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Topic: [PETAMINE] Share Price Speculation Thread - page 2. (Read 3360 times)

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February 26, 2014, 10:13:47 AM
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The price is low in my opinion. As investor you need to decide whether you believe CryptX stated goal of  sustaining 2% (or more) of total global hash-rate is achievable, then settle on what a reasonable time-frame on a return is for you based upon dividend calculations and your buy-in price.

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February 26, 2014, 10:09:23 AM
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Updated spreadsheet linked. If you are interested in a quick look at what dividends it calculates - 0.078btc/share.
I changed few things, mostly btc exchange rate. Set that at $550, and with 1% increase/10 days. Goes to $750 in 2015. Somehow low Undecided

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AqR6B1kLN7bvdF9EemNGeVBKdDE5MWZtdkFBYk9SY3c&output=html&richtext=true

That second question now is, at what price will shares be?
If 0.078 is annual dividend, and we (shareholders) settle with a PE of 4 (yield 25%), it's 0.312 btc/share.

The P/E on AM is 12, that would put the Petamine price at 0.936.

any idea why the shares are valued so low? im starting to think some people know something about petamine i don't

i'm expecting a massive rise over the next two weeks as we reach full deployment



The price is low in my opinion. As investor you need to decide whether you believe CryptX stated goal of  sustaining 2% (or more) of total global hash-rate is achievable, then settle on what a reasonable time-frame on a return is for you based upon dividend calculations and your buy-in price.

Bitcoin markets can be at times predicatably irrational, and irrationally predictable
In this case you will see an example, as hashrate increases, share-price will also increase, yet the news has already been publicized and it should already be priced in. maybe some think it's a safer bet buying on the up, when something is demonstrated and proven. In some cases it is, but buying low is safe bet when you already know others will buy on the up and you believe what's stated.

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February 26, 2014, 10:08:06 AM
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Many are still waiting for first dividends to arrive before making any decision. Will be late Wink
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February 26, 2014, 09:32:01 AM
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Updated spreadsheet linked. If you are interested in a quick look at what dividends it calculates - 0.078btc/share.
I changed few things, mostly btc exchange rate. Set that at $550, and with 1% increase/10 days. Goes to $750 in 2015. Somehow low Undecided

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AqR6B1kLN7bvdF9EemNGeVBKdDE5MWZtdkFBYk9SY3c&output=html&richtext=true

That second question now is, at what price will shares be?
If 0.078 is annual dividend, and we (shareholders) settle with a PE of 4 (yield 25%), it's 0.312 btc/share.

The P/E on AM is 12, that would put the Petamine price at 0.936.

any idea why the shares are valued so low? im starting to think some people know something about petamine i don't

i'm expecting a massive rise over the next two weeks as we reach full deployment

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February 25, 2014, 11:35:32 AM
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Second assumption - in time hosting fee (power) will be lower per ghs - will be new more efficient chips with better kwh/ghs ratio.
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February 25, 2014, 10:57:53 AM
#2
Updated spreadsheet linked. If you are interested in a quick look at what dividends it calculates - 0.078btc/share.
I changed few things, mostly btc exchange rate. Set that at $550, and with 1% increase/10 days. Goes to $750 in 2015. Somehow low Undecided

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AqR6B1kLN7bvdF9EemNGeVBKdDE5MWZtdkFBYk9SY3c&output=html&richtext=true

That second question now is, at what price will shares be?
If 0.078 is annual dividend, and we (shareholders) settle with a PE of 4 (yield 25%), it's 0.312 btc/share.
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February 25, 2014, 07:07:24 AM
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As a long time lurker in the other thread I think its about time we make a separate thread to discuss price speculation. We have too many opinion pieces in the other thread and its getting slightly out of control. To put it simply, its not good to have speculation going on the in the main thread, it is very confusing to new investors.

Please see below the latest update i have from CryptX

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Dear Shareholders,

First of all we like to thank you for your patience and your confidence in our team and our business.

A little history to remind early shareholders and inform new shareholders what has happened so far.  We started trading on btct.co mid-August and set a goal of 1 GH/s per share to be deployed with Cointerra systems in December. Soon after this we decided to do an incentive for our shareholders and set up our first mine with custom made Bitfury systems free for all shareholders. We mined a couple of weeks and paid a total dividend of 915 BTC. In the meantime btct.co closed and we moved our stock to Cryptostocks.com.  After taking a vote, we decided to sell all the hardware to obtain more hashrate to be deployed in the mid-December mine. As a result all shares became entitled to 2.4 GH/s. We also made the decision to split our risk between Cointerra and Bitmine and we moved to Havelockinvestements because of the strict regulations on that exchange.

We have done everything in our power to start the mining as soon as possible. To do so, we have split the risk between two different hardware suppliers. Unfortunately, like 90% in this business, there have been delays with both of them. Our datacenter is ready to receive the miners for weeks now, so up till last week it was a frustrating waiting game for all of us.

We really believe in our project the PETAMINE and have invested a lot of time and money in it. We have set an ambitious goal to obtain and retain a minimum of 2% of the network.

To achieve this 2% goal, these factors are of crucial importance:

1.      Start date of the PETAMINE
2.      Initial hashrate of the PETAMINE
3.      Speed and cost of reinvestment
4.      Hosting capacity


1.      Start date of the PETAMINE

We suffered delays which were out of our control. Nevertheless we are proud to have started the deployment of the mine on the 13th of February. The progress of deployment can be followed here:
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1PETAmNrgdzx3FwzJPNuhx18JVKdGtwWt6

2.      Initial hashrate of the PETAMINE

Our initial contract stated a hashrate of 1 GH/s per share which we were able to increase to 2.4 GH/s per share thanks to the Bitfury hardware sale.

Due to current delays in delivery and because of the crucial importance of the initial hashrate of the PETAMINE, we like to announce that WE WILL DEPLOY AN ASTONISHING 700 TH/S INSTEAD OF THE PROMISED 230 TH/S. This means a hashrate of 8.68 GH/S PER SHARE OR 3 TIMES THE PROMISED HASHRATE! We are confident that this is the extra push the PETAMINE needs to really excel! You can find the confirmed deployment schedule below.

CryptX will remain the right to IPO the remaining 19,326 shares at an equal hashrate per share at the time of the IPO, so no dilution is possible. This enables us to give the PETAMINE an extra boost of minimum 170 TH/s.

3.      Speed and cost of reinvestment

A lot of the success of the PETAMINE will depend on how and when the 35% reinvestment funds will be used. To ensure a fast deployment at a low cost, we decided to produce our own mining hardware based on the A1 chips. To accomplish this, we have currently 3 teams working on 3 different designs. We will choose the most optimal design in terms of costs and convenience for our production.
We also secured a huge chip deal which enables us to manufacture our own mining hardware.

4.      Hosting capacity

We own our own datacenter which has currently a capacity up to 750 TH/s, which enables us to deploy very fast and use custom designed hardware. We have engineered a standard unit with a hosting capacity of 500 TH/s, which can be installed fully operational in a matter of weeks. This enables us to expand at a very fast pace.

CryptX has invested a lot in our current datacenter and will have to do so in the future. The applied hosting costs of 0.45$/kwh includes all costs for the PETAMINE, so no extra electricity costs, maintenance costs, operational costs, management fees or any other costs will be charged.

Deployment schedule:

Cointerra
Currently:      26 TerraMiners fully deployed
Next week:      4 TerraMiners

Bitmine:
Currently:      8 Coincraft Desks fully deployed
Next week:      62 Coincraft Desks
Week 10:        55 Coincraft Rigs
Week 11:        55 Coincraft Rigs
Week 12:        55 Coincraft Rigs
Week 13-15:     250 TH/s of custom hardware together with the first reinvestment units

Please see below to a link to PETAMINE's hashing statistics.

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Does anyone have an updated spreadsheet with the 700TH/s delivery numbers?
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