Topic: Petition for new mods who will ban users who troll and harass sites - page 2. (Read 775 times)

Ignoring them will not work. The casino operators have to monitor their threads for allegations that are made against them and then they have to defend their actions by giving feedback or responses against these allegations. It will do more damage in the long run, if they ignored these allegations.

The forum promotes freedom of speech and both parties have a right to express their concerns and to protect their interest. They are also subject to the rules of the forum, like the rest of us.

If the mods perceive these actions as harassment or exploitation of these services, then they will react accordingly. 

Yeah I agree, it's pretty crazy how bad things have gotten especially the past year. I used to be super active on this forum and I use it the bare minimum I can. As you mentioned, we made a stake/Primedice forum and I recommend you make a Betking Forum.

I appreciate that the staff here are against censoring users but I think their lack of awareness regarding this scene has allowed trolls dominate this board.

Thank you for your post. The OP created this thread in the hope of getting anybody banned for trying to simply expose him (Dean Nolan & Betking scam)

I have no idea what alleged threats another user has made in PMs to scammer Dean Nolan & Betking but as far as my own situation is concerned I have asked Dean Nolan to answer some questions to put the scam allegations to rest but he refuses to answer them.

You are right I am not a troll, this is exactly how I would act when I saw something that was evidently a scam. Just being suspicious would not make me make allegations, I needed proof and those scams in my signature are based on proof not suspicions.

I would like Dean Nolan to answer some simple questions to clear all this up.

Clearly, Betking is avoiding some basic questions.
100% transparency = 0% scam and
0% tranparency = 100% scam.

There are many other reputable sites which are totally ok with these type of questions and almost 100% transparent. clearly, Betking is not one of them.
Thanks for the people of are bringing this scam on the surface. And instead of answering questions you are trying to ban them,
SHAME ON YOU BETKING.

Did you add the total profit of currency value increasement to P? If yes, how much?

If you did it, why did the token price not increase for at least 100% while the currency value increased up to 200%?

I know how the legal system works (civil and criminal laws) and there is nothing to misunderstand for me or lawyers or authorities!

Your formula claims that the total profit of currencies (value increase- or decreasement) will be added to the token value, whereas you forgot to add it!

By UK laws you are also obligated to do accounting, whereas you forgot it! No wait, your accounting and tax declaration is proper and free available, but you forgot to say where?

You also publicly claimed that investors are part of the bankroll and casino operation. You also announced minimum 50% of the investment will be used as bankroll. The value of the bankroll increased up to 200%, whereas you forgot to add it to the token value?

If you are too stupid to understand your own nonsense, you possibly should have continued playing poker instead!

Dean Nolan you have several "Betking" usernames (betking.io and betking support etc) so it does not matter which one you use to reply here because the fact remains.

Instead of you saying "I will not answer your questions because...." you could have and should have just answered them and if you could have proven me wrong I would gladly remove the Scam Alert from my signature and never ever post in any Betking related thread again.....

... but Dean Nolan fabricates excuses to avoid replying to questions because his own answers will expose his scam.

Let me help you with that:

Where I is the initial token price after the IC0, $0.09286 and P is the total site profit from all games and currencies at the current exchange rate in $.


See how you do not understand how the token model worked and spread lies based on your own misunderstanding?

Chazley is just the same as you and game-protect and bitter and jealous of BetKing, he is not a token holder. He just spreads FUD too.

Iluvbitcoins I believe has sold all his tokens back to me and actually misunderstood how the ICO worked. As does game-protect because he keeps highlighting a quote that even shows he doesn't understand it.
I don't know who jonte is. He claimed to be an investor but wouldn't give his name to me even in pm and didn't ask to join the investor telegram group.
If he had 1.5 BTC in the ico he has probably had all his token bought back already. I own 70 million of them, but you all keep forgetting that.

"Can I list my questions and put them to you (again) so you can answer them?"
No, you don't deserve any of your questions answered since you post lies and nonsense that show you have no clue how anything worked and just believed idiots that also have no clue. Like game-protect and chazley.

there is no point in starting banning people for that , personally I will always play at the sites that I start unless I see a clear scam accusation
I still play on plenty of sites that even has negative trust cause sometimes I find the cases not fair or there is a little bit of info not cleae
so I for sure won't care about some people posts in case I truly like the site

there is a trust system here that can help a little if the attacker is posting nonsense , but some users here bring some valid points

since I don't see investors complaining about betking and since I'm not an investor myself I really don't care about posts regarding this issue and I still use Betking daily

starting banning people who are attacking sites isn't good IMO 

Thank you very much for your post Patatas

What you said is completely correct. I am not a troll, I am entitled to ask questions and have all the rights to express my views.

I agree with you, Dean Nolan should sort it out once and for all by actually explaining his actions by answering the questions put forward to him. I am happy to make a list and post them here and he can take his time and respond. That would be a very mature way forward on his part.

As you correctly stated all I am asking for is conclusions and proof on the issues raised. I can list the queries, issues and questions (just as I have done in the past) and wait for Dean Nolan to reply. All of the users visiting this thread will see them too but Dean Nolan is refusing to address them and instead produces excuses just in order to avoid exposing himself by his own admissions and evidence.

And yes, Dean Nolan is trying to show people this is about the forum when it definitely is clearly about Dean Nolan and myself.

Thank you for your neutral post Patatas, I appreciate it.

Correct. When you open your mouth only nonsense conjecture and FUD is coming out!


I already posted the facts of your investment scam. If you are too stupid too read or understand it, it is your failure and not mine!

https://imgur.com/a/nt6HUjC


You announced that the profit of currencies will be added to the token value. The value of the invested currencies temporarily increased up to 200%, but you did not add this profit to the token value! In the real world this is called investment scam!

Now and it is very likely, there is the additional accusation of investment scam with publicising false numbers of allegedly received investments to mislead potential investors to fall into your trap.

I have currently no proof of this accusation, but all the available info and your shady behaviour clearly confirms that you never ever received crypto currencies worth near $6 million. During the legal proceeding against you, you will have to show that you received $6 million investments and I am 100% sure that you will fail! I bet 10 Bitcoins on it!

Chazley exposing Dean Nolan and Betking scam:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5gfdxk/betking_trying_to_censor_questions_about_ico/

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42653726

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42701702

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42701747


Direct posts from investors about Dean Nolan and Betking scamming them in the ICO:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43321499

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25690641

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25717485


Other comments about Dean Nolan and Betking:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.44943598

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45382116

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43384441

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43031053

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43037110

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43107552

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43118265

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43217686

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.44030428

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.44644820


What is stopping you answering the list of questions I put forward to you in the past but you continue to ignore?

Can I list my questions and put them to you (again) so you can answer them?

Ah, so just nonsense conjecture and FUD then. If you have a scam accusation, base it on facts. No shit.
But then I guess you can't.

Good question!

I meanwhile believe that you never ever received crypto currencies worth near $6 million and that you lied to the public about the already received investments to mislead and attract other potential investors to fall into your trap!

This would also explain why you are concerned about JollyGood and I calling out your criminal activities and harming your actual casino business. Because if you really collected crypto currencies worth $6 million that temporarily increased to $18 million, why would you care about losing some casino customers? That does not make any sense, because you should have already $6 million in your pocket!

Also, if you already received investments worth $6 million that temporarily increased to $18 million, why would you continue looking for more investors, while you even did not use a fraction of the $6 to $18 million collected for your casino operation? That does not make any sense!

Also, your first ICO directly after you closed BetKing December 2016 failed. Why would be the second ICO 9 months later and while BetKing was already closed since 9 months suddenly so successful? That does not make any sense!

Find me a single investor who is looking for an explanation of my actions.
You can't. They are all in direct communication with me, daily.

Notice that it is only you and game-protect that repeat this nonsense.
Where are the actual token holders who think I have scammed them?
They are not posting in any of your 4-5 threads. They are not posting in here. They are not emailing or messaging me.

Find me one and I'll answer their questions.

You adn game-protect however, I don't need to answer a single questions from you guys.

Thank you for your post.

Well, I have asked Dean Nolan several times to answer some questions to explain why he failed to live up to the whitepaper proposals even though more than $6.5 million was raised in the ICO. When he deleted my post in his self-moderated thread I maybe got twitchy and decided to make the posts. It is too early to say whether in hindsight I would do it again or not.

The irony of what you wrote about users getting paid for avatars/campaigns is related directly when Betking had its ICO in 2017 I was warning people the ICO was a scam because of the way the Betking tokens were being pushed and all the misleading information Dean Nolan the owner of Betking provided in order to dupe investors.

It was those very same users getting paid for avatars/campaigns by none other than Dean Nolan and Betking that were posting in droves to drown out the voices of reason alerting users to be careful. Dean Nolan and his beloved Betking cannot have it both ways. The most Dean Nolan and Betking managed to do was to lock the Betking thead and re-open another self-moderate done.

Dean Nolan should be explaining his actions to investors and also any other person that wants to know why he failed to fulfill the whitepaper proposals and how he will rectify the situation partially refunding or fully reimbursing investors. People invested on whitepaper promises, not lies and scams.

When Dean Nolan sent me a PM implying Stake paid me to post against him I took a screenshot and sent to the Stake team. Dean Nolan tried to wriggle out of it by saying to the Stake team "I assume he was paid by another site". Everybody knows Dean Nolan is a spoiled jealous prat but the Stake team kindly turned a blind eye even though if Dean Nolan had his way he would want all gambling sites wiped out so he could have a monopoly. The Stake team are great, Dean Nolan should take a leaf out of their book: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45280777

This is what I have been trying to ask Dean Nolan but he declines to answer. I am not too concerned about the Betking website regarding the way users place bets or deposit/withdraw crypto. I am asking him to explain various things regarding the ICO set up and the siphoning of funds under false guises: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45824718

@Dean Nolan (Betking)

There is a list of questions for you to answer, would you please be kind enough to answer them?

If yes, please do not post URLs to previous posts. Just simple questions will be put forward and we hope simple answers will be given for all to see. That way several things can be cleared up and clarified.

If no, then kindly explain why you declined to answer simple questions regarding Betking Tokens, Betking ICO and Betking in general.

Would you please consider it?

By the way, we are in October 2018 now but Dean Nolan has his beloved Betking website still shows © 2013-2017 even though betking.io was registered in 2015. Dean Nolan is making no mention of the Betking predecessor called PocketRocketsCasino which was around in 2013 but it is normal for Dean Nolan to stretch things when he wants.

Time to pay your coder to change the "2017" to "2018" and then pay your coder again to update it on new years day  

I think it's funny how after Game-Protect got banned from BetKing's affiliate program, he immediately launches a "scam" campaign against them, creating pages and trying to defame them.

You don't go from being an "affiliate" to a critic without shady tactics. He then sends negative rep to users telling them they should have checked the signature campaign they were working with and telling them they are participating in illegal actions. By that definition, he was doing the same thing. He's a hypocrite.

You're either paying Game-Protect through affiliate commissions, or you're immediately his enemy. It's just a shady business practice.
Even going as far as to change Wikipedia pages: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilotto


Let's face it, the guy has inexcusable tactics. He recently just shamefully jumped into a signature campaign I was accepted into posting the following targeting me simply because I've questioned him and his website on it's legitimacy: http://archive.is/o8qQb

That's not positive behaviour.

If trust abuse isn't illegal according to site guidelines, then he may not be breaking any rules. But he's definitely not a positive member in the BitcoinTalk community; and I think most would agree with that based off his trust score.

In that case, you could have opened a case in Meta and asked the community's views on the reported post? This does wonders and helps you find out if the post is actually against the forum's rules. 99.9% of the time if the report is unhandled, it's mostly the mods missed it otherwise it's just a bad report.

To ask you when the affiliate statistic of lifetime referred players will be re-installed is breaking actual forum rules or what?


Lying about your victims and committing the criminal offense of defamation is not breaking actual forum rules?

I've have reported them for breaking actual forum rules. Mods done nothing