the cost isnt worth it.  So I found the Antminer S1 Dual Blade.  I see them around $700.  I was wondering for anyones opinion on this machine actually making its money back with say litecoin and a rate of .08 Kw/h electricity costs.  I was trying to use one of the calculators I found but I wasnt sure I was entering the correct info.  Thanks in advance.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
March 28, 2014, 03:16:40 AM
#47
The idea is not the same for everyone, think it is worth it will start up!
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
March 27, 2014, 09:54:26 PM
#46
Do you guys think there will be uses for the Old generation of ASICs in the future? Act as nodes for processing transactions?
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 503
March 27, 2014, 06:23:30 PM
#45
Well most miners could be considered used. I'm not sure why people buy from ebay while they are cheaper in China. Yes it takes longer but  is +50% price justifying few days of delay? Maybe if the seller is from your country and in the end you don't pay VAT...

For some people it is a lot more convenient to pay with a credit card than it is to pay with Bitcoin.  For some, buying coin isn't all that easy. It's also a way for people to buy equipment without having the money up front.  It's not a smart way to do it, but thats how a lot of people use credit cards.  Buy now, pay for it later.
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
March 27, 2014, 11:34:29 AM
#44
Well most miners could be considered used. I'm not sure why people buy from ebay while they are cheaper in China. Yes it takes longer but  is +50% price justifying few days of delay? Maybe if the seller is from your country and in the end you don't pay VAT...
newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
March 27, 2014, 11:25:06 AM
#43
if you need a rise in btc prices to roi your miner you shoulnd`t buy it. just buy some btc and hold it. buying a miner only makes sence if it wil produce more btc then you can currently buy with that money.

+1

although if you don't plan on buying with fiat but the price drops suddenly like it is now and you decide to invest you could calculate your ROI starting from your initial fiat investment. I know, it's just mental acrobatics but still...I don't like to buy low but I like to invest low.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 26, 2014, 10:28:01 AM
#42
People want to try first.. I personally wanted to do a POC on bitcoin mining before investing couple of thousands, so i bought "block eruptor asic miner cube", used it for 1 week and sold it for 80% of my buying price.. Yeah so that's the premium i paid to test the concept.

hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 503
March 26, 2014, 03:02:18 AM
#41
lol its all noobies that are being introduced to mining. Some People I know buy them for fun, though just 1-2 for entertainment
entertainment purposes = wow, look every month i'm loosing money to energy cost and I overpaid for the amount of coins I am getting? wtf

Not everyone pays for power though.  Who knows, maybe they just like getting stoned to trip out on the flashing light, LOL!

Nothing wrong with people willing to overspend on outdated mining hardware, it helps to keep the ROI possible.
full member
Activity: 231
Merit: 100
March 25, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
#40
if you need a rise in btc prices to roi your miner you shoulnd`t buy it. just buy some btc and hold it. buying a miner only makes sence if it wil produce more btc then you can currently buy with that money.

+1
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
March 25, 2014, 09:06:39 AM
#39
if you need a rise in btc prices to roi your miner you shoulnd`t buy it. just buy some btc and hold it. buying a miner only makes sence if it wil produce more btc then you can currently buy with that money.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
March 25, 2014, 06:17:10 AM
#38
Still many people think that bitcoin rice will reach $10000 with in two years.They just want to get in to mining. But they don't understand the current situation.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
Small Red and Bad
March 24, 2014, 08:25:03 PM
#37
If you're mining Bitcoin with USB ASICs, then you're doing it wrong. There are other SHA256 coins which offer a faster RoI. Mining newly launched coins for speculative purposes also speeds up getting your RoI by at least a factor of 5 (based on my experience, not generalized facts).

I like to have one or two of my old USBs solo mining. I know I know, the odds are ridiculous but just for fun Smiley
Good job. Those USB miners are also great gifts that introduce people into mining Smiley I gave some of my units to friends to let them experiment and decide if they want to invest.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
March 24, 2014, 08:09:12 PM
#36
for the people selling on ebay you have to add the fees.

In auction prices are also often insane, and those are set by buyers who dont care about the sellers fees.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251
March 24, 2014, 06:45:08 PM
#35
for the people selling on ebay you have to add the fees.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
March 24, 2014, 06:18:59 PM
#34
People who pay those prices are often new miners who dont understand the difficulty.
And the fact that most calculators only show current revenue. Or even worse, just multiply current value into the future. Asuming a year from now a miner makes the same amount of btc per month as it does now.

The only decent calculator i found until now is on the second page of google. The rest of the calculators are garbage or plain misleading. But most people use the ones on top of googles listings and are paying prices based on false information.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
March 24, 2014, 05:53:38 PM
#33
met  a few miners at the local bitcoin meetup

there are miners who learned about bitcoin and want to contribute, or want to try it out for fun, so they spend a couple hundred to check it out

bitcoin is a movement and it engrosses people who learn about it.

money is a side effect for many people.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
March 22, 2014, 11:17:30 AM
#32

The residual value from selling the BEs on Ebay is by far the most significant factor in their current value - so sell 'em while they're still worth something.


They may have some collector's value as well.





When bitcoin is over , you mean?
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1001
Let the chips fall where they may.
March 22, 2014, 10:23:55 AM
#31

The residual value from selling the BEs on Ebay is by far the most significant factor in their current value - so sell 'em while they're still worth something.


They may have some collector's value as well.
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