Petition for sites to accept Bitcoin?

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Quote from: bitbunnny on October 17, 2016, 08:58:30 AM

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Quote from: Decoded on October 16, 2016, 05:40:47 PM

Hey guys, if we were to come up with a huge petition and invite everyone you know to sign it, we could potentially get thousands of signatures. If we could get this, we could show it to any major company and hopefully sway them towards accepting bitcoin.

Any ideas? Will it work? Will it not? Improvements?

this is a great idea but why a petition with signing anything,...?

instead I think it is a lot better that we start submitting request tickets with the sites we want to see bitcoin payment on. for example on steam there was a lot of tickets and a lot of forum posts asking them to accept bitcoin and they finally gave in and did it.

the same thing can be done with any other site.

I agree with this proposal for sending tickets and requests for Bitcoin payments.
I don't think that any business would care about some petition signed by anonimous forum members but if they are starting to receive multiple requests by their customers that could have some impact and make them to change their mind if they want to keep their customers and improve profit.

i couldn't agree more.
a petition that is signed with even a lot of people may very well be a list of fake signatures. besides when you submit such query to these sites it would be only one request even if it contains a thousands signatures. but if we each send a separate request it would be a thousands different requests in their inbox over the times they will add bitcoin eventually.

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i would definitely support such an initiative. i'm all in to get more online stores to accept bitcoin as payment tool. we can either wait for it to happen, which can take years and years, or we can come into action and do it ourself. i go for the latter option.

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yes it's a good decision for conducting petitions in bitcoin. if majority website accept bitcoin then it's price will rise up because many new people will start using bitcoin and they will buy bitcoin because of its simplicity, fastness and less transaction fees.

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Its a great idea but i think its not this year ,cause in the first place we cant go on with that location and we are on different countries so we (bitcoiners) cant sign a petition .especially bitcoiners or we are on different countries so how can we do that to sign every person.
In accepting bitcoins in major companies i think they will ignore it even we have that signs petition .

I have a suggestion that one big company or a rich bitcoiners in one company then we are the supporters and the first on it .maybe it may take some time to "BOOM" that company but surely in the future it is the star company of digital currency.

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Quote from: Pursuer on October 17, 2016, 03:32:15 AM

Quote from: Decoded on October 16, 2016, 05:40:47 PM

Hey guys, if we were to come up with a huge petition and invite everyone you know to sign it, we could potentially get thousands of signatures. If we could get this, we could show it to any major company and hopefully sway them towards accepting bitcoin.

Any ideas? Will it work? Will it not? Improvements?

this is a great idea but why a petition with signing anything,...?

instead I think it is a lot better that we start submitting request tickets with the sites we want to see bitcoin payment on. for example on steam there was a lot of tickets and a lot of forum posts asking them to accept bitcoin and they finally gave in and did it.

the same thing can be done with any other site.

I agree with this proposal for sending tickets and requests for Bitcoin payments.
I don't think that any business would care about some petition signed by anonimous forum members but if they are starting to receive multiple requests by their customers that could have some impact and make them to change their mind if they want to keep their customers and improve profit.

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Quote from: Decoded on October 16, 2016, 05:40:47 PM

Hey guys, if we were to come up with a huge petition and invite everyone you know to sign it, we could potentially get thousands of signatures. If we could get this, we could show it to any major company and hopefully sway them towards accepting bitcoin.

Any ideas? Will it work? Will it not? Improvements?

i like anything that is remotely related to increasing the public awareness of bitcoin and helps shops to add bitcoin payment.

but i think this is not the best way of doing it as others have said, there are better ways like directly contacting these sites and maybe introducing bitcoin and its benefits to them so they accept it.

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Bitcoin is actually a revolutionary product in financial sector and big bank giants/goverment think bitcoin as threat to their traditional banking and tax system and hate the anonymity bitcoin have in transactions. And whatever we do to force them to start accepting bitcoin as cash they will ignore it and this idea of collecting sign from supporters may help to spread use about bitcoin but it may require a lot more such events as well as time for every company started to realize the power of bitcoin.

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The problem with that kind of petitions is that the effects in regard to Bitcoin acceptance might be short-lived or even negative. I don't think it's wise trying to convince businesses to accept BTC that did not show any interest before. Even if you are successful in the first place, business owners will carefully monitor sales generated from this payment method and are easily disappointed if it fails to generate more sales. So in addition to persuading the business owners to accept BTC, you must also ensure that there is constant demand by customers to use this particular payment method for the products/services in question.

In my view it's better to be more careful with recommending Bitcoin to everyone. Disappointed business users are hard to win back. If you're talking about Bitcoin to business owners you should cover potential risks and problems as well and not give rise unrealistic expectations.

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Quote from: Decoded on October 16, 2016, 05:40:47 PM

Hey guys, if we were to come up with a huge petition and invite everyone you know to sign it, we could potentially get thousands of signatures. If we could get this, we could show it to any major company and hopefully sway them towards accepting bitcoin.

Any ideas? Will it work? Will it not? Improvements?

IMO petitions don't work for companies. All they care about is the profit so only when they were covinced that using Bitcoin is profitable they will start using it.

Another issue with petitions is that you can fake most of the signatures and it would take lots of time and resources to check whether they are genuine or not.

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Quote from: LoyceV on October 17, 2016, 05:02:40 AM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on October 17, 2016, 04:35:04 AM

I just made my first purchase directly with Bitcoin last week. It didn't went as smoothly as with card, but I think that both parts will learn and improve the system. It's a good start however and it's the way to go.

For me, at thuisbezorgd.nl, using bitcoin was much smoother than using a creditcard. The only thing that slowed it down was entering my PIN-code on my phone app.
The website showed the amount, and a QR-code. A quick scan with my phone, and it instantly said "paid" on the PC-screen.

PIN-code: 6 digits.
Creditcard: Name + 16 + 3 + mm/yy = 30-40 digits.

The problem was that the payment processor only gave a 10 minutes time frame for the Bitcoin transfer.
Silly me, I did the transfer from Poloniex (I wanted to withdraw anyway some from there). Just Polo was this time slower than usual, the coins were transferred after the time frame expired and then I had open a ticket, ask the payment processor check the payment, .. yeah.
Next time I'll use my own wallet and maybe they'll use wider time frame.

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Quote from: Decoded on October 16, 2016, 05:40:47 PM

Hey guys, if we were to come up with a huge petition and invite everyone you know to sign it, we could potentially get thousands of signatures. If we could get this, we could show it to any major company and hopefully sway them towards accepting bitcoin.

Any ideas? Will it work? Will it not? Improvements?

i don't think gathering thousands of signature is going to change the minds of some of these sites in order for them to start accepting bitcoin in their site.
but i am always in for anything that can help bitcoin in any way and help the adoption.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on October 17, 2016, 04:35:04 AM

I just made my first purchase directly with Bitcoin last week. It didn't went as smoothly as with card, but I think that both parts will learn and improve the system. It's a good start however and it's the way to go.

For me, at thuisbezorgd.nl, using bitcoin was much smoother than using a creditcard. The only thing that slowed it down was entering my PIN-code on my phone app.
The website showed the amount, and a QR-code. A quick scan with my phone, and it instantly said "paid" on the PC-screen.

PIN-code: 6 digits.
Creditcard: Name + 16 + 3 + mm/yy = 30-40 digits.

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Quote from: LoyceV on October 17, 2016, 04:27:27 AM

In my opinion the best way for sites to accept Bitcoin is if their payment processor accepts it.

I just wanted to propose this, but you already did.
In Romania there's also a payment processor (netopia mobilpay) that accepts Bitcoin. And the only way to encourage this trend to rise is to use this payment method whenever possible.
I just made my first purchase directly with Bitcoin last week. It didn't went as smoothly as with card, but I think that both parts will learn and improve the system. It's a good start however and it's the way to go.

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Quote from: Decoded on October 16, 2016, 05:40:47 PM

a huge petition and invite everyone you know to sign it

Most people sign any petition without knowing what it's about. Check the "ban water petition" videos on Youtube (they are fun to watch) to see how easily people sign petitions.
And for that reason, I think petitions do not prove people actually care about it.
If I get 100 people to sign an "accept Bitcoin"-petition, that doesn't mean they'll actually want to use it to buy stuff.

In my opinion the best way for sites to accept Bitcoin is if their payment processor accepts it. This way, the webshop doesn't even have to know what payment method the buyer uses.
www.multisafepay.com for example offers 19 different payment methods, but Bitcoin is not one of them.

In the Netherlands the biggest site I know that accepts it, is thuisbezorgd.nl. They offer 8 different payment methods, including Bitcoin. This is however processed by bitpay.com, not by a payment processor that handles all different payments.

Quote from: Adar Korin on October 16, 2016, 07:34:34 PM

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Quote from: Milkduds on October 16, 2016, 06:16:19 PM

Sadly bitcoiners are gamblers,traders and darknet users to most of these sites and they do not see much upside in adding a feature that could just create more work for them in the end.

I think you're right here. But this doesn't mean it can't change. The internet started out mainly because of porn. VHS had the same start. Both have outgrown that industry. Bitcoin can do the same.

I think there's one thing that can help: use Bitcoin at any chance you get! If it's an option between 8 other options, choose Bitcoin.

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Quote from: Decoded on October 16, 2016, 05:40:47 PM

Hey guys, if we were to come up with a huge petition and invite everyone you know to sign it, we could potentially get thousands of signatures. If we could get this, we could show it to any major company and hopefully sway them towards accepting bitcoin.

Any ideas? Will it work? Will it not? Improvements?

Depends on the site and if how their brainstorming will goes.

But you know even with thousands of signatures as a petition, a major company will look into brighter side and not just only with a massive request. Take a look at some of the big merchants today, Im pretty sure somehow they have received some lots of request about accepting bitcoin but still in doubt if they will accept it. Their strategic team are somehow cares for the price fluctuations of bitcoin since most of them are dealing with fiat most of the time.

As long as bitcoin is majorily used for investment purposes, we can't see some good merchants that will accept bitcoin as one of their payment method option.

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The problem i see with this is that nowadays people seem to be using bitcoin less and just holding more as a future investment. The problem comes when a site adds bitcoin to there accepted payments and nobody actually uses it because its cheaper to use paypal or something similar. I have to buy bitcoin over spot price as it is so buying something for $10 of bitcoin actually costs more than $10.

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Quote from: Decoded on October 16, 2016, 05:40:47 PM

Hey guys, if we were to come up with a huge petition and invite everyone you know to sign it, we could potentially get thousands of signatures. If we could get this, we could show it to any major company and hopefully sway them towards accepting bitcoin.

Any ideas? Will it work? Will it not? Improvements?

this is a great idea but why a petition with signing anything,...?

instead I think it is a lot better that we start submitting request tickets with the sites we want to see bitcoin payment on. for example on steam there was a lot of tickets and a lot of forum posts asking them to accept bitcoin and they finally gave in and did it.

the same thing can be done with any other site.

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I don't think we would be able to convince companies, especially major ones, with just a few thousand signatures though. And I'm not sure we can realistically expect to get even close to 100,000 people participate in the petition. And then there is the fact that the 100,000 signatures would be for Bitcoin as a general payment method and not for it to be used with a specific service or website. Among those 100,000 only a few would actually be interested to use Bitcoin on any one site we contact. We would need millions of signatures for companies to take notice IMO.

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Quote from: Decoded on October 16, 2016, 05:40:47 PM

Hey guys, if we were to come up with a huge petition and invite everyone you know to sign it, we could potentially get thousands of signatures. If we could get this, we could show it to any major company and hopefully sway them towards accepting bitcoin.

Any ideas? Will it work? Will it not? Improvements?

I think that huge petition will not affect as we expect. probably will just see what written on the petition, but don't really care.

so it's just like informing the sites that there is a cryptocurrency called bitcoin. imo

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I think online petitions are useless in general, and though a large corporation might acknowledge such a thing, it won't sway anyone. But who knows, it could work and if you're set on having bitcoin accepted it's worth a shot. Then again I'm not sure what the big deal with that is. Cash money is still the best payment method, and bitcoin has too many problems in my mind. Better to just keep it and speculate with it.

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