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Topic: Plain and clear, so you can easily understand the dangers of the vaccine. (Read 172 times)

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Dangerous or not ,the fact is that you need to be vaccinated in order to fly,shop in the mall, go to the theatre and so on... At first it was by choise,but now its a must to have.Even those who already have the antibodies after a certain period of time (i think was 6 months) should be vaccinated too .

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Do i need to be experimented on no. If the corrupt politician think to split the world in half, is the way to go, so be it.
Freedom lovers will win in the end because someone told to do will never spend as much energie as someone voluntary want to do something.
legendary
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In the USA, final governmental control is with the local people. Most of them don't know it. And, it is usually local, often on a person to person basis. Also, there are a load of ways to implement it. How does it work? It's call the local 12-person jury.

If you check with the people of the USA, a good segment of the population is in favor of the vaccine, and a large segment is against. Either segment will have to do what people always do. They will have to get together, and use the jury to outlaw the the mandates of the other group, at least for specified individuals, or for locals. But they can only do it for themselves and their group. However, this is the final step when required. There are many steps in between.

The in-between steps have to do with State governors, and even State legislatures, overstepping their authority. Governor Newsom of California messed with the people so much that there is a two-million, signed petition for his recall... only 1.5 million is required to get it on a ballot. The people might move slowly, but when they move, they can't be stopped.

In addition, regarding the jury, Net search on Ammon Bundy, and the wildlife refuge in Oregon. Ammon and others took over a federal wildlife refuge with guns. Most of the members of this group made deals with the prosecutor, and received prison sentences. Ammon and his brother didn't make deals, and were found not guilty by the jury... twice.

The people are just barely starting to move legally and lawfully. All the marching and protests are simply requests by the people for government to do it willingly, at their request. Newsom in CA is the people starting to move legally. There are legal actions being take against Cuomo in NY as well.

first of all the court jury tactic. wont change laws.
as you said they used a petition against statesmen.. not a jury

as for the ammon bundy.. he may have given the order but he stood back and let his stupid idiot minions do the work. knowing that the work was illegal. and so only the minions got caught
much like trump. he said lets walk to the capital and fight... but he didnt walk.. he stepped back and went home and then denied he had any involvement

so goodluck trying to get a jury to change a law. goodluck trying to get a jury to find an organiser that hid away..


The jury definitely can and does change laws for the person on trial. Such is exactly what happened with Ammon Bundy and his brother.

You are misspeaking about Ammon Bundy. He was right in there doing everything right along with his buddies. They all knew what they were doing. When you check the trial records, Ammon and his brother decided on trial by jury. The others voluntarily made plea deals with government. They all had the option either way.

Changing the law for the Bundys was what the jury did. The same might not work for you and me in the exact same circumstance. It depends on the jury. However, if enough juries across the country give the same verdict on the same thing, it will become precedent. But it is a judgmental thing. Nobody can say that things will change just because a certain number of juries adjudicated it that way.

It's the same in the UK. The difference is the process. Your best bet in the UK is to have enough guts to stand as a man at Queen's Bench... with a jury, of course. To be fair, when a judge is locked into a position by law where he can't do anything other than give you a good verdict, use him rather than the jury.

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legendary
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Get the shot. Your life will change forever. Can't be reversed by any means known... ever. Possibly, in the future, people who get the shot now, will be excluded from society, like the lepers in Bible times.



Unfortunately You don't have choice but to be vaccinated. You can't travel to other country unless you are vaccinated. Sooner all the offices will make it mandatory for all the employee to be vaccinated. Government will make it compulsory for all the citizens to get vaccinated in the later stage.

How can you avoid it  Huh

In the USA, final governmental control is with the local people. Most of them don't know it. And, it is usually local, often on a person to person basis. Also, there are a load of ways to implement it. How does it work? It's call the local 12-person jury.

If you check with the people of the USA, a good segment of the population is in favor of the vaccine, and a large segment is against. Either segment will have to do what people always do. They will have to get together, and use the jury to outlaw the the mandates of the other group, at least for specified individuals, or for locals. But they can only do it for themselves and their group. However, this is the final step when required. There are many steps in between.

The in-between steps have to do with State governors, and even State legislatures, overstepping their authority. Governor Newsom of California messed with the people so much that there is a two-million, signed petition for his recall... only 1.5 million is required to get it on a ballot. The people might move slowly, but when they move, they can't be stopped.

In addition, regarding the jury, Net search on Ammon Bundy, and the wildlife refuge in Oregon. Ammon and others took over a federal wildlife refuge with guns. Most of the members of this group made deals with the prosecutor, and received prison sentences. Ammon and his brother didn't make deals, and were found not guilty by the jury... twice.

The people are just barely starting to move legally and lawfully. All the marching and protests are simply requests by the people for government to do it willingly, at their request. Newsom in CA is the people starting to move legally. There are legal actions being take against Cuomo in NY as well.

first of all the court jury tactic. wont change laws.
as you said they used a petition against statesmen.. not a jury

as for the ammon bundy.. he may have given the order but he stood back and let his stupid idiot minions do the work. knowing that the work was illegal. and so only the minions got caught
much like trump. he said lets walk to the capital and fight... but he didnt walk.. he stepped back and went home and then denied he had any involvement

so goodluck trying to get a jury to change a law. goodluck trying to get a jury to find an organiser that hid away..
legendary
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I like your point of view.
Why people should trust the entire scientific community that can prove experiment and claims, peer review etc etc?
Sure it's more logic trust a totally uncommon and illiterate stranger that is talking on youtube!  Roll Eyes


The medical hasn't and can't prove their claims regarding the safety and efficacy of the vaccine (really, any vaccine - autism). All they have done is proven that they can sell you on something by saying sweet, happy words that you like to hear. That's what the video in the OP is about. No skin off my nose when you do what you want.

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legendary
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I like your point of view.
Why people should trust the entire scientific community that can prove experiment and claims, peer review etc etc?
Sure it's more logic trust a totally uncommon and illiterate stranger that is talking on youtube!  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3906
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Get the shot. Your life will change forever. Can't be reversed by any means known... ever. Possibly, in the future, people who get the shot now, will be excluded from society, like the lepers in Bible times.



Unfortunately You don't have choice but to be vaccinated. You can't travel to other country unless you are vaccinated. Sooner all the offices will make it mandatory for all the employee to be vaccinated. Government will make it compulsory for all the citizens to get vaccinated in the later stage.

How can you avoid it  Huh

In the USA, final governmental control is with the local people. Most of them don't know it. And, it is usually local, often on a person to person basis. Also, there are a load of ways to implement it. How does it work? It's call the local 12-person jury.

If you check with the people of the USA, a good segment of the population is in favor of the vaccine, and a large segment is against. Either segment will have to do what people always do. They will have to get together, and use the jury to outlaw the the mandates of the other group, at least for specified individuals, or for locals. But they can only do it for themselves and their group. However, this is the final step when required. There are many steps in between.

The in-between steps have to do with State governors, and even State legislatures, overstepping their authority. Governor Newsom of California messed with the people so much that there is a two-million, signed petition for his recall... only 1.5 million is required to get it on a ballot. The people might move slowly, but when they move, they can't be stopped.

In addition, regarding the jury, Net search on Ammon Bundy, and the wildlife refuge in Oregon. Ammon and others took over a federal wildlife refuge with guns. Most of the members of this group made deals with the prosecutor, and received prison sentences. Ammon and his brother didn't make deals, and were found not guilty by the jury... twice.

The people are just barely starting to move legally and lawfully. All the marching and protests are simply requests by the people for government to do it willingly, at their request. Newsom in CA is the people starting to move legally. There are legal actions being take against Cuomo in NY as well.

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^^^ Wrong! Correlation has been proven.     Cool

Let me guess, there is a video on youtube that proves it?

Actually, there are lots of videos. Some are on Youtube, others one of the competing video sites. However, it seems to be your density that keeps you from looking at the information.

The simple proof exists with the loads of people who had healthy children until the kids were vaccinated. Then, overnight after being vaccinated, the kids became retarded or worse. There are people and groups all over the place who are expressing this "coincidence" between vaccines and retardation. Net search for it. But go here to listen to a whole bunch of stories - https://cdautism.org/.

A lawsuit was won against the CDC, for them to take down the wording that viruses don't cause autism. The reason was that the CDC couldn't come up with even one study that proved it. So, they took the wording off their website. Then, a few days later, they put the wording back up, in defiance of the court order. If you want to see this, go to https://www.icandecide.org/ and look it up, or request it from them. Why get this info? So that you can go to court sites and look it ip for yourself.

You might say that none of this is proof that vaccines cause autism. But the truth is that nobody has to say that they accept anything as proof, even when the proof stares them right in the face.

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Summary, please. I'm not going to watch a 25-minute video. - The summary is in the first, bolded words of the OP.

Unfortunately You don't have choice but to be vaccinated. You can't travel to other country unless you are vaccinated. Sooner all the offices will make it mandatory for all the employee to be vaccinated. Government will make it compulsory for all the citizens to get vaccinated in the later stage.

How can you avoid it  Huh

That is the problem, they are not going to make the vaccine mandatory but you will not be able to do anything if you don't get it, so in practice it will be mandatory.


Actually, that's simply the loudest blab. In America, the vaccine will never be mandatory. Most people don't know how to fight for their rights. If they did, there would be 90% fewer people in prison. But their rights are that vaccines can never be mandatory across the board.

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An important question i have to ask is, for those who have developed a natural immunity against the virus, is a vaccine still necessary?

Covid might be a plague. We don't know for sure that it exists, because it looks too similar to bad influenza to be certain about it. Most doctors and nurses are simply trusting their superiors that Covid is real.

The thing that we know is that the vaccine is real. If you watch the video in the OP, and search for others like it, you will be able to tell that the vaccine is possibly bringing the greatest plague the world has ever seen, right on all the people who think that it is saving them.

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^^^ Wrong! Correlation has been proven.     Cool

^^^ Wrong! No correlation. Note the 'financial conflicts of interest' element, which is common to a lot of these conspiracy theories (see also, climate change denial).

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The widespread fear that vaccines increase risk of autism originated with a 1997 study published by Andrew Wakefield, a British surgeon. The article was published in The Lancet, a prestigious medical journal, suggesting that the measles, mumps, rubella (MMR) vaccine was increasing autism in British children.

The paper has since been completely discredited due to serious procedural errors, undisclosed financial conflicts of interest, and ethical violations. Andrew Wakefield lost his medical license and the paper was retracted from The Lancet.

Nonetheless, the hypothesis was taken seriously, and several other major studies were conducted. None of them found a link between any vaccine and the likelihood of developing autism.
https://www.publichealth.org/public-awareness/understanding-vaccines/vaccine-myths-debunked/

Look here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/plain-and-clear-so-you-can-easily-understand-the-dangers-of-the-vaccine-5323745 to see that there are loads of other places to look, and loads of ways to consider proof.

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Vaccine is a recommendable method to get rid of diseases or global pandemic per say, though base on individual differences,to me l think it is normal thing for one to get his/herself vaccinating in order to develop a strong immune system against any pandemic that may rise in degree of its destructive potential in a particular society, WHO is a popular organisation that control global health sector,so when issues like this come into play the life of every citizenry is at stake globally,so it is advisable to adhere to the directives and guidelines issue out from the organisation, We should give them that benefit of doubts because it is the only organisation that was setup to checkmates global pandemic especially when the influence is dangerous.

Imagine that you have a $billion dollars. Also, imagine that you have a completely healthy life.

Now suppose you have a choice. Give your $billion to the medical to keep it for you. Or, give your life to the medical to keep IT for you.

You might invest in medical companies with your $billion. But if the medical companies all flop for some reason, you still have your healthy life so that you can start over.

But if you turn over your healthy life to the medical and they flop, you lose your life, and your $billion. Better check them out before investing your life, a whole lot better than you might check them out regarding medical $investments.

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Vaccine is a recommendable method to get rid of diseases or global pandemic per say, though base on individual differences,to me l think it is normal thing for one to get his/herself vaccinating in order to develop a strong immune system against any pandemic that may rise in degree of its destructive potential in a particular society, WHO is a popular organisation that control global health sector,so when issues like this come into play the life of every citizenry is at stake globally,so it is advisable to adhere to the directives and guidelines issue out from the organisation, We should give them that benefit of doubts because it is the only organisation that was setup to checkmates global pandemic especially when the influence is dangerous.
legendary
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they are not making vaccines mandatory.
no one is going to be arrested at their front door by military for refusing

countries will relax restrictions based on statistics of hospitalisation numbers.. not based on tattooing people individually who have had the vaccine and give them open-access. whilst imprisoning people without a tattoo

please can you idiots get out of fiction/fantasy and start actually looking at reality

you dont have to fear
military threats of arrest/death unless you obey
bidens 4th july only applying to vaccinated people
borisj's summer opening only applying to vaccinated people

if you dont want the vaccine. just say no. but then dont be an idiot licking strangers faces trying to force high viral load infection on yourself. if anything think about your own safety and strategies to minimise the load you may inhale when in public. less load=less severity
legendary
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the autism and vaccines correlation proved to be nonexistent  Undecided

^^^ Wrong! Correlation has been proven.     Cool

^^^ Wrong! No correlation. Note the 'financial conflicts of interest' element, which is common to a lot of these conspiracy theories (see also, climate change denial).

Quote
The widespread fear that vaccines increase risk of autism originated with a 1997 study published by Andrew Wakefield, a British surgeon. The article was published in The Lancet, a prestigious medical journal, suggesting that the measles, mumps, rubella (MMR) vaccine was increasing autism in British children.

The paper has since been completely discredited due to serious procedural errors, undisclosed financial conflicts of interest, and ethical violations. Andrew Wakefield lost his medical license and the paper was retracted from The Lancet.

Nonetheless, the hypothesis was taken seriously, and several other major studies were conducted. None of them found a link between any vaccine and the likelihood of developing autism.
https://www.publichealth.org/public-awareness/understanding-vaccines/vaccine-myths-debunked/
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An important question i have to ask is, for those who have developed a natural immunity against the virus, is a vaccine still necessary?
legendary
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Summary, please. I'm not going to watch a 25-minute video.

Unfortunately You don't have choice but to be vaccinated. You can't travel to other country unless you are vaccinated. Sooner all the offices will make it mandatory for all the employee to be vaccinated. Government will make it compulsory for all the citizens to get vaccinated in the later stage.

How can you avoid it  Huh

That is the problem, they are not going to make the vaccine mandatory but you will not be able to do anything if you don't get it, so in practice it will be mandatory.

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^^^ Wrong! Correlation has been proven.     Cool

Let me guess, there is a video on youtube that proves it?
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Get the shot. Your life will change forever. Can't be reversed by any means known... ever. Possibly, in the future, people who get the shot now, will be excluded from society, like the lepers in Bible times.



Unfortunately You don't have choice but to be vaccinated. You can't travel to other country unless you are vaccinated. Sooner all the offices will make it mandatory for all the employee to be vaccinated. Government will make it compulsory for all the citizens to get vaccinated in the later stage.

How can you avoid it  Huh
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^^^ Wrong! Correlation has been proven.     Cool
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Dr. Sherri Tenpenny

This women is someone that believes vaccines cause autism and is a staunch supporter of the anti-vax movement. If I had to guess, I'd also assume she would think the COVID vaccine isn't too safe based on her prior beliefs. Too bad the autism and vaccines correlation proved to be nonexistent  Undecided
legendary
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Get the shot. Your life will change forever. Can't be reversed by any means known... ever. Possibly, in the future, people who get the shot now, will be excluded from society, like the lepers in Bible times.

Video is on Youtube. So, watch and download soon. We never know when Youtube might take it down.


Shot in the Dark | Dr. Sherri Tenpenny



Dr. Sherri Tenpenny reveals how the new COVID-19 vaccines work and what you're not being told.


Shot in the Dark | Dr. Sherri Tenpenny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iaKAWWGyWI



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