Okay. I'm not getting involved anything more than tell the two of you to start talking. ccl, just reply to hardinero and keep your cell phone open, so he doesn't have to text your sister. hardinero, don't kulit her more than once every couple of days. He has to follow up, so that's understandable.
To all future loaners, next time, get the same info banks ask up front unless you get collateral which should be worth more than what you are lending. (See, tomatocage bitcoin loan for 120% the value of your litecoins, for example.) Or bitfunder / asicminer / etc shares.
When this is all over, submit your story to ABS-CBN, I'd like to watch your episode of MMK.
*edit* ccl, I can accept identity and proof escrow, which I will verify but not reveal to hardinero. For free. You send me the documents he is requesting and I will verify and confirm with him that you are legit. Sounds good?
Then, hardinero, best efforts na lang tanggapin mo, eventually magbabayad din yan. And for further incentive, ccl, give a reasonable self-imposed new deadline to fully pay your loan, which if exceeded, then I will forward your documents to hardinero, then bahala na kayo maki pag areglo.
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ok, i'll be silent and let things cool down a bit. i'll be back after saturday. ccl, i advice you to get the 2 btc as soon as you can, if the price keeps on increasing, it will be harder for you to pay the loan. try borrowing some money from your mother and your sibling and your relatives. if you don't pay them, they wouldn't harrass you 
Can you please take this out of this thread because maybe we want to discuss something relevant like the agenda for this Saturday?
if i were you, i'll produce proofs to support my claims... that i indeed took up culinary lesson... that i indeed paid 10,015 php thru world remit... that i am alexander and not cloudina.
yes, but what proof do i have you won't cause my family harm after doing so? so if you really want to settle to give me you informations as well.
please do understand that with the current situation, you have no right to ask me to give you my information. by showing the documents, you're only going to prove that you're not lying. if you're not lying, lets see what we can do about the loan. di naman ako mahirap kausap, ayaw ko lang yung ginagago ako.
if i were you, i'll produce proofs to support my claims... that i indeed took up culinary lesson... that i indeed paid 10,015 php thru world remit... that i am alexander and not cloudina.
yes, but what proof do i have you won't cause my family harm after doing so? so if you really want to settle to give me you informations as well.
if i were you, i'll produce proofs to support my claims... that i indeed took up culinary lesson... that i indeed paid 10,015 php thru world remit... that i am alexander and not cloudina.
this is your chance to prove that you have a clean intention to seek loan for your culinary lesson.
this is your chance to prove that you have all intention to pay.
this is your chance to prove that you're not cloudina.
this is your chance to prove my accusations are wrong.
if you have proof, i can't find any logical reason why you're not doing it. tsk tsk tsk
this is your chance to prove that you have all intention to pay.
this is your chance to prove that you're not cloudina.
this is your chance to prove my accusations are wrong.
if you have proof, i can't find any logical reason why you're not doing it. tsk tsk tsk
if your intention was clean from the first place for seeking the loan, then why not provide any documents that can show that you indeed took up culinary lessons.
if your intention to pay is clean and your story is true, then why not provide any documents that you indeed paid 10,015php thru world remit.
if you can provide the necessary documents to support your claim, then lets talk terms on how you can pay the debt. otherwise, i'll assume that you're cloudina and you'll experience what 2 btc can do to your life.
if your intention to pay is clean and your story is true, then why not provide any documents that you indeed paid 10,015php thru world remit.
if you can provide the necessary documents to support your claim, then lets talk terms on how you can pay the debt. otherwise, i'll assume that you're cloudina and you'll experience what 2 btc can do to your life.
again fine by me. i respect whatever it is you wish as it'll be something i will bring with me in my grave my conscience is clean and i tried talking this out to you.
so by your words, do you mean you won't be paying your debt? wow, ikaw na ang umutang ikaw pa ang tigasin ah haha! i hate to argue with women but... right now i really dont know what to say. i cant find the right word to describe you cloudina. i hope your kids wouldn't know about what you're doing.
hahaha didn't I say I want to pay? like how many times??? okei let's do this the other way around...if you were me what you will be doing?
Cloudina the scammer, Nice title for a movie <3
if your intention was clean from the first place for seeking the loan, then why not provide any documents that can show that you indeed took up culinary lessons.
if your intention to pay is clean and your story is true, then why not provide any documents that you indeed paid 10,015php thru world remit.
if you can provide the necessary documents to support your claim, then lets talk terms on how you can pay the debt. otherwise, i'll assume that you're cloudina and you'll experience what 2 btc can do to your life.
if your intention to pay is clean and your story is true, then why not provide any documents that you indeed paid 10,015php thru world remit.
if you can provide the necessary documents to support your claim, then lets talk terms on how you can pay the debt. otherwise, i'll assume that you're cloudina and you'll experience what 2 btc can do to your life.
again fine by me. i respect whatever it is you wish as it'll be something i will bring with me in my grave my conscience is clean and i tried talking this out to you.
so by your words, do you mean you won't be paying your debt? wow, ikaw na ang umutang ikaw pa ang tigasin ah haha! i hate to argue with women but... right now i really dont know what to say. i cant find the right word to describe you cloudina. i hope your kids wouldn't know about what you're doing.
if your intention was clean from the first place for seeking the loan, then why not provide any documents that can show that you indeed took up culinary lessons.
if your intention to pay is clean and your story is true, then why not provide any documents that you indeed paid 10,015php thru world remit.
if you can provide the necessary documents to support your claim, then lets talk terms on how you can pay the debt. otherwise, i'll assume that you're cloudina and you'll experience what 2 btc can do to your life.
if your intention to pay is clean and your story is true, then why not provide any documents that you indeed paid 10,015php thru world remit.
if you can provide the necessary documents to support your claim, then lets talk terms on how you can pay the debt. otherwise, i'll assume that you're cloudina and you'll experience what 2 btc can do to your life.
again fine by me. i respect whatever it is you wish as it'll be something i will bring with me in my grave my conscience is clean and i tried talking this out to you.
if your intention was clean from the first place for seeking the loan, then why not provide any documents that can show that you indeed took up culinary lessons.
if your intention to pay is clean and your story is true, then why not provide any documents that you indeed paid 10,015php thru world remit.
if you can provide the necessary documents to support your claim, then lets talk terms on how you can pay the debt. otherwise, i'll assume that you're cloudina and you'll experience what 2 btc can do to your life.
if your intention to pay is clean and your story is true, then why not provide any documents that you indeed paid 10,015php thru world remit.
if you can provide the necessary documents to support your claim, then lets talk terms on how you can pay the debt. otherwise, i'll assume that you're cloudina and you'll experience what 2 btc can do to your life.
Exactly, but he's the one who let this out on public. I don't know what he's done so far. I don't what he's going to do. He did not disclose our names here but then again saying harassing my family would be fun is insane. My debt is mine alone to settle and my family doesnt have any responsibility nor have anything to do with it. You can't blame me for being mad at him coz he's already dragging my family into this which is not fair. He's asking proof, documents and ID's...would you give those to someone you don't persnally know? especially now that he's threatening me and my family? I don't even know what's he's done so far...
if you're going to take a loan from a bank, wouldn't you need to submit ID's and financial statements and other documents? i didn't require you to submit those initially in good faith that you will pay your debt. and i've been kind enough to give you interest free loan? would your sister and mother give you that? if they can, then you wouldn't ask loan from me in the first place. look, i've been overlykind to you, but don't abuse my kindness. running away from loan won't make your life easier.
yes, but I know where is my bank's name and details. anyways again who's running here? the only reason i don't repl is because it's pointless. I don't have the money period. so we can do this like we're doing it right now but when this will end? well from the looks of it your a person who enjoys this kinds of stuff and i don't. again if you're sincere I want your name too..it's time we get to introduce ourselves.
I do respect all your opinions. But whatever it is I think anyone can agree that it is not rightful to drag my family in this drama. I never said I do not wish to pay, I just don't have the money at the moment. Where's scamming with that? I'd take the scammer tag gladly than be someone who destroys family.
thank you all
thank you all
Exactly, but he's the one who let this out on public. I don't know what he's done so far. I don't what he's going to do. He did not disclose our names here but then again saying harassing my family would be fun is insane. My debt is mine alone to settle and my family doesnt have any responsibility nor have anything to do with it. You can't blame me for being mad at him coz he's already dragging my family into this which is not fair. He's asking proof, documents and ID's...would you give those to someone you don't persnally know? especially now that he's threatening me and my family? I don't even know what's he's done so far...
if you're going to take a loan from a bank, wouldn't you need to submit ID's and financial statements and other documents? i didn't require you to submit those initially in good faith that you will pay your debt. and i've been kind enough to give you interest free loan? would your sister and mother give you that? if they can, then you wouldn't ask loan from me in the first place. look, i've been overlykind to you, but don't abuse my kindness. running away from loan won't make your life easier.
CCL, Scammer Tag, Lets make this happen....
I don't need you to believe my story nor I am forcing you to believe me. HTe reason why I don't answer your messages because I feel there's no point in doing that. You already doubted me right. I will not stress out on someone that doesnt believe in me in the first place or I will be just wasting my time. And you referring to my sister just becuase her initials is what I use is simply unbelievable. Do you expect me to think that your real name is close to you alias? You're also right that we haven't met, so how do you expect me to give you documents giving out my identity? And you're saying I am making my family's life miserable? Am not the one's doing it, it is you! I don't need to prove anything to you really. Actually I don't have to be doing this in public and I am simply wasting my time. Atleast you know now my full name, my address. If you're really serious you can start by giving me your full name and address too 
you don't want to pay your debt, and you want to look good by making me look bad. so what do we do now? and tell me why i should be giving out my information. you seemed to misunderstand me, i don't expect you to hand me the documents personally. i mean, you can send the scanned/photographed documents to me thru, or you can post it here if you got the balls
like what's been said many times, when in doubt, ask! that's what i'm doing. i've choosen to believe you initially, but too many things point to not believing your stories.wow, it's more fun in the philippines...
Y'know its up to him. if the party agrees on a compromise or not. Don't take it public, talk to him.
Taking it to public (internet), you are forcing him to take a nuclear approach. which is bad for both sides.
(that's why he didn't disclose your names in the first place, because he knows there is a chance the parties involved can repay the debt).
Note:I dont know what you folks agreed upon. but try to work it out in a civilized manner.
I sound like a person who (nakikisawsaw sa problema ng iba)
Taking it to public (internet), you are forcing him to take a nuclear approach. which is bad for both sides.
(that's why he didn't disclose your names in the first place, because he knows there is a chance the parties involved can repay the debt).
Note:I dont know what you folks agreed upon. but try to work it out in a civilized manner.
I sound like a person who (nakikisawsaw sa problema ng iba)
Exactly, but he's the one who let this out on public. I don't know what he's done so far. I don't what he's going to do. He did not disclose our names here but then again saying harassing my family would be fun is insane. My debt is mine alone to settle and my family doesnt have any responsibility nor have anything to do with it. You can't blame me for being mad at him coz he's already dragging my family into this which is not fair. He's asking proof, documents and ID's...would you give those to someone you don't persnally know? especially now that he's threatening me and my family? I don't even know what's he's done so far...
Geez antagal.. updating my Bitcoin-QT client for 14 days now.
24 weeks left nalang... :O...
24 weeks left nalang... :O...
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