If I choose to preorder and BFL take far longer than what is promised, or acceptable, would they be willing to pay me interest on my funds ? or perhaps offer some sort of partial refund to compensate me for the long wait ?
I still feel that 10+ weeks is far too long for them to have my money and for me to have nothing.
Fair is fair, but at the same time, this definitely straddles at least a few Consumer Protection Laws that might or might not exist (I am not a US Citizen, so I wouldn't know)....
Topic: PirateFly Labs or Butter@40 - You be the judge (Read 2754 times)
Let's build a Company, announce it, take money from users, promise to release it in four to six weeks.......
To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed. From the thread title, I was hoping you were going to argue that Pirate@40 and BFL were conspirators in a gigantic doomsday scheme through cybernetically enhanced bugs, funded by BFL and Pirate, swarming throughout the world, entering computers, and stealing Bitcoin wallets. Now that would have been something.
I'd watch that movie.
To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed. From the thread title, I was hoping you were going to argue that Pirate@40 and BFL were conspirators in a gigantic doomsday scheme through cybernetically enhanced bugs, funded by BFL and Pirate, swarming throughout the world, entering computers, and stealing Bitcoin wallets. Now that would have been something.
Exactly the way I feel.
I thought this was about pirate and BFL being employed by the government shapeshifting alien reptilian overlords from Nibiru Planet X to screw us BTC miners over !
What this bullshit is all about? Close this damn shithole.
Hey, Tarzan....
How about using complete sentences so we all have an easier time trying to figure out what YOUR bullshit is all about ?
And similarly, the choice is yours to "deal" with this "shithole" or simply ignore it. Your opinion changes nothing.
What this bullshit is all about? Close this damn shithole.
Hey, Tarzan....
How about using complete sentences so we all have an easier time trying to figure out what YOUR bullshit is all about ?
What this bullshit is all about? Close this damn shithole.
Hey, Tarzan....
How about using complete sentences so we all have an easier time trying to figure out what YOUR bullshit is all about ?
What this bullshit is all about? Close this damn shithole.
Now, what does that tell you? 
...that I troll BFL because I don't have any BFL hardware ?....LOL (like Pirate trolls don't have Pirate accounts ?...LMAO)
...and both seem NOT INTERESTED in New Clients ?
OMG....
Pirate Pass-Through Bonds = BFL 'Pass-Through-Ass-Rape-3rd-Party-Singles-ReSell-Program-@-50%-Profit' ?
Now that's more like it. Eloquent prose helps me feel less insufficient for browsing web forums on a Friday night. Thanks Bitlane.
So, 'doing the rounds' as I tend to do monthly, I decided to get back in touch with Butterfly Labs in regards to possibly ordering 10 Singles.
To my HORROR (and dismay) I was quoted a 'fair' shipping estimate of 10 weeks from time of Payment receipt.
ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS ? STILL ?
To my HORROR (and dismay) I was quoted a 'fair' shipping estimate of 10 weeks from time of Payment receipt.
ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS ? STILL ?
http://www.butterflylabs.com/pre-order-form/
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Delivery: Units are shipped within four to six weeks from the date of purchase.
They just can't seems to get rid of the never-met 4-6 week promise.
To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed. From the thread title, I was hoping you were going to argue that Pirate@40 and BFL were conspirators in a gigantic doomsday scheme through cybernetically enhanced bugs, funded by BFL and Pirate, swarming throughout the world, entering computers, and stealing Bitcoin wallets. Now that would have been something.
+1
Make your threads more like science fiction allegories and less people will "tl;dr"
And lol at the above
Now, what does that tell you?
...that I troll BFL because I don't have any BFL hardware ?....LOL (like Pirate trolls don't have Pirate accounts ?...LMAO)
...and both seem NOT INTERESTED in New Clients ?
OMG....
Pirate Pass-Through Bonds = BFL 'Pass-Through-Ass-Rape-3rd-Party-Singles-ReSell-Program-@-50%-Profit' ?
Now, what does that tell you?
...that I troll BFL because I don't have any BFL hardware ?....LOL (like Pirate's trolls don't have Pirate savings accounts ?...LMAO)
...and both seem NOT INTERESTED in New Clients ?
To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed. From the thread title, I was hoping you were going to argue that Pirate@40 and BFL were conspirators in a gigantic doomsday scheme through cybernetically enhanced bugs, funded by BFL and Pirate, swarming throughout the world, entering computers, and stealing Bitcoin wallets. Now that would have been something.
No way. Pirate has made me RICH BITCH ! BFL have just made me frustrated.
I know, but man, these forums are my source of Friday night entertainment. The trolling today seems to be just... subpar.
The difference between the two is fairly stark. Pirate's complainers/trolls are people not using his services. BFL's are people who are using their services.
Now, what does that tell you?
To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed. From the thread title, I was hoping you were going to argue that Pirate@40 and BFL were conspirators in a gigantic doomsday scheme through cybernetically enhanced bugs, funded by BFL and Pirate, swarming throughout the world, entering computers, and stealing Bitcoin wallets. Now that would have been something.
No way. Pirate has made me RICH BITCH ! BFL have just made me frustrated.
To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed. From the thread title, I was hoping you were going to argue that Pirate@40 and BFL were conspirators in a gigantic doomsday scheme through cybernetically enhanced bugs, funded by BFL and Pirate, swarming throughout the world, entering computers, and stealing Bitcoin wallets. Now that would have been something.
Cmon, Singles are dead already, why are you interested in these bricks still?
I figured I'd have a better shot at acquiring Singles (being a ?current? production item) rather than waiting for the next Product to be dreamed up and 'Launched'....
A few 'old school' (as in Father-Sarcasm) sayings come to mind:
- Don't hold your breathe.....
- Don't hold your hand over your asshole...
-...
You have to admit, from a Company Pride standpoint, it must make BFL extremely proud to be the butt of nearly every 'time' and shipping joke on the forum as well as a financial joke overall 'round these parts.
No one ever doubted their product (OK, well, a few people did)....but everything else about them is simply comical at best. I mean, you can't even get mad anymore.
It's easier to just have a good laugh at their expense, since they seem to be running their production lines at YOURS....
Cmon, Singles are dead already, why are you interested in these bricks still?
I figured I'd have a better shot at acquiring Singles (being a ?current? production item) rather than waiting for the next Product to be dreamed up and 'Launched'....
A few 'old school' (as in Father-Sarcasm) sayings come to mind:
- Don't hold your breathe.....
- Don't hold your hand over your asshole...
-...
You have to admit, from a Company Pride standpoint, it must make BFL extremely proud to be the butt of nearly every 'time' and shipping joke on the forum as well as a financial joke overall 'round these parts.
No one ever doubted their product (OK, well, a few people did)....but everything else about them is simply comical at best. I mean, you can't even get mad anymore.
It's easier to just have a good laugh at their expense, since they seem to be running their production lines at YOURS....
So, 'doing the rounds' as I tend to do monthly, I decided to get back in touch with Butterfly Labs in regards to possibly ordering 10 Singles.
To my HORROR (and dismay) I was quoted a 'fair' shipping estimate of 10 weeks from time of Payment receipt.
ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS ? STILL ?
Short of sending them a reply to the email that I received (that I pray could explode hot-acid onto the face of the person reading it) I decided to 'run a few numbers'.....
Let's call BTC a $6 shoe-in currently, or better yet, let's call a BFL Single a 100 BTC proposition.
They want 1,000 of my BTC for 10 weeks, even THEN with no promise of delivery ?
We all know that if BFL quotes 10, then it must be more like 14-16 weeks realistically.
So, let's call it 10. 10 Weeks, with me starving my BTCST Account of 1,000 BTC.
During those 10 weeks, that 1,000 BTC stands to generate 56 BTC (on the first week) per week+ at medium interest (5.6%.....and of course, I would simply let it compound).
So, Week#1 of my 1,000 BTC generating 56 BTC profit, leads all the way up to week#10, at which time the initial 1,000 BTC would be worth just shy of 1,750 BTC.
With THAT in mind, I have to ask....
Does ButterFly Labs have a Pirate Savings Account that they leverage as part of their Business Profit Model ?
(along with mining for 10 weeks with the proposed 10 Singles, generating an additional 35-odd BTC per week on 8,500MH/s, while the 10 units are being 'tested')
So, to summarize:
- 10 BFL Singles @ 1,000 BTC
- 10 Week Pirate Savings Investment @ 5.6% Weekly = 1,750 BTC
- Additional 350 BTC Mined while units are 'burned-in' (8,500 MH/s 10 Week PPS estimate)
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2,100 BTC / 10 = 210 BTC Per Unit, Delivered.
Cmon, Singles are dead already, why are you interested in these bricks still? To my HORROR (and dismay) I was quoted a 'fair' shipping estimate of 10 weeks from time of Payment receipt.
ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS ? STILL ?
Short of sending them a reply to the email that I received (that I pray could explode hot-acid onto the face of the person reading it) I decided to 'run a few numbers'.....
Let's call BTC a $6 shoe-in currently, or better yet, let's call a BFL Single a 100 BTC proposition.
They want 1,000 of my BTC for 10 weeks, even THEN with no promise of delivery ?
We all know that if BFL quotes 10, then it must be more like 14-16 weeks realistically.
So, let's call it 10. 10 Weeks, with me starving my BTCST Account of 1,000 BTC.
During those 10 weeks, that 1,000 BTC stands to generate 56 BTC (on the first week) per week+ at medium interest (5.6%.....and of course, I would simply let it compound).
So, Week#1 of my 1,000 BTC generating 56 BTC profit, leads all the way up to week#10, at which time the initial 1,000 BTC would be worth just shy of 1,750 BTC.
With THAT in mind, I have to ask....
Does ButterFly Labs have a Pirate Savings Account that they leverage as part of their Business Profit Model ?
(along with mining for 10 weeks with the proposed 10 Singles, generating an additional 35-odd BTC per week on 8,500MH/s, while the 10 units are being 'tested')
So, to summarize:
- 10 BFL Singles @ 1,000 BTC
- 10 Week Pirate Savings Investment @ 5.6% Weekly = 1,750 BTC
- Additional 350 BTC Mined while units are 'burned-in' (8,500 MH/s 10 Week PPS estimate)
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2,100 BTC / 10 = 210 BTC Per Unit, Delivered.
We were all waiting for ASIC announcement today....
Great....another product that they will fail miserably at delivering in a timely fashion....
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