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Topic: People lending no collateral? (Read 4625 times)

hero member
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AKA The Rubber Monkey
April 28, 2015, 05:23:55 PM
#45
It's just like any other business. Some people are skilled at picking and choosing who to loan to. Those people can make good money. Other people aren't so good at choosing the right lending opportunities. They either barely scrape by or they go broke.

The thing is that you cant know if someone is going to pay back even if they are legit and they are willing to pay back at first they may encounter some sort of problem and they wont be able to pay back, what are you going to do then, since you didnt want a collateral

That's true everywhere. Not just in the Bitcoin world. I have a number of credit cards in my wallet and every time that I use one, I'm getting a loan without collateral. Sure, I could walk away. But overall, the credit card company charges high enough interest to compensate for those who do walk away. It's the same with Bitcoin. The risk is much higher, but the potential rewards are higher too. It's a balancing act.

Well i guess but still there is no point in not looking for a collateral, it just makes the deal 100% safe

Actually, I think some lenders are doing it because of competitive pressures. Its not just no collateral loans that are offered either. Now I'm seeing 0% interest too.
hero member
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April 28, 2015, 12:39:10 AM
#44
No Collateral loan are given to user who are trusted, reputed and trust is a collateral for such loan, giving a no collateral loan to newbie or low profile member is risky, it is always suggested to use collateral so if user didn't pay you can cover your loss,you can give loans without collateral if you can afford money to loose

There is a really small quantity of people that are really trusted and there are others that are trusted because they have done previous loans wich doesnt mean anything, just because they have given or taken loans doesnt mean they are trusted
legendary
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April 28, 2015, 12:35:55 AM
#43
No Collateral loan are given to user who are trusted, reputed and trust is a collateral for such loan, giving a no collateral loan to newbie or low profile member is risky, it is always suggested to use collateral so if user didn't pay you can cover your loss,you can give loans without collateral if you can afford money to loose
hero member
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April 28, 2015, 12:31:50 AM
#42
It's just like any other business. Some people are skilled at picking and choosing who to loan to. Those people can make good money. Other people aren't so good at choosing the right lending opportunities. They either barely scrape by or they go broke.

The thing is that you cant know if someone is going to pay back even if they are legit and they are willing to pay back at first they may encounter some sort of problem and they wont be able to pay back, what are you going to do then, since you didnt want a collateral

That's true everywhere. Not just in the Bitcoin world. I have a number of credit cards in my wallet and every time that I use one, I'm getting a loan without collateral. Sure, I could walk away. But overall, the credit card company charges high enough interest to compensate for those who do walk away. It's the same with Bitcoin. The risk is much higher, but the potential rewards are higher too. It's a balancing act.

Well i guess but still there is no point in not looking for a collateral, it just makes the deal 100% safe
hero member
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AKA The Rubber Monkey
April 27, 2015, 03:33:09 PM
#41
It's just like any other business. Some people are skilled at picking and choosing who to loan to. Those people can make good money. Other people aren't so good at choosing the right lending opportunities. They either barely scrape by or they go broke.

The thing is that you cant know if someone is going to pay back even if they are legit and they are willing to pay back at first they may encounter some sort of problem and they wont be able to pay back, what are you going to do then, since you didnt want a collateral

That's true everywhere. Not just in the Bitcoin world. I have a number of credit cards in my wallet and every time that I use one, I'm getting a loan without collateral. Sure, I could walk away. But overall, the credit card company charges high enough interest to compensate for those who do walk away. It's the same with Bitcoin. The risk is much higher, but the potential rewards are higher too. It's a balancing act.
hero member
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April 25, 2015, 04:06:36 PM
#40
It's just like any other business. Some people are skilled at picking and choosing who to loan to. Those people can make good money. Other people aren't so good at choosing the right lending opportunities. They either barely scrape by or they go broke.

The thing is that you cant know if someone is going to pay back even if they are legit and they are willing to pay back at first they may encounter some sort of problem and they wont be able to pay back, what are you going to do then, since you didnt want a collateral
hero member
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AKA The Rubber Monkey
April 25, 2015, 09:33:13 AM
#39
It's just like any other business. Some people are skilled at picking and choosing who to loan to. Those people can make good money. Other people aren't so good at choosing the right lending opportunities. They either barely scrape by or they go broke.
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DaDice! Next Generation Dice Game
April 13, 2015, 05:56:42 AM
#38
its not that easy to get a loan. usually they extensively analyze ur post history to know who they are dealing with.
legendary
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April 13, 2015, 01:47:49 AM
#37
I have no idea why anyone would do this, but I guess people just have faith in humanity.
Personally I have never seen anyone take this risk.

I currently have loans total over 5BTC without any collateral on my lending thread (check my personal message).
hero member
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April 12, 2015, 06:53:31 AM
#36
I have no idea why anyone would do this, but I guess people just have faith in humanity.
Personally I have never seen anyone take this risk.
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 09:19:18 AM
#35
Loaning without collateral is a big mistake. I understand a loan between friends but don't ever consider loaning a gambler. You will hear 1000 excuses before you ever see your coin back. Loaning is -EV.

Not if you loan carefully Wink

Loaning carefully would be loaning with collateral, if you loan with collateral you are pretty much 100% safe but without it? Even if you are extremely careful, just 1 bad loan and it fucks up everything
You can also loan carefully...you just gotta check the user his trust his posts etc and if you see something suspective then you deny them the loan.

What if they bought the account? Maybe they bought it some time ago with positive trust and BOOM you get fucked, thats why always collateral is the way to go.
You can see if that trust is recent or not...also you can see difference in person's writing style before and after buy. You always gotta research before lending.
sr. member
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April 08, 2015, 09:12:07 AM
#34
I want to borrow 5 btc, will pay back 6 btc in 10 days.

Pm me for details.
hero member
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April 08, 2015, 09:10:41 AM
#33
Loaning without collateral is a big mistake. I understand a loan between friends but don't ever consider loaning a gambler. You will hear 1000 excuses before you ever see your coin back. Loaning is -EV.

Not if you loan carefully Wink

Loaning carefully would be loaning with collateral, if you loan with collateral you are pretty much 100% safe but without it? Even if you are extremely careful, just 1 bad loan and it fucks up everything
You can also loan carefully...you just gotta check the user his trust his posts etc and if you see something suspective then you deny them the loan.

What if they bought the account? Maybe they bought it some time ago with positive trust and BOOM you get fucked, thats why always collateral is the way to go.
legendary
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April 08, 2015, 08:07:53 AM
#32
Loaning without collateral is a big mistake. I understand a loan between friends but don't ever consider loaning a gambler. You will hear 1000 excuses before you ever see your coin back. Loaning is -EV.

Not if you loan carefully Wink

Loaning carefully would be loaning with collateral, if you loan with collateral you are pretty much 100% safe but without it? Even if you are extremely careful, just 1 bad loan and it fucks up everything
You can also loan carefully...you just gotta check the user his trust his posts etc and if you see something suspective then you deny them the loan.
legendary
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April 06, 2015, 08:29:14 PM
#31
Why is some people doing that? I mean what do they win by lending bitcoins to anyone without a collateral, are they just trying to farm trust? Even if they are its still pretty stupid since you could get trust lending with collateral aswell, am i missing something?

Myself, I've taken out a couple loans in which I did not provide collateral. For one, the loan size were relatively small. Two, I didn't have any collateral. If a lender feels the reward through interest of the loan outweighs the risk of defaulting on the loan, then a lender will fulfill the request in hopes of making a decent return. Others take advantage and either farm trust, or flat out default on the loan.
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Big Bit Mine
March 28, 2015, 02:29:49 PM
#30
I don't mind lending with no collateral.  It's a individuals choice.
hero member
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March 28, 2015, 02:22:01 PM
#29
Not if you give out 100s of loans to the correct people (those with background/trust on the forums).

People are selling forum accounts - so trust on the forums doesn't  mean much. Any reliable user will be able to provide a collateral.

Yes thats pretty much the problem with trust unless its someone really trusted and famous like dooglus, i would trust dooglus of course but normal users can just buy accounts or trust
legendary
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March 28, 2015, 01:50:08 PM
#28
Not if you give out 100s of loans to the correct people (those with background/trust on the forums).

People are selling forum accounts - so trust on the forums doesn't  mean much. Any reliable user will be able to provide a collateral.
member
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March 28, 2015, 01:04:08 PM
#27
Lending without a collateral is very similar to gambling.

This is true @raderhamart and let me say that the chances on gambling it is quite better!I am already burn 2 on 2 here...But i will keep try to lend without collateral but i will be a lot more caution this time about the History and trustworthy of the member.

Kind Regards,
BTC-Bank.
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★YoBit.Net★ 100+ Coins Exchange & Dice
March 28, 2015, 12:30:18 PM
#26
Lending without a collateral is very similar to gambling.
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