Topic: Plagiarized Whitepaper - MEMV MetaMallVerse (Read 406 times)

He is aware of it, we talked via PM about the issue.

 
Since they showed no remorse or willingness to sort out the whitepaper (and other plagiarized content), I don't see how that campaign could be reopened.

As well as no foreseeable fulfillment of what they promised here, or perhaps I have a different definition and understanding of "near future"



I certainly hope it'll happen way before their last day of ICO... which is next week, as I can't see what's so difficult about having a webinar or live stream AMA session if they have a real professionals in their office, or home-office, or wherever they are, which according to their roadmap, would happen this month.

I even peeked at MEMV's TG group to see if it's already happened and we simply didn't notice, but what I found is... well, if I have to be honest, it doesn't look good. Chat are filled with chat bots and repetitive messages with bare minimum engagement and shill-like chats



They're currently on their 4th and final ICO rounds, and I can't find any info on how much they managed to sell from all of the previous rounds, it doesn't seems to be published anywhere other than the vague self-announced report; 65M/100M from R1 and 11M/150M in R2. And they're currently in final talk with bitmart.


I hope that he does, and the reason why the campaign is suspended is due to this findings, as his message on his TG group indicated that he's trying to get to the bottom of the unexpected issue.

FYI, I believe Royse saw this thread (Maybe not), and he suspended the round 2 Campaign.


This is a good step for him. Let's see if their team change anything and comes up again or not.

Tehnically it is allowed to run a bounty for a project that plagiarized whitepaper/had fake team members or any of the other major red flags because scams on bitcointalk are not moderated. Thing is, by doing that you are risking your reputation and getting tagged by other members.

I can't speak for other DT members, but unless Royse777 doesn't stop their bounty campaign, he can expect getting tagged by me but I do hope it won't come to that.

Yes, this is a big red flag and definitely something to be cautious of. I did some more research and it's pretty clear that this project has not only plagiarized their whitepaper, but their website^[1] as well. A lot of the content seems to have been copied from the medium article of the Cypherdog project^[2].




Original source: https://medium.com/@e.kozera/what-makes-cypherdog-stand-out-a2149ae6e471

This is an unacceptable act and a blatant violation of intellectual property^[3], and raises serious concerns about the credibility of the project. Anyone considering investing or becoming involved with this project should be aware that it has engaged in such a dishonest and unethical behavior.

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[1] https://memv.net/
[2] https://www.cypher.dog/
[3] https://www.cypher.dog/terms-of-service/

Is it allow to Run a bounty for project which already catch up stealing data from other project? Many compaign manager was tagged previously for only one reason that they run compaign for scam project and reason of scam was just plagiarism of Whitepaper . If it allow then remove tag from all old Bounty managers.

Since they responded to this thread right after the accusation, I thought it was a positive side. Because almost no team reacts to such charges, I thought they would come up with a new whitepaper which they've mentioned. But this is not the case here. This is the red flag. They already got three negative feedback from the DT network. Not sure if they will respond further.

Jesus, I would have done a great job for you for a reasonable price and would offer that service to any project that isn't a blatant scam or just a money-grab.  Even though I would have predicted a 99.99% failure for this idea (it looks like eBay, only in some metaverse, and you better believe a big corporation is going to make that happen if there's interest) I probably would have done it.

You can't tell me there aren't proofreaders/editors for things like this.  Putting out a whitepaper is no small thing if you're serious about your project....but if it's a scam or a cash-grab, this is the shit that happens.

It's been a month since this scam accusation was first made, but nothing has changed. Their website still has a link to the same plagiarized whitepaper and there's still no information about their team, despite what MetaMallVerse promised.


MetaMallVerse, it's been several weeks and it seems that you haven't kept your word. Can you please explain what has been happening with your project and your team? It is very important to be transparent with your community and stakeholders. Your failure to deliver on your promises is a serious concern.

FYI, there's been a bounty campaign going on from the day one (for more than a month) hosted by Royse777. Did anyone warned him about the existence of this scam accusation topic? Anyway, I just sent him a PM and lets see what he has to say about it.

Bounty campaign round 1
Bounty campaign round 2

Thank you for your kind words. Even before getting this flag we already announced at our ANN that we made a mistake and lesson learned. I just wished the other people here who are puking hate would use much better language than you did but they did not. Language is very important, not need to talk from the top of the mountains, friendly warnings do much better. Anyways, we keep working. Once again thank you so much for your kind words & wishes!

The tags will definitely be removed if you do the right thing, because we are not here to keep our stance only but will also look forward to your part whether you serve what you said, or not.
Even if you didn't do it purposefully, this should serve as a lesson to upcoming projects who will hire writers for the themselves, especially the whitepaper part which serves as a pitch to attract your investor. We wish you good luck finding a better writer who will serve you with what you want, rather than copy-pasting someone else's work. And good luck for the success of your project as well, we hope you come out as not guilty in this case. 👍

It's completely OK guys. No negative feedback will make us stop. We are very dedicated to reaching our goals and making our project a very good platform. Now of course you don't want me to compare the TEAM Photo thing with the PIVX and other projects, because you know very well there are hundreds of successful projects who give Avatars as the team photos and only Telegram or Discord contacts. So your claims are blah blah here. Because PHOTO nor TEAM is not a must and many projects do not even have it while they are very successful.

And no. I refuse to come to this topic and beg for you to withdraw the unfair negative feedback you left.
You guys may follow the project and withdraw it when you see it necessary (If you are really honest about being community police).

PS: Coin-investor you gave a good idea which we will do 100% in the near future. So my words are not for you.

Flag supported I have also left negative feedback.

To the MetaMallVerse, if you still decide to run the entire project professionally and transparently, feel free to contact us here ^{on this topic} and present all the improvements you will bring. I will be happy to consider withdrawing the negative feedback.
until then, this will only be considered a scam attempt. there is no need to compare any other project because this is about trust in yours.

Was giving them a benefit of doubts and waiting for them to prove that they're legit by showing us their team, but their latest answer below clearly shows they're 100% entitled for doubt. Flag is now raised and updated on the opening post.


Three weeks? By then, your token sale is already over, you expect people to invest on you first before you show any sign of what a legit project possess, e.g.: original WP and/or clear team details? And why would it need that long? I thought you didn't write your own WP and had to --I'll pretend you did hire someone instead of caught red handed-- "resort to a freelancer" simply because English is not your native language, wouldn't that means you could just whip your already prepared draft and have someone to translate them for you in matter of hours?

And for NO TEAM that rock for a long time, can you please give us an example of one which also "outsourced" their WP and caught plagiarizes many materials?

A project who hired a content writer to write their document because "they-didn't-speak-English-although-their-replies-here-are-damn-near-perfect" are questionable, a project that's also not bothering to spend several minutes to proofread their materials are double questionable and deserve a flag right away, but that's my owm view, and I tried to give you a benefit of doubt. But certainly we have to protect the benefits of many, i.e.: your future investors, especially as you planned to prove your legitimacy only after the token sale is long over. So, in the name of Krampus and Ho-Ho-Ho, here's a flag, and a tag.

Really since you got busted for plagiarizing your whitepaper let's see if you can be truthful about the composition of your team, you can do this by holding a webinar with all of your team presence and answering questions about your project or you can do a video of all of you, I have seen projects doing this holding a webinar and having a video of their meet up, although it's not a gurantee that the project is good and worth investing at least, you can prove that you are not faking this time.

You can expect the second version of the whitepaper by the second week of January. As long as they will have LinkedIn links with real information, it's not a problem to use avatars I think. It does not mean we will use avatars but that's my own view. I can point you to more than 50 projects that have their team with avatars and/or with NO TEAM they rock for a long time (ie. PIVX).

if you really have a team, I believe that it is not a problem for at least some of the members to be announced publicly. however, I can't find any information about it, either in ANN or on your website. considering your propensity for plagiarism, you cannot be trusted to say that this team really exists.
as the token sale process is ongoing, more accurate information and honesty are a must.

holydarkness, you still haven't created a flag?

Very nice. When can we expect this hopefully-not-plagiarized-anymore whitepaper v.2.0? It's worth mentioning that you're currently having your crowdsale running, people would need that important document before they could --and should-- consider and weighting if it's on their best interest to put their egg on your basket. I'll boldly assume these team will have transparent identity, real pic, etc. and not the good-old cartoonish avatar of your team?

Of course, we have a team and you will meet with them at the second version of the Whitepaper. We did not add their names at version 1 because we are still forming the official structure of the team.