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December 24, 2020, 06:46:48 AM
#13

For your work to be as clean as possible, your plagiarism ratio should not be above 10% - 12%
Well you made some valid points, but a project can't be considered plagiarism anymore after a citations and reference has been careful made/taken, and also distincting your original work from that gotten from other source.
legendary
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December 24, 2020, 02:57:28 AM
#12
As I have seen some papers got 10% plagiarism where people start calling them scammer, I think Less than 15% plagiarism should be allowed [which is allowed worldwide] as there are many cases where one can not change some terms, as if they do they'll completely change the meaning.
Problem with an average whitepaper we see here is not that few terms here and there are copied, but whole sentences, paragraphs and sometimes even pages are copied word for word from someone else, and for that there is no excuse. But even if they just copied few sentences, how hard is to include reference? For example, it can be done in an unobtrusive way, like in Bitcoin whitepaper.

I simply do not trust those that are not capable of writing their own whitepaper without proper referencing. In best case scenario they are just ignorant and negligent, while in reality they are deceitful and dishonest. Neither is good and will most likely cause people loose money.
 
By the way, do you have some specific case in mind when you are talking about percentages, as I know that you are creating ANN threads for various projects?


For your work to be as clean as possible, your plagiarism ratio should not be above 10% - 12%
Well, for your work to be as clean as possible, plagiarism rate should be at 0%, and that means that you cited every source used, and you made clear distinction between your own words and what you took from the others. So just verbatim copying something and sharing links at the end isn't proper way either.

Similarity index is another story, and there we can talk about percentages and what is good and what is not.
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December 24, 2020, 02:31:23 AM
#11
If you remember 2018, then all projects that posted the INS on this forum were checked for fraud. This has become the norm today. This forum is famous for the fact that a project containing white paper plagiarism is difficult to pass off as an honest project. Therefore, I have noticed many times that those who create an explicit scam project do not even try to be announced here.

But to say that if a technical document contains a small percentage of plagiarism, it is called a scammer and negative tags are left for it, is also not entirely true. Lately, I've only come across warnings about this.
The development of projects should be carried out by experienced people who should take into account all the points, including those that include the competent development of technical documentation, as well as a road map describing all stages of formation.

Often, plagiarism occurs where organizers are in a hurry, do not care about quality, as a rule, make a lot of mistakes.
What impression can a project make of itself, which was created “On its knees”, in two or three months, the team has no previous experience, and has a copied document?
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December 24, 2020, 01:05:29 AM
#10
There are no percentage when it comes to plagiarism. If you copy on someone's work without his or her consent and you make it on your own regardless on how much information that came from other ideas you are using it still an act of plagiarizing. It can be allowed if you credited the one who had that idea and avoid owning it as yours and the author consented the use of the ideas.
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December 23, 2020, 11:00:39 PM
#9
Plagiarism in whitepaper? What forum has to do with it? I mean this shouldn’t be posted in meta, maybe altcoin service discussion.

Now, we should know what exactly a whitepaper is.
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A white paper is an authoritative report or guide that informs readers concisely about a complex issue and presents the issuing body's philosophy on the matter. It is meant to help readers understand an issue, solve a problem, or make a decision.
source- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper

You are going to talk about a particular issue, details of your project. How can that be filled with exactly same texts from other whitepaper. Well, there are some texts which can't be changed. They can be presented with enough references of course.
legendary
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December 23, 2020, 09:49:33 PM
#8
no idea is new

I can't say I'm on board with how you've phrase this, but you do raise a point that is interesting to me. It's quite often that people in my everyday life have said a full sentence to me that I remember hearing verbatim from a movie, newscast, etc. I don't think these people do it with malicious intent, but there is an impressive lack of unique thoughts.

your plagiarism ratio should not be above 10% - 12%

Surely it isn't as simple as a percentage or a ratio.
The more complex a sentence, idea or paragraph is, the more significant (and representative of plagiarism) each percentage becomes in that ratio.
hero member
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December 23, 2020, 09:45:59 PM
#7
I don't know if there is already a conversation about How much percentage of plagiarism should be allowed to different projects in their Whiteperp/ litepaper or whatever they call it. I would like to initiate this topic here. As I have seen some papers got 10% plagiarism where people start calling them scammer, I think Less than 15% plagiarism should be allowed [which is allowed worldwide] as there are many cases where one can not change some terms, as if they do they'll completely change the meaning. But they also should copy someone else's paper and just remove the plagiarism, which should be strictly not allowed. What is your opinion about plagiarism and how much should be allowed in what cases?
Copyrights need to be learnt before people want to create their projects and write their Whitepaper. They can not blame on anything, any reason that why they copy and paste but skip the source. Even they are living in nations where copyrights are not protected by laws and governments. I know the copyrights is applicable globally but there are nations where governments don't care to spend their human resources to protect the rights.

It is bad in morality to copy and paste other works and use it for your financial incentives but ignore the original authors.

Could you tell me where did you get the 15% of plagiarism is accepted, please.

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Q: What is the acceptable percentage of plagiarism report?

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There is a lack of consensus or clear-cut-rules on what percentage of plagiarism is acceptable in a manuscript. Going by the convention, usually a text similarity below 15% is acceptable by the journals and a similarity of >25% is considered as high percentage of plagiarism.

But even in case of 15% similarity, if the matching text is one continuous block of borrowed material, it will be considered as plagiarized text of significant concern. On the other hand, text similarity due to the usage of common terminologies and method related details in ‘Methodology’ part of a manuscript should not raise a serious ethical concern.
https://www.editage.com/insights/what-is-the-acceptable-percentage-of-plagiarism-report
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December 23, 2020, 07:46:21 PM
#6
@ OP to be honest, the world it self is more of plagiarism, the words we speak, the air we breath, the food we eat etc...
There's absolutely nothing new in the world, we are just rephrasing and rebranding each of these things.

There's no way you will do any work today or write an article that you will not find something similar to what  someone else has done years back, even without you not  been aware of it even before you started your work.
This is why it is requested that before and after your work, do some findings to know those that have previously did something similar to your work, and do a citation on it.

No matter how smart you are, there most always be an atom of plagiarism in your work, this is because no idea is new, we're only rebranding the already existing ones.

For your work to be as clean as possible, your plagiarism ratio should not be above 10% - 12%
legendary
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December 23, 2020, 04:09:04 PM
#5
I think I do recall this issue coming up before, but it's been a while.

I'd say one complete sentence that isn't just comprised of common phrases/sentiments, e.g., "Hey man, I appreciate the work you did on X" should be enough to be plagiarism if a source isn't cited.  And probably if the sentence came from some other site or wherever and the likelihood of someone just mistakenly writing it from memory.  It's a bit tricky, isn't it? 

Fortunately, most plagiarism that we see on bitcointalk is blatant and is usually a pattern on the part of the plagiarist because they're trying to write something in a language they don't really know.  Aside from text spinning, usually what we get here are straight-up copy/paste jobs that can be discovered with Google.
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December 23, 2020, 03:49:03 PM
#4
If they feel they can't change some terms or definitions then what is hard about citing the source?

I think the percentage doesn't matter, plagiarism remains plagiarism. The fact that they decide to copy and paste minus giving credit to the source means that they are dishonest.
Going by the percentage, If a project has a 50-Page white paper and 15% it is plagiarized (7.5 Pages). Do you think it is fair to overlook such?

I would go with citations. If they copy/page -first still they'll have to remove the plagiarism and still needs to cite from where they took that part and credit them otherwise this should comes under the fraud category.

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If a project has a 50-Page white paper and 15% it is plagiarized (7.5 Pages). Do you think it is fair to overlook such?

It's a percentage that is worldwide accepted only if they use citations.
legendary
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December 23, 2020, 03:44:02 PM
#3
Plagiarism is the sense of inadequacy and evidence of scam, a project supposed to be completely free of spam or plagiarism. If I read a project and see any plagiarism, I will simply just believe it is not safe and should not be followed. Most of the scam projects are plagiarized because many scammers do not want to have their time for writing such but plagiarising from other sources, if a project follow the way, then it is likely a scam.
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December 23, 2020, 03:42:51 PM
#2
If they feel they can't change some terms or definitions then what is hard about citing the source?

I think the percentage doesn't matter, plagiarism remains plagiarism. The fact that they decide to copy and paste minus giving credit to the source means that they are dishonest.
Going by the percentage, If a project has a 50-Page white paper and 15% it is plagiarized (7.5 Pages). Do you think it is fair to overlook such?
legendary
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December 23, 2020, 03:29:53 PM
#1
I don't know if there is already a conversation about How much percentage of plagiarism should be allowed to different projects in their Whiteperp/ litepaper or whatever they call it. I would like to initiate this topic here. As I have seen some papers got 10% plagiarism where people start calling them scammer, I think Less than 15% plagiarism should be allowed [which is allowed worldwide] as there are many cases where one can not change some terms, as if they do they'll completely change the meaning. But they also should copy someone else's paper and just remove the plagiarism, which should be strictly not allowed. What is your opinion about plagiarism and how much should be allowed in what cases?
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