Topic: Play fewer hands to earn more strategy - Poker (Read 397 times)

Well this thread had stayed tight and it just now had action ...

The cards of your opponents are not guessed, a rank is used, there is a table of ranks by the type of player + by the position of the villain.
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It's not really about limiting the hands, or playing few hands, someone a while ago put out a post with a range of hands, but it like this is only part of the whole, to be a winner in the long term.

There is something called range of hands in position, it is something that combined "maybe" with the suggestions of the premium hands, for those who start playing poker it can be a good strategy.

Poker is not just about receiving "AA" and getting excited, you have to analyze the position at the table, the chip stacks of your opponents, who is aggressive, who is tight, how they are playing, who has been active, tight, how they enter in the "limp" hands, how much this players raise (1.5B, 2B, 3B)  etc.

And that analysis that you do with your opponents, you must do it with yourself, after that, comes the strategy applied to the type of game to apply to the tournament, not all are played the same, if it is an MTT, sit & go, or is a simple table of cash, also if it is short or long table, usually short table is 6max and long 9max but this varies.

To that add the levels or structure if it is 30 minutes, 10 minutes, 5 minutes, 3 minutes and there are up to a minute, etc...

Many other things escape me, but basically taking that into account you can then decide if you play certain hands and remember that you only have 15 seconds.

I like to play 73s from the cutoff.

I agree that limiting your bluffing to a minimum generally leads to a better outcome, at least I find it to be true for myself. Some people can bluff professionally, but for me bluffing almost always ended badly. And this strategy you're talking about, I guess many people play like that, it's just what naturally comes to mind - keep with good cards. But there are many downsides to this method, which is why I think only newbies use it. By limiting hands you can miss out on many good opportunities, like straights or flush. On the other hand, I've had situations when my starting combinations were awesome and I increased bets or even went all-in (with something like AA) and the other player had a very bad hand, but he got lucky and ended up with a straight, while I was left with my pair AA 
So I think the best was is to play as long as you can and try to figure out other's cards by analyzing their moves and general behavior.

This is correct, poker is classified as a game of skill, luck plays a part of course but over the long term the best player should always beat the less skilled player, so if a newbie is really interested in learning how to play the game I think it is better that he starts up as tighter than usual as most low stake games you can find on the Internet are filled with calling machines.

No matter what they have they want to go to the showdown so it is almost impossible to bluff them and this is even worse if you are playing limit games, later once you improve you can add bluffing and other more advanced tactics to your arsenal.

Those are good resources that you shared there. I want to share these resources to my friends who wants to learn to play the game. I mean they know the basics of the game and at the same time we don't play money games (at my request). Just fun game with play money or the tokens. I was a poker player before at a gambling joint and receiving "salary" from them for the sole purpose of playing at the tables. It was a bit stressful to play when thinking of losing your "salary" but it was an interesting experience.

But still, if we talk about a pro poker player, they will have more experience than us, and they can trace the possibility of the card that we might have. They can detect the card because I think this poker game also needs a strong feeling plus experience to know the opponent cards. I agree that we need to change our strategy or whatever the name to trick the other player, whether they are a pro poker player or not. But maybe, the more practice that we do, the more skills and experience we can get.

That you have written is garbage and you know it.


I mostly agree but lucky hands are only important in the short-term, if you are thinkin of short-term wins. Over the long-term we all get the same "lucky" hands, it's how you play them that matters.

Definitely.

In general, beginners tend to play way too many hands especially when they're the small blind or big blind at their table. They also tend to bluff a lot more than what is required, which results in suboptimal gameplay.

Staying consistent with a mathematically optimal strategy is just as important as getting lucky hands, imho.

In general, this is works in tables with more than 4 players. I tested it by myself few times.
But I used it with some improvements like to combine good hands with bluff (i will not tell about ratio, don't want to share my strategy :0 ) 

In theory this doesn't look like a really good idea as less cards means less bluffs which means less chances of your enemy making a wrong call. But then again this utterly compels me and I might just try it in a game or something and see how this goes. I'm thinking this is not a foolproof strategy so there's still a margin of loss that I should take into account but a few tweaks from this strat could make you a poker god at your local pub, if this strat indeed works.

Strategy game depends from how the gambler understand the risk, like what you have mentioned for past 6 years of playing you encounter those experienced players like you.

Opponents around the table who gathered good understnading of the game, they easily applies all those skills that they' got finding advantages from each rounds that you've play.

Bluffing most of the time relies with timing, and most part are luck behind.

With all due respect, playing for 6 years doesnt mean that you are good / veteran or whatever you want to call. What matter the most in poker to determine you are good or not is your live winning session. I've known with someone that start like less than 2 years in poker and already has over 30k winning in ggpoker ( probably more if you combine it with other sites ). Thats a decent number for playing less than 2 years


Bluff means you are trying to win the pot with a bad hands probably just some low pair or probably high cards or nothing. If your hands connect with the board, that means you are not bluffing


It depends on the board and your action. For example if you open from early position and the board was A 4 5 9 10 rainbow. What are your bluff in this board in case you are holding KQs? You need a logical bluff in this spot because the villain that opens next to you might have A ( probably ) if you dont hold an A. The only nuts in this would be 2 3 which makes it a straight but it is almost not possible for the early position to open with 23.

Anyway if you are playing poker, you might want to join bitcointalk weekend game. We'll be waiting for you in case if you are interested  

I don't get that you must need to lessen your bluffs whenever you are playing poker, I've been playing poker for almost 6 years and I can say that I am already veteran when it comes to this game and I've met so many players that are very good on bluffing in which they can bluff all the game and no one can ever noticed it and when you call them they has a good cards. What I want to say is that you just need to be careful whenever you are bluffing because some of the gamblers knows how to do that too so if you will do these things then you must be really good at it.

Yes bluffing and trapping your opponent are the best ways to get money being a tight player, if people realize you are a tight player then every time you raise most likely they will fold thinking you have a super hand, this is especially true if the flop is dangerous and you could have the nuts over them, however where this strategy really shines is when you bluff as your opponent will believe that you have something when in fact you do not.

The other way to get more profits out of this style is by playing your hands slowly, if you have a very good hand instead of raising you become a calling machine and just call their bets and then after the river comes you either make a bet or raise the pot significantly and you beat them by revealing you always had something better than what they have.

You can do it as much as you can. And changing of expression can also help to scare the other guys on the table which will make them hesitant to think if you are bluffing or not.

Movies are movies and it is different in real life. I have seen guys do that in tournaments and real life table plays.

It's no secret that the odds of winning with these card combinations in hand are very high. In my opinion, it's much more interesting to learn how to bluff and make your opponents doubt your cards when you don't have any of these combinations in your hand. Getting your opponents to fold when you're holding J and 10 is a real bluffing skill.

That is what happens if we face a pro poker player in the poker game as they have more experience than us and they will know if we just bluff or have a good card. They can know how to anticipate our moves, and maybe they can block our move and win the game. Maybe changing the pattern can be a solution but once again, if we meet the pro poker player, we need more than that because they really hard to get tricks from us.

That was my first thought too, playing fewer hands will slowly chip away your chips because there are times that you are going to be placing a bet even though there are no cards dealt yet. The best way to play poker in my opinion is to always get in the game and try to play some mind games with other players, be the unpredictable one at the very least or make it look like you are predictable and then pull a fast one.

I don't think it's going to work just playing the absolute premium hands in today's world. This sounds more like a strategy from the 90s and poker came a long way since then. The problem with such a strategy is that becomes to easy to exploit. Once other players understand you only top hands they will just fold to your raise. In my opinion you are going to pay too much in blinds while waiting for your cards. Also postponing is so important in poker these days.

What I am trying to say is that your pattern will become predictable and you can't simply bluff in a predicted pattern because the trained eye will notice even your bet and they know that you are up to something when you suddenly go off the pattern or try to follow the pattern. Yes it might work for awhile but once they get ahold of how you do it, they will know it.

the game is more of psychology it's better to play with humans on the table to learn the kind of players you are playing with. it's better to establish a pattern actually so you are going to be unpredictable whenever you wanted to bluff. it's satisfying to see you get to win big with just one bluff you made and only then they will realize you are not the kind of player that they thought so.