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Quote from: paxmao on November 20, 2021, 09:27:00 PM

https://www.economist.com/britain/2021/11/18/britains-inequalities-are-spelt-out-in-its-surnames

A recent research presented in the article above indicates that

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most people don't move

, geographically speaking. It is curious how most people are (randomly?) born somewhere and they tend to look for the opportunities to make a living on that place, do not go too far or think that they actually enjoy the freedom of deciding to go to anywhere else in the world unless they have serious pressing motivation (hunger, crime,...).

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).

We cannot blame them because all they wanted is assurance and safeties of their investments.

It is like a playing and living inside your comfort zone .

and like a child that only going inside their House and their parent is very protective .

But once they find out how profitable this market is, surely they will move over and invest what they can afford .

and also defend to what kind of person or what kind of family brought them up, if they are being raised as fighter and tough character .

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Quote from: TelolettOm on November 24, 2021, 07:22:40 PM

Quote from: molsewid on November 24, 2021, 05:23:33 AM

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Yes, maybe some doubts are still surrounding, and probabilities of environment influences still give reasons why people are moving or not moving. Additionally, our mindset will be also influencing how we decide to move or not.
btw, there maybe positive and negative sides of this condition, but if we really want to make something new, out of comfort zone, and we are ready with the risks, including we are ready to learn more, we are better for moving.

Before we move to something new to us its really better to be prepared on certain circumstances since if we just take a risk without even plan or have back up let we say funds then we will end up getting broke if we fail to meet our expectation for adopting the risk to improve. But any of this for sure in the long run for taking the risk we will get familiarized on what things we need to do but expect this will cause a lot for us that's why as I said we need to prepare first before we step out on our comfort zones.

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Quote from: molsewid on November 24, 2021, 05:23:33 AM

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Yes, maybe some doubts are still surrounding, and probabilities of environment influences still give reasons why people are moving or not moving. Additionally, our mindset will be also influencing how we decide to move or not.
btw, there maybe positive and negative sides of this condition, but if we really want to make something new, out of comfort zone, and we are ready with the risks, including we are ready to learn more, we are better for moving.

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Quote from: Fatunad on November 24, 2021, 05:57:30 PM

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Quote from: iv4n on November 24, 2021, 03:23:17 PM

Quote from: paxmao on November 20, 2021, 09:27:00 PM

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Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).

It's some kind of security, false security... the problem many of us face! We have enough for basics and something extra maybe and that gives us enough comfort, risking that for something more can lead to losing what we have now! So we stay where we are... at least most of us who found some peace! But some people are forced to move for all sorts of reasons, and I believe that stats will show that people who are forced can lose a lot more by staying than by moving, so for them moving is the only positive option!

I am thinking about moving sometimes, but it's OK for me where I am now... yes, it could be better, but it's OK now. I guess every place has positive and negative things, at least I learned how to deal with negativities here and stay positive... learning that on some other place sounds like a big hussle! But in a case that something (someone) forces me I will make that decision!

We all have our personal reasons why we chose not to move from where we are right now. It's either we are already contented of what we have right now, or we are just afraid that we will only fail and definitely lose if we tend to move into other sorts of things.

For me, as long as there are enough good reasons to move then I will finally do it. But for now, I'm still doing great of where i am right now so possibly I will stay here as much as I want.

Most cases it would really be on family reasons on where they couldnt afford on leaving their loved ones but on some circumstances on where people do really forces out to do so because the need of money or with needs which it cant really be avoided for you not to consider on going into other countries on seeking off for some job.
We do have our own personal reasons but most of the time we would really be tending to make things improve specially in our living and it would really be needing
to sacrifice but of course there would be some factors to consider.

The reason why not many people decide to move to find income in other regions or other countries, the most powerful reason is family. I also got
a pretty good offer to work in another country with a large income, I decided to turn it down. Because I'm the type of person who can't stay away
from family, for me money is not the main thing in this life. I prefer family over anything, after all, my principle in life is that money can be
found anywhere. Although maybe the difficulty level is greater if it makes money in my area. But as long as I want to work hard, I believe I can
become rich, without leaving my family.

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Quote from: Finestream on November 24, 2021, 05:22:07 PM

Quote from: iv4n on November 24, 2021, 03:23:17 PM

Quote from: paxmao on November 20, 2021, 09:27:00 PM

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Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).

It's some kind of security, false security... the problem many of us face! We have enough for basics and something extra maybe and that gives us enough comfort, risking that for something more can lead to losing what we have now! So we stay where we are... at least most of us who found some peace! But some people are forced to move for all sorts of reasons, and I believe that stats will show that people who are forced can lose a lot more by staying than by moving, so for them moving is the only positive option!

I am thinking about moving sometimes, but it's OK for me where I am now... yes, it could be better, but it's OK now. I guess every place has positive and negative things, at least I learned how to deal with negativities here and stay positive... learning that on some other place sounds like a big hussle! But in a case that something (someone) forces me I will make that decision!

We all have our personal reasons why we chose not to move from where we are right now. It's either we are already contented of what we have right now, or we are just afraid that we will only fail and definitely lose if we tend to move into other sorts of things.

For me, as long as there are enough good reasons to move then I will finally do it. But for now, I'm still doing great of where i am right now so possibly I will stay here as much as I want.

Most cases it would really be on family reasons on where they couldnt afford on leaving their loved ones but on some circumstances on where people do really forces out to do so because the need of money or with needs which it cant really be avoided for you not to consider on going into other countries on seeking off for some job.
We do have our own personal reasons but most of the time we would really be tending to make things improve specially in our living and it would really be needing
to sacrifice but of course there would be some factors to consider.

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Quote from: iv4n on November 24, 2021, 03:23:17 PM

Quote from: paxmao on November 20, 2021, 09:27:00 PM

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Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).

It's some kind of security, false security... the problem many of us face! We have enough for basics and something extra maybe and that gives us enough comfort, risking that for something more can lead to losing what we have now! So we stay where we are... at least most of us who found some peace! But some people are forced to move for all sorts of reasons, and I believe that stats will show that people who are forced can lose a lot more by staying than by moving, so for them moving is the only positive option!

I am thinking about moving sometimes, but it's OK for me where I am now... yes, it could be better, but it's OK now. I guess every place has positive and negative things, at least I learned how to deal with negativities here and stay positive... learning that on some other place sounds like a big hussle! But in a case that something (someone) forces me I will make that decision!

We all have our personal reasons why we chose not to move from where we are right now. It's either we are already contented of what we have right now, or we are just afraid that we will only fail and definitely lose if we tend to move into other sorts of things.

For me, as long as there are enough good reasons to move then I will finally do it. But for now, I'm still doing great of where i am right now so possibly I will stay here as much as I want.

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What the article stated kinda spoke to me on different levels. I only ever moved once from where I grew, and it's not even a different city at all! Most opportunities that ever existed in front of me just came from neighboring cities that are only 10-30 minutes ride away from my home, hence I never felt the need to relocate somewhere far away from what I used to. Also, my expenses are comparatively small compared to what I earn from the job, and moving from this place to another place with less living expenses but different environment I'm not completely used to isn't something I would do. I wouldn't trade comfort for just a few extra dollars of savings every month.

But from other people's perspective, I understand why the need for jumping from place to place is there. Perhaps they don't settle and 'blend' in with their locality, or that some other place presents an opportunity they could never get from the place they are currently on.

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Quote from: paxmao on November 20, 2021, 09:27:00 PM

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Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).

It's some kind of security, false security... the problem many of us face! We have enough for basics and something extra maybe and that gives us enough comfort, risking that for something more can lead to losing what we have now! So we stay where we are... at least most of us who found some peace! But some people are forced to move for all sorts of reasons, and I believe that stats will show that people who are forced can lose a lot more by staying than by moving, so for them moving is the only positive option!

I am thinking about moving sometimes, but it's OK for me where I am now... yes, it could be better, but it's OK now. I guess every place has positive and negative things, at least I learned how to deal with negativities here and stay positive... learning that on some other place sounds like a big hussle! But in a case that something (someone) forces me I will make that decision!

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Quote from: Ucy on November 23, 2021, 06:05:17 AM

I typically prefer to move like nomads until I find somewhere fairly stable and right to settle in. It's hard to find such place in the world hence the need to keep moving/searching.
That's basically how I began to use Bitcoin in cyberspace. I saw shiny opportunities but the risk discouraged me.

Just searching for the right environment... One of the worst thing to do is to move for money

How do you pay for moving around like that? I mean if I wanted to go to vacation let alone stay there, I would have to pay maybe 6 month salary for living in Europe for just 1 month. Maybe you have some income or some amount of money from before, or you have a skill that allows you to move around like that, I don't know who you are so I can't make any calculations with the data I have.

However, I know myself and I know that there is no possible way for me to move to a "better" nation, it just doesn't work like that, since my work is not something I need to be even there to do that means I can freelance it and that makes it cheaper and can't afford to live in Europe or anywhere like that. Since, life is getting more expensive even where I live which is normally known as a cheap place, I may end up with living in a European nation one day in the future not because I got richer but I would be poor even here so might as well be poor somewhere else but moving around is still quite costly and I can't afford to do that so far.

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on November 22, 2021, 01:46:21 PM

If we are to add some spice to the topic of the thread, humans hardly move. Basing our thoughts on the fact that, we change location for a livelihood somewhere might suggest some form of movement but then, if we tend to look at where we call home and where we rest even after we are gone (dead), you would understand that, we don't move. Like the research on names, it's always closer to base, to origin and so do every individual or most at the very least.

So long as, your movement isn't permanent, you still have a course to look towards your place of origin for a home, how then can you completely claim to have moved. You never move, when a part of you is staying!

If we take a look at history we are going to see the main reason why people move from one geographical area to another has to do most of the time with some kind of crisis happening on their homeland, like a war, famine, lack of economic opportunities and other similar reasons, so extrapolating like what the OP paxmao is doing in economic terms this means that people will not change their monetary habits unless some kind of crisis hits them, and at least in my experience this is the only way I have seen consistent changes on the economic habits of people.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on November 23, 2021, 07:22:17 PM

Sometimes, people are going to move, but the condition may not let it be. Sometimes, it is surely going to move, but in fact, they can't. and they are still here on monetary system.
And we cannot ignore or avoid this.
We really know how monetary system is being here around us in the world, related to not only about the rules and also financial system and regulation, but widely more than it.

Maybe they are getting trapped in the regulations and financial system that makes them can not move because we know much reason from people who tell us that they are hard to move because of the situation around them. But if they have a chance to and are forced to move, they will try to move, no matter the consequences, because that is our nature. When someone is forced because of situational around them or something that they must do, they will start to move without thinking much about what will happen to them.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on November 23, 2021, 07:22:17 PM

Sometimes, people are going to move, but the condition may not let it be. Sometimes, it is surely going to move, but in fact, they can't. and they are still here on monetary system.
And we cannot ignore or avoid this.
We really know how monetary system is being here around us in the world, related to not only about the rules and also financial system and regulation, but widely more than it.

Some people are moving out of their comfort zone for a quite short time and yes it is because of the monetary system, looking or searching for a better opportunities however if we were going to consider the availability of the opportunities to their place I think people will tend not to move really. As I've observed some of the people who used to moves for a quite long time only wanted to earn and save enough for their retirement fund so that they can go back to place where they came from because like what we used to heard "there's no place like home".

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Sometimes, people are going to move, but the condition may not let it be. Sometimes, it is surely going to move, but in fact, they can't. and they are still here on monetary system.
And we cannot ignore or avoid this.
We really know how monetary system is being here around us in the world, related to not only about the rules and also financial system and regulation, but widely more than it.

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Some people choose to stay or either find a way to move to a different country in order to improve their lives but some do like to stay unless it's not comfortable enough then they really have to move. So, if a person is comfortable enough to of using fiat than crypto then it's their choice but I think they might have missed the opportunity already or they just don't want to.

Well, crypto is not for everyone if they like to live with their fiat hidden in a bank then it's their personal choice maybe they were born rich already that's why they are comfortable with using fiat but for those someone who struggle for everyday life in order to prepare a good meal each day, they choose to gamble or risk using crypto but with the right research their investment will soon give them a freedom of using their own money without someone controlling it.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on November 23, 2021, 11:13:50 AM

I know this isn't exactly the topic at hand here but I seem to move every 2-3 years and it's the worst thing ever lol. I hate living in a big city that requires you to have to move so often for so many different things. Anyways, I have moved from my home state of Illinois to Florida (americas weirdest state) which was quite far away. I never understood people who were afraid to try and move and change things up. I did end up moving back to my home state, but it was more for family health reasons (well and Florida is filled with crazies).

The only reason that people are not moving and are not making changes because they always think that big opportunities are already in their homeland. When in fact there are other great opportunities that we can found and will create more positive changes in our lives once we decide to move and create changes. Although not in general, but for some people who always stick to what they call their only home, maybe they have their own reasons like health or maybe family matters wherein their presence should always be around.

For people who do reside on thirdworld countries then their main aim is to get outside of their country and find a decent job and considering that currency value is much more worth then they would really
be seeing for these situations to be considerable and making their lives to be more better compared if they would really just go and work which they dont see any possible achievements or improvements in life which i couldnt really blame them off on ending up on having that decision even though its risky but they are much pretty aware of that.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on November 23, 2021, 11:13:50 AM

I know this isn't exactly the topic at hand here but I seem to move every 2-3 years and it's the worst thing ever lol. I hate living in a big city that requires you to have to move so often for so many different things. Anyways, I have moved from my home state of Illinois to Florida (americas weirdest state) which was quite far away. I never understood people who were afraid to try and move and change things up. I did end up moving back to my home state, but it was more for family health reasons (well and Florida is filled with crazies).

The only reason that people are not moving and are not making changes because they always think that big opportunities are already in their homeland. When in fact there are other great opportunities that we can found and will create more positive changes in our lives once we decide to move and create changes. Although not in general, but for some people who always stick to what they call their only home, maybe they have their own reasons like health or maybe family matters wherein their presence should always be around.

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I know this isn't exactly the topic at hand here but I seem to move every 2-3 years and it's the worst thing ever lol. I hate living in a big city that requires you to have to move so often for so many different things. Anyways, I have moved from my home state of Illinois to Florida (americas weirdest state) which was quite far away. I never understood people who were afraid to try and move and change things up. I did end up moving back to my home state, but it was more for family health reasons (well and Florida is filled with crazies).

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Quote from: josephdd1 on November 23, 2021, 12:05:22 AM

Some people don't want to improve. They prefer calm life without challenging changes in their life. They don't see opportunities, they consider it to be fraud. Many people in my county have a very poor financial awareness. Stock market and forex are not developed here at all. The majority of people are not aware that it is possible to earn passive income, they don't want to learn.

More precisely, many people need improvements in a quiet and stable space, rather than demanding immediate challenges to complete transformation, the transition and collision of fields makes them worry about many issues such as age, ability to learn as well as employment opportunities, keeping the same old areas as well as core values and less volatility makes them more secure about the future and easier to adapt after innovations. This perception is similar to investing in the stock and crypto markets, forced to learn a lot but in return are vague opportunities, afraid to move not because they are lazy, afraid to move just because they do not see the future

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I typically prefer to move like nomads until I find somewhere fairly stable and right to settle in. It's hard to find such place in the world hence the need to keep moving/searching.
That's basically how I began to use Bitcoin in cyberspace. I saw shiny opportunities but the risk discouraged me.

Just searching for the right environment... One of the worst thing to do is to move for money

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Quote from: peter0425 on November 23, 2021, 12:05:34 AM

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There is no Opportunity in those who want only to take a bite in the food on their plate and don't wanna explore in some place where
offering best foods.

Often the reason is not that they want to grab the best bite not doing anything, but that they don't even think about the best bite. In my country for decades, people have been taught not to stick their heads out and be content with what they have, often the smallest. If you suddenly wanted more, then you concedered to be not happy with life and not having respect for others, because you should not be different in anything. Therefore, a huge number of people simply do not think that it is possible to somehow change the conditions of their life, and many of those who do think are afraid to bring it to life.

People tend not to move because they are fearful and are afraid of taking risk. So they continue living their life on what they are used to have and not coming out from their comfort zone. And i think having this kind of attitude will no longer lead to a progressive life.

However, their attitude towards their monetary terms may just only be the same. They are afraid to take risk into some new investments because they feel like they will only lose, so they prefer to keep their money without any profits being yield. People like this will never really reach huge achievements in life as they tend to be more satisfied on the things they only see around.

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