Philippines Senate Election 2019 - Democracy is dead! - page 2.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on May 14, 2019, 08:11:07 AM

Last May 13, 2019, the Philippines held their general elections for the spot for various local government positions and for the senate. There has been an uproar regarding the list of candidates due to some being unqualified and fit for the position (a former head of the national police, television actors, an artist, person who has 16 counts of graft and corruption on his name, someone who constantly fakes her credentials, etc.).
Unfortunately, those who I just mentioned received and won their spot in the senate- the legislative branch that is responsible for making laws.

I do not want to sound politically bias (although it may sound like) but I really feel devastated about the results. I mean, there are lots of candidates whose credentials are far more fitting than most of them. Voting someone who just stole millions of Pesos from the people and still won on the elections?

Do you really think that democracy is dead and is unfitting in the Philippines? If yes, what form of government should be integrated in order to address this issue?

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That someone is Ramon Revilla but he was proven innocent although he had to return the millions of dollars that he allegedly stole, I never voted for this guy even campaign for people not to vote for him, but so many people in the Philippines goes for popularity than credibility and this really harm us.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on May 14, 2019, 11:18:09 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on May 14, 2019, 06:29:03 PM

Democracy is not dead in the Philippines IMO basing on the result. You may not like it but that's the voice of the people.

For candidates who have pending cases, they should be ban from running for government post and this entail amendments to the Constitution but i think this is very far from happening as those who will amend the Constitution will be affected.

The voice of the people? That is where the problem rises due to the majority of voters do not have a voice of their own. Not to be rude but the majority who voted for these candidates are also the people who are unaware of the current state of the country. I just cannot accept that these candidates won despite having criminal and civil cases filed before them. If this is the voice of the people wherein they vote for alleged criminals, artists, a person who does not even know what the job of a senator is, and a thief, then our country is doomed.

I do agree that the Constitution must be amended in order to address this problem of candidates running with pending cases. But again, the people who are responsible for the amendment of the Constitution are the legislative branch, so this may be far from happening.

Yeah most of the voters are so ignorant sorry for the word but that is how I see it,
This is the worst people are making this like a school room election they wouldn't care about who wins or not,
They wouldn't care until they feel the consequence of their action when the country face some calamity .

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on May 14, 2019, 11:18:09 PM

Not to be rude but the majority who voted for these candidates are also the people who are unaware of the current state of the country.

It maybe the other way around, people are more engaged in social media thus making them aware of the candidates they are voting for. The opposition candidates just fell short of convincing people to vote for them, they go against the platform of a high trust rating government and they seem out of tune to the voice of the people (surveys). How can we expect them to win.

Quote from: qwertyup23 on May 14, 2019, 11:18:09 PM

our country is doomed.

Our country is already doomed and thanks to the current administration for saving it, i may sound biased but that is how i saw it.

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You are right Democracy is dead, back in Ancient Greece, that is the only time there has been a democracy and the only reason they stopped was because population got to high and they had no way to take everyone votes each day, no computers at the time so that was not a option, then another nation kind of demolished them.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 14, 2019, 06:29:03 PM

Democracy is not dead in the Philippines IMO basing on the result. You may not like it but that's the voice of the people.

For candidates who have pending cases, they should be ban from running for government post and this entail amendments to the Constitution but i think this is very far from happening as those who will amend the Constitution will be affected.

The voice of the people? That is where the problem rises due to the majority of voters do not have a voice of their own. Not to be rude but the majority who voted for these candidates are also the people who are unaware of the current state of the country. I just cannot accept that these candidates won despite having criminal and civil cases filed before them. If this is the voice of the people wherein they vote for alleged criminals, artists, a person who does not even know what the job of a senator is, and a thief, then our country is doomed.

I do agree that the Constitution must be amended in order to address this problem of candidates running with pending cases. But again, the people who are responsible for the amendment of the Constitution are the legislative branch, so this may be far from happening.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on May 14, 2019, 08:11:07 AM

I do not want to sound politically bias (although it may sound like) but I really feel devastated about the results. I mean, there are lots of candidates whose credentials are far more fitting than most of them. Voting someone who just stole millions of Pesos from the people and still won on the elections?

People will often not vote for the person based on their personal character, they will vote based on the candidates agenda.

Unless there is some evidence of election fraud, or that the elections were otherwise unfair, I would not say that democracy is dead. You need something beyond not liking/agreeing with the outcome.

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Quote from: r1a2y3m4 on May 14, 2019, 03:48:56 PM

Bong Go, Revilla, and Dela Rosa are the top surprises in this senate election. In fact these people are not good as senators. When Dela Rosa was interviewed, he said that if there would be some seminars on law making, he'll be down to that. HOW TF PEOPLE VOTED FOR A PERSON THAT DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO MAKE LAWS. And that's their job on our country. Revilla? So, the senate will be a dance show now? Because of dancing Budots he won. Just because he's handsome he won. Philippines will be dead now. That guy stole money from the country and those people still believes on this guy.

But credentials does not matter know. Remember in 1986 a housewife of a known presidentiable won. Grin

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Well this just proves that the big criminals wear suits and ties ,Not tattoos and stripes.
And the law only applies to the poor .
Such a shame that they would put the hands of the Philiplines to those people.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on May 14, 2019, 08:11:07 AM

Last May 13, 2019, the Philippines held their general elections for the spot for various local government positions and for the senate. There has been an uproar regarding the list of candidates due to some being unqualified and fit for the position (a former head of the national police, television actors, an artist, person who has 16 counts of graft and corruption on his name, someone who constantly fakes her credentials, etc.).
Unfortunately, those who I just mentioned received and won their spot in the senate- the legislative branch that is responsible for making laws.

I do not want to sound politically bias (although it may sound like) but I really feel devastated about the results. I mean, there are lots of candidates whose credentials are far more fitting than most of them. Voting someone who just stole millions of Pesos from the people and still won on the elections?

Do you really think that democracy is dead and is unfitting in the Philippines? If yes, what form of government should be integrated in order to address this issue?

photo from philstar.com

it doesnt matter who you vote for just a different name and a diffrent face,

look how democracy is dying in uk

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Democracy is not dead in the Philippines IMO basing on the result. You may not like it but that's the voice of the people.

For candidates who have pending cases, they should be ban from running for government post and this entail amendments to the Constitution but i think this is very far from happening as those who will amend the Constitution will be affected.

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What a shame that my fellow country men would just ignore the issue and vote who they only know of course it would be the famous actors from the past.
And I really hate it that those people are so ignorant and would just vote who they want base on the looks of the candidates,
Funny how this woman answer the question why she would vote Bong Revilla,
Youtube Link she would still vote him because he is handsome despite the fact that he is a corrupt politician,
And when they were ask about the candidates platform they couldn't answer it they would just vote him because of his looks.

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Bong Go, Revilla, and Dela Rosa are the top surprises in this senate election. In fact these people are not good as senators. When Dela Rosa was interviewed, he said that if there would be some seminars on law making, he'll be down to that. HOW TF PEOPLE VOTED FOR A PERSON THAT DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO MAKE LAWS. And that's their job on our country. Revilla? So, the senate will be a dance show now? Because of dancing Budots he won. Just because he's handsome he won. Philippines will be dead now. That guy stole money from the country and those people still believes on this guy.

But credentials does not matter know. Remember in 1986 a housewife of a known presidentiable won. Grin

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on May 14, 2019, 01:58:31 PM

It was never a democracy from the start, the Americans pretty much made sure of that during the first election they administered. It gave a huge advantage to political dynasties that they've remained entrenched as they were during the Hispanic era. Ever noticed that '87 "Constitution" specified that political dynasties would not be allowed but no proposed law to regulate it ever passed?

That is actually true. It is stated in the Constitution that political dynasties are prohibited yet almost all local governments positions were taken over by families who share the same surname.

I just find it really depressing that our senatorial candidates are filled with people who are endorsed by our president- let almost all are unqualified for the job. I cannot fathom on why our countrymen voted someone who stole money directly in our pockets!

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It was never a democracy from the start, the Americans pretty much made sure of that during the first election they administered. It gave a huge advantage to political dynasties that they've remained entrenched as they were during the Hispanic era. Ever noticed that '87 "Constitution" specified that political dynasties would not be allowed but no proposed law to regulate it ever passed?

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Last May 13, 2019, the Philippines held their general elections for the spot for various local government positions and for the senate. There has been an uproar regarding the list of candidates due to some being unqualified and fit for the position (a former head of the national police, television actors, an artist, person who has 16 counts of graft and corruption on his name, someone who constantly fakes her credentials, etc.).
Unfortunately, those who I just mentioned received and won their spot in the senate- the legislative branch that is responsible for making laws.

I do not want to sound politically bias (although it may sound like) but I really feel devastated about the results. I mean, there are lots of candidates whose credentials are far more fitting than most of them. Voting someone who just stole millions of Pesos from the people and still won on the elections?

Do you really think that democracy is dead and is unfitting in the Philippines? If yes, what form of government should be integrated in order to address this issue?

photo from philstar.com

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