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Topic: [PicoStocks] 100TH/s bitcoin mine [100th] - page 23. (Read 470088 times)

hero member
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https://ghash.io/  843.97 Th/s
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This is a private Bitfury ASIC mining pool. We are mining for fun

Yeah, mining with our money, So fucking fun...
that is exactly what i want to say .i am getting more and more angry!!
hero member
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nice 10 BTC fee block (https://blockchain.info/block-index/431732) for the mine
donator
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https://ghash.io/  843.97 Th/s
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This is a private Bitfury ASIC mining pool. We are mining for fun

Yeah, mining with our money, So fucking fun...
sr. member
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Constructive only could be to raise the TH to the percent of the network it had when it should have been 200Th... though thats probably not possible to achieve.

Or to buy back shares at the price paid for them, or even at the IPO rates, or something.

As opposed to the current, "Sorry, we fucked up, your loss."
legendary
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I hope we can show 200th there next week.

It would be nice, but it just doesn't matter anymore.

The project was funded and priced assuming that 200TH would be a significant chunk of the network, and therefore profitable to invest in.

Due to various delays, 200TH is now a drop in the bucket of the rapidly increasing network hash rate which is getting rather close to 4PH.

Dude we get it. The network hash rate is increasing exponentially. You do not believe 200TH is enough to give a timely ROI. You have said this over and over again.

Constructive posts are what everyone comes here for. Please be constructive or move along.



Constructive only could be to raise the TH to the percent of the network it had when it should have been 200Th... though thats probably not possible to achieve.
newbie
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I hope we can show 200th there next week.

It would be nice, but it just doesn't matter anymore.

The project was funded and priced assuming that 200TH would be a significant chunk of the network, and therefore profitable to invest in.

Due to various delays, 200TH is now a drop in the bucket of the rapidly increasing network hash rate which is getting rather close to 4PH.

Dude we get it. The network hash rate is increasing exponentially. You do not believe 200TH is enough to give a timely ROI. You have said this over and over again.

Constructive posts are what everyone comes here for. Please be constructive or move along.

sr. member
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I hope we can show 200th there next week.

It would be nice, but it just doesn't matter anymore.

The project was funded and priced assuming that 200TH would be a significant chunk of the network, and therefore profitable to invest in.

Due to various delays, 200TH is now a drop in the bucket of the rapidly increasing network hash rate which is getting rather close to 4PH.
legendary
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As someone who has invested 13 btc in 100TH...i still must view this from a business perspective.


.02 to .04 btc buys 178 MH/s right now.

Even if they get 200 TH/s; 1 share will only get ~385 Megahashes/sec.

It will take 120-365 days to make ROI of .02 to .04 btc.


The 200 TH/s mine will need to go 500TH/s to compete with competition such as Avalon and Asicminer who are doing their very own server farms.

@ 200Th/s and with the current fees and block generation; this mine is not very profitable at the moment.

Didnt you forget the div-updates? http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/

What do you mean div-updates?   difficulty increase or the dividends update?  You have me confused.

Oh right... of course i meant diff-updates... Smiley
vip
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I just sent 150 coins to the mine - there appears to have been a server config that changed, causing coins to not be sent immediately.  I'll check the other servers as well.
hero member
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As someone who has invested 13 btc in 100TH...i still must view this from a business perspective.


.02 to .04 btc buys 178 MH/s right now.

Even if they get 200 TH/s; 1 share will only get ~385 Megahashes/sec.

It will take 120-365 days to make ROI of .02 to .04 btc.


The 200 TH/s mine will need to go 500TH/s to compete with competition such as Avalon and Asicminer who are doing their very own server farms.

@ 200Th/s and with the current fees and block generation; this mine is not very profitable at the moment.

Didnt you forget the div-updates? http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/

What do you mean div-updates?   difficulty increase or the dividends update?  You have me confused.
legendary
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As someone who has invested 13 btc in 100TH...i still must view this from a business perspective.


.02 to .04 btc buys 178 MH/s right now.

Even if they get 200 TH/s; 1 share will only get ~385 Megahashes/sec.

It will take 120-365 days to make ROI of .02 to .04 btc.


The 200 TH/s mine will need to go 500TH/s to compete with competition such as Avalon and Asicminer who are doing their very own server farms.

@ 200Th/s and with the current fees and block generation; this mine is not very profitable at the moment.

Didnt you forget the div-updates? http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/
hero member
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As someone who has invested 13 btc in 100TH...i still must view this from a business perspective.


.02 to .04 btc buys 178 MH/s right now.

Even if they get 200 TH/s; 1 share will only get ~385 Megahashes/sec.

It will take 120-365 days to make ROI of .02 to .04 btc.


The 200 TH/s mine will need to go 500TH/s to compete with competition such as Avalon and Asicminer who are doing their very own server farms.

@ 200Th/s and with the current fees and block generation; this mine is not very profitable at the moment.
sr. member
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As the network hashrate heads to the moon in a hurry. Sad

Even 200TH isn't much with the correct network growth rate.
member
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what's wrong with the dividends???

The dividends match with the current hashrate(54.5TH).

hero member
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what's wrong with the dividends???
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Thanks!
Come on!

100th will whether or not  john hands with Cointerra?
donator
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When will be 200Gh/s? (It's 76 now)
My guess is ; When hardware sale price will be lower than what can be mined during the lifetime of the hardware.

This is like AsicMiner but shareholders get nothing from the sales.

BTW,  this isn't FUDs it's common sense.
If you can't give regular meaningful updates,  what else than FUD can you expect?
newbie
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When will be 200Gh/s? (It's 76 now)
legendary
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I'd like to get some clarification on this too. I would expect that the issuer would expand over the 200TH but the wording is not clear. Reinvesting would be really great for shareholders and I think it would compensate for the mine being late. Dave also wrote: "We remain committed to delivering the intended value of this investment - both for you investors and for our own investments." This sounds like they would continue to work on 200TH mine.

Dave or tytus could comment on this so the investors wouldn't have to guess how they are going to proceed.

I must be misunderstanding something. But reinvesting means issuer shall grab parts of your dividends and reinvest them into more hardware. As there are a lot of shareholders willing to part with their shares, won't it be the same if you just buy more shares with your dividends? Why waiting for issuer to move income to buying more hardware for everyone when each shareholder can move income into buying more hardware for himself. Is that because current shareholders are hoping someone will miscalculate and they get earn more money / shares / dividends at the end (at the loss of those who miscalculated)?

No, reinvestment means to raise the mine. Reinvestment doesnt really make much sense when you have to buy miner at enduserprices. But when you get the miners at cost, because you own an asic design, then its a complete different thing since only other companies that own an asic design can compete with you.
I never would reinvest in a normal mine since a normal reinvesting mine pays out dividends and reinvests. But regardless of that... the div will go less over time which at the same time lowers the shareprice. So that you dont earn money in total anymore. At least thats what i observed.

So reinvesting the divs in the same mine that only will have 30% less income each 2 weeks is nothing compared to the issuer creating more miners with a part of the divs.
hero member
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I'd like to get some clarification on this too. I would expect that the issuer would expand over the 200TH but the wording is not clear. Reinvesting would be really great for shareholders and I think it would compensate for the mine being late. Dave also wrote: "We remain committed to delivering the intended value of this investment - both for you investors and for our own investments." This sounds like they would continue to work on 200TH mine.

Dave or tytus could comment on this so the investors wouldn't have to guess how they are going to proceed.

I must be misunderstanding something. But reinvesting means issuer shall grab parts of your dividends and reinvest them into more hardware. As there are a lot of shareholders willing to part with their shares, won't it be the same if you just buy more shares with your dividends? Why waiting for issuer to move income to buying more hardware for everyone when each shareholder can move income into buying more hardware for himself. Is that because current shareholders are hoping someone will miscalculate and they get earn more money / shares / dividends at the end (at the loss of those who miscalculated)?
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