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legendary
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July 25, 2016, 05:58:10 PM
#34



Anyone want to sell me 0.05 BTC of this coin.


hero member
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July 18, 2016, 04:14:28 AM
#33
how can  i mine perma ? İs it only possible in testnet now ?
newbie
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July 17, 2016, 02:13:03 PM
#32
https://github.com/ethereumclassic/README/issues/5

I have changed my mind about the likelihood of a "proper" ethereum classic fork. I will be spending my time on this, and revisiting the Perma option if there is too much chaos
newbie
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July 11, 2016, 08:32:03 AM
#31
I've listened to a lot of feedback, and the number one concern is indeed the instamine feeling given by the block reward schedule.

I still think my initial arguments win out over any sort of claims to it not being "fair" (I like things that aren't fair, they call me Mr Unfair Man), however, there is a new argument in favor of slowing the distribution down (and possibly kicking off the chain on a slightly different condition):

The ETH hard fork is a total clusterfuck. They might not pull it off.

I think there is strong overlap between those who would mine on this chain and those who would mine on the original ETH fork. If I had to choose between Perma and a legitimate unforked ETH, I'd pick the latter.

The schedule will still be "aggressive" relative to all other POW-only distributions I'm aware of. I was considering stretching the undistributed half-life from 6 weeks to something like 20 or 24 weeks.

I will make a few other bug fixes and have a new proposed schedule, then start tempa2 test network and post again.
member
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July 08, 2016, 07:04:56 PM
#30
so one hell of instamine for linux user? unsure why ocminer and notso fall for this.

legendary
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@notsofast
July 08, 2016, 12:24:42 PM
#29

a project like Perma that directly bases itself on the direction a lot of people think ETH *should* have taken.

Moral judgement aside, you really think alot of ppl believe Eth should have been insta mined?


I can see how you'd see it as instamining. But if I understand the project correctly, it's about creating a viable alternate ETHlike chain immediately, not coddling for fair distribution. Your basis for comparison is out of whack. Perma doesn't have to emulate ETH's history before the hardfork, only what comes after. Choosing to mine or support Perma has nothing to do with opinions on how ETH should have started.

I think front-loading the earliest block rewards is the best course of action considering the project's intentions to create a legitimate new ETH fork. How else do you attract PoW mining network security in the fastest way possible?
hero member
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July 07, 2016, 06:53:31 PM
#28

a project like Perma that directly bases itself on the direction a lot of people think ETH *should* have taken.

Moral judgement aside, you really think alot of ppl believe Eth should have been insta mined?
legendary
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@notsofast
July 07, 2016, 11:43:59 AM
#27
Looks good, will add a pool upon launch

Seriously? The guy who has strong moral opposition to the now defunct soft fork solution for Eth is morally fine with yet another ETH clone with "aggressive" initial distribution (aka insta mine).


Moralism and opportunism aren't mutually exclusive, first of all.

Your subjective moral judgement is a pretty far reach, secondly.

I think it's complementary for oc to dissociate himself from ETH for moral reasons, and dedicate the resources and experience he used to support his ETH pool to a project like Perma that directly bases itself on the direction a lot of people think ETH *should* have taken. I suggested he take a look at Perma in fact. No idea whether he took my suggestion or found the project on his own, but he already supports ETH clones KR and EXP with mining pools, as well as any altcoin in general he thinks would be worth pool-mining on launch.

It's just weird to me that you point the finger of moral judgement in the cryptocurrency scene, especially without seeming to know the full picture.
sr. member
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July 07, 2016, 07:12:21 AM
#26
standing by
hero member
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July 07, 2016, 06:22:11 AM
#25
Looks good, will add a pool upon launch

Seriously? The guy who has strong moral opposition to the now defunct soft fork solution for Eth is morally fine with yet another ETH clone with "aggressive" initial distribution (aka insta mine).

I like this idea. Will it be maintained appropriatley? Also the soldity bugs will they be ironed out?

If by maintained properly you mean, insta mined and dumped at first possible chance on exchange sure!
full member
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July 06, 2016, 10:46:54 PM
#24
how to mine.
newbie
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July 06, 2016, 08:37:55 PM
#23
Thin ANN. More Details?
hero member
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July 06, 2016, 08:32:01 PM
#22
intersting and looks cool,yeah this is a good idea,, im in
hero member
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July 06, 2016, 08:15:50 PM
#21
I like this idea. Will it be maintained appropriatley? Also the soldity bugs will they be ironed out?
newbie
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Merit: 0
July 06, 2016, 08:09:00 PM
#20
Looks good, now just to learn more about mining on ETH clones.

It's exactly the same as for Ethereum. Just connect to the right network.


As an aside, I posted some musings on the hard fork here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/perma-network-bootstrappping-and-thoughts-on-the-hard-fork-1540966
hero member
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July 06, 2016, 12:33:33 PM
#19
Im in. Ill have 2 gpus allocated to mining this at least on HF
sr. member
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July 06, 2016, 08:22:50 AM
#18
willing to try... i was already looking for something else to mine. i'll try this one and see how it goes.
legendary
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Merit: 1001
July 06, 2016, 07:39:20 AM
#17
Looks good, now just to learn more about mining on ETH clones.
newbie
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Merit: 0
July 06, 2016, 07:15:00 AM
#16
is there an official HF date yet??
when is the eth hardfork?

We don't know yet, we are having trouble coordinating a HF spec. The deadline is about 37 days, when the attacker would be able to create transactions which would make recovery impossible.
legendary
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July 06, 2016, 06:16:22 AM
#15
when is the eth hardfork?
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