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legendary
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Can the 'move to earn model' offered by a company like Sweatcoin, of whom are willing to pay tokens to users who have either sweated using the app while running or swimming, be a micro or macro solution to economic problems, if adopted on a large scale?

When you're getting paid for something in a token, the rule is this:
If for the said action a normal world nobody would pay you a cent, then the amount of tokens you will receive for that "work" of yours will also be worth less than a cent.

Simple economics!
Nobody is interested in paying you to walk as you don't generate any revenue.
Nobody is interested in you playing games as long as you don't pay first to play!


That is exactly true! And maybe, that's the reason why most of these projects failed to go mainstream because how can they earn money out of this project? How many projects have tried this "move-to-earn" model, and yet, you can't see them in popular trading platforms. Most even didn't get the chance to be listed in the exchange. The sustenance of this niche seems to be quite challenging as they need to find a way how to generate their income such as getting ads or sponsorships from related companies.

But don't know how STEPN is doing in the market, one move-to-earn model that I know so far which is still alive, at least their app and website.
legendary
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It is of course not as it used to be before when the talk of cryptocurrencies or the Blockchain network was a myth and everyone including me, wanted nothing to do with it, because it felt like a Ponzi scheme or the subject of cryptocurrency was just too complex and incomprehensible to understand.

How can they say money is invisible and decentralized and it can hardly be tracked and it can only be available online and has the same purchasing power as the fait we have grown accustomed to from birth; this was my thoughts until now having known better and understand to the point where I can say that in this world currently, the cryptocurrencies exchanges and the decentralized network use a 'play to earn model' which is different from the 'move to earn model' that apps offering same prices and rewards in tokens like Sweatcoin among others use.
This is the business strategy for most emerging and upgrading technology companies that have been created sinçe and before the bloom, acceptance, regulation and advancement in cryptocurrency and its investment.

Which model has been more beneficial to you, when you think of investing time and resources to earn a passive income?

Can the 'move to earn model' offered by a company like Sweatcoin, of whom are willing to pay tokens to users who have either sweated using the app while running or swimming, be a micro or macro solution to economic problems, if adopted on a large scale?

Or would this 'move to earn model' just follow its hype and fade into existence leaving cryptocurrencies to be the only better innovation that is much more helpful to the economy?

Your thoughts are welcomed!


As anyone else says, this is a minor side hustle at best and chasing scraps at worst - neither is particularly appealing when you've got a much larger source of income like a salary. Sometimes these new coins prove profitable if you get in and out at the right points in time, but it's much like winning the lottery. Make money while working out is simply a gimmick that will not last and has no basis. If you cannot see how you are earning money, then it's because you are the product and giving up your personal information - but these trash promotions aren't even focused around that, they are just trying to build a user base of people who might able to sell some worthless cryptocurrency on to another user before it implodes.
legendary
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Can the 'move to earn model' offered by a company like Sweatcoin, of whom are willing to pay tokens to users who have either sweated using the app while running or swimming, be a micro or macro solution to economic problems, if adopted on a large scale?

When you're getting paid for something in a token, the rule is this:
If for the said action in the normal world nobody would pay you a cent, then the amount of tokens you will receive for that "work" of yours will also be worth less than a cent.

Simple economics!
Nobody is interested in paying you to walk as you don't generate any revenue.
Nobody is interested in you playing games as long as you don't pay first to play!
full member
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Upon reading, Sweatcoin and Sweat Economy are just one right?
That seems to be the case. Sweatcoin is basically a product for non-crypto users while they offer Sweat Walelt for crypto users, at least that's what they said on their website. Sounds like Uniswap and their UNI token, or just any altcoin project in general.

This reminds me, I used to track my physical activity with an app a few years ago. They offered rewards in the form of free stickers or wallpaper if I reached a certain milestone. Some argue that these rewards can help my brain feel rewarded for every exercise, but I never feel that way. I'm not sure how I'd feel if I got a token for doing exercise, but I'd feel terrible if my goal is to earn money by doing squats and I only earn $1 after a month or so.
Hehehehe, at least you would get to grow big muscles after doing the squats faithfully.
Obviously, the move to earn model of business will not help even the micro economy of any individual and am sure play to earn follows same suit, unless for airdrops and other tokens that can't be converted to cash but used to purchase items online that the play to earn model allows.
hero member
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It's not a solution to anything. Microearnings have always been a waste of time. Only the poorest and most desperate people do them, and still it's not worth for them. They would have been better off spending that time on developing skills that could help them earn better money - these days you can learn almost anything on the Internet.

And even thinking about macroeconomic effects of microearnings is just funny.
Microearnings have already helped early BTC adopters to earn from zero considerable sums of money in current BTC rates. It's not always a waste of time. Sometimes there is long term potential on microearnings offers and they should be analyzed by people who are looking for opportunities and can't find them on their local communities. Each case is one case. What works for you might not work for someone else, but what works for him, might not work for you.

Therefore, I don't discourage anyone from seeking for offers, even inside the microearnings niche. The important thing is to be constantly searching something to make an income from, even when it seems nothing is going to work for you. It's necessary to be attentive to what life is bringing and trying to show. There might lie the opportunity you have been looking for, but couldn't find so far.
legendary
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Upon reading, Sweatcoin and Sweat Economy are just one right?
That seems to be the case. Sweatcoin is basically a product for non-crypto users while they offer Sweat Walelt for crypto users, at least that's what they said on their website. Sounds like Uniswap and their UNI token, or just any altcoin project in general.

This reminds me, I used to track my physical activity with an app a few years ago. They offered rewards in the form of free stickers or wallpaper if I reached a certain milestone. Some argue that these rewards can help my brain feel rewarded for every exercise, but I never feel that way. I'm not sure how I'd feel if I got a token for doing exercise, but I'd feel terrible if my goal is to earn money by doing squats and I only earn $1 after a month or so.
legendary
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they are paying coins to move. i don't see this working there is some kind of big fitness gym supporting such a project and making its tokenomics that is beneficial for all. play to earn is more realistic already but this one is just a dream. People today are already used to memecoins and they could forget about Sweatcoin. There are just more projects out there that are already working with a great community.  Upon reading, Sweatcoin and Sweat Economy are just one right?
hero member
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Which model has been more beneficial to you, when you think of investing time and resources to earn a passive income?
None has benefitted me and I've never subscribed to any of them because they are not really worth it. I'd rather invest my time doing something profitable than wasting my time on these micro earning opportunities. The developers of these apps are the ones smiling to the banks, they generate a lot of revenues from running ads, collecting and selling users data but the users are rewarded with peanuts for their data, time and effort.
You are right. Only devs are benefitting from it since they did it as a means to make people help them make their token and apps known, and decieve them with having returns, which I see to me as an empty promise. It is all a waste of time and energy on these micro earnings app, because those token might never have a high market value. You will just be there enslaving yourself while the devs are smiling and enjoying the effort of your labour. If you have better plan for your future, then learn a skill, get a job and use 10% of your income to invest in bitcoin. Micro earnings cannot improve anyone's  financial status, talk more of solving any economic problems.
sr. member
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Which model has been more beneficial to you, when you think of investing time and resources to earn a passive income?
None has benefitted me and I've never subscribed to any of them because they are not really worth it. I'd rather invest my time doing something profitable than wasting my time on these micro earning opportunities. The developers of these apps are the ones smiling to the banks, they generate a lot of revenues from running ads, collecting and selling users data but the users are rewarded with peanuts for their data, time and effort.
legendary
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The whole digital money thing was pretty difficult for me when I first heard of Bitcoin as well, but I think it's the kind of issue that newer generations (starting with Gen-Z) don't have because they grow up with digital stuff as a part of their lives since birth, so money that only exists digitally is just added to a long list of digital-only things, and being digital doesn't mean being less real.
As for 'move to earn', I think it's a problematic concept because of how physical movements are capitalized, which reminds me of some episodes of Black Mirror showing dystopian worlds. I don't think this model has a fighting chance against major cryptos, and I hope it won't become popular, to be honest.
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Which model has been more beneficial to you, when you think of investing time and resources to earn a passive income?
I have never invested or tried any move to earn projects so I can only answer the other option.

The move to earn model sounded great during the pandemic since a lot of people were unable to get out and do their usual physical activities. It died down a couple of years after the pandemic since those who usually don't exercise were back to their old habit. The market for this project is limited to people with active lifestyle and that's less than the market of gamers.
The days when it was easy to get valuable cryptocurrencies through accomplishment of tasks have past. Engaging in these play or move-to-win projects rewards participants with worthless coins. I might consider engaging in these tasks if it will have other benefits beside the coins. There are some of the projects that might bring health benefits or help to develop some physical or Intelligence Quotient. The easiest way to own a valuable coin now is either to mine, buy or over services.
sr. member
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Which model has been more beneficial to you, when you think of investing time and resources to earn a passive income?
I have never invested or tried any move to earn projects so I can only answer the other option.

The move to earn model sounded great during the pandemic since a lot of people were unable to get out and do their usual physical activities. It died down a couple of years after the pandemic since those who usually don't exercise were back to their old habit. The market for this project is limited to people with active lifestyle and that's less than the market of gamers.
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Can the 'move to earn model' offered by a company like Sweatcoin, of whom are willing to pay tokens to users who have either sweated using the app while running or swimming, be a micro or macro solution to economic problems, if adopted on a large scale?

Or would this 'move to earn model' just follow its hype and fade into existence leaving cryptocurrencies to be the only better innovation that is much more helpful to the economy?


I have these two tokens, and the application, and active on both platforms, it's a total waste of time imagine spending hours playing and making you sweat for a few cents worth of tokens you cannot do these two at the same time.

And if you do this on a large scale can the price sustain to make it worth the effort of those doing the tasks, Axie Infinity was a huge success but after they crashed all the other play-to-earn models followed similar paths same thing with the move to earn models.

With the move to Earn (M2E) model which involves earning through physical activities, like walking, running, swimming, being tracked by ones device to earn tokens and points, it is obviously tied to real-world movements and health care benefits for those who need to burn off some fat or stay fit.
The Play to Earn (P2E) model, is a kind of web3 game that focuses on in-game accomplishments which is centered on virtual gaming rewards.

Many business models may focus on either of both models, if they intend to become economically suited to fit the decentralized system and virtual reality environments, but I understand the fear is that, these models have yet to be the best of ideas for anyone wanting to earn passive income stream seeing that they are a results of the progress cryptocurrencies and the decentralized system including advancement in AI bots has so far made.

I think the world is more focused right now on making cryptocurrency and AI bots work better than virtual reality environments with less users and unusable tokens.
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Which model has been more beneficial to you, when you think of investing time and resources to earn a passive income?

Can the 'move to earn model' offered by a company like Sweatcoin, of whom are willing to pay tokens to users who have either sweated using the app while running or swimming, be a micro or macro solution to economic problems, if adopted on a large scale?

Or would this 'move to earn model' just follow its hype and fade into existence leaving cryptocurrencies to be the only better innovation that is much more helpful to the economy?



First of all move to earn project is a good thing for the individual himself as it does not only allow for income but also allows for the individual to build healthier lifestyles. I think that move to earn project is a little better if we are talking about long-term results here.

However we cannot ignore the fact that move to earn is a little less convenient than play to earn projects. Some people are not privileged enough to have the ability to move to earn when they are tethered to work or to their homes.
legendary
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Can the 'move to earn model' offered by a company like Sweatcoin, of whom are willing to pay tokens to users who have either sweated using the app while running or swimming, be a micro or macro solution to economic problems, if adopted on a large scale?


It's not a solution to anything. Microearnings have always been a waste of time. Only the poorest and most desperate people do them, and still it's not worth for them. They would have been better off spending that time on developing skills that could help them earn better money - these days you can learn almost anything on the Internet.

And even thinking about macroeconomic effects of microearnings is just funny.

People always believe on something easy for them to do then earn that's why they always get fucked up by those scammers pretending to create something innovative things that reward on every movements they make.

Maybe its better for people to ignore this especially if they need to buy something expensive NFT just to increase their earnings since usually they are just scam and they will fall the same with other scam gamefi which came out first after they gather a lot of money from people who believe that this is really great and for long term.
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Can the 'move to earn model' offered by a company like Sweatcoin, of whom are willing to pay tokens to users who have either sweated using the app while running or swimming, be a micro or macro solution to economic problems, if adopted on a large scale?

Or would this 'move to earn model' just follow its hype and fade into existence leaving cryptocurrencies to be the only better innovation that is much more helpful to the economy?


I have these two tokens, and the application, and active on both platforms, it's a total waste of time imagine spending hours playing and making you sweat for a few cents worth of tokens you cannot do these two at the same time.

And if you do this on a large scale can the price sustain to make it worth the effort of those doing the tasks, Axie Infinity was a huge success but after they crashed all the other play-to-earn models followed similar paths same thing with the move to earn models.
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After trying both types of games, I realized that they are essentially the same, merely wasting people’s time. I don’t know about other people’s experiences with them, whether they are better or just like mine, but I feel that the system is akin to an MLM pattern where you need to buy their tokens and then use their services to earn the rewards they offer. In reality, the rewards they provide are also very low, so you need a lot of time just to collect 1-2 dollars, which is actually not worth it. Yeah, maybe some people say that they don't have a problem with this, but I personally conclude that this microearning platform is just a waste of my time.

This got me laughing because this micro earning as you called it is very disheartened if you calculate all effort put just earm 1-2 dollar is very disgusting the worst of it they keep seeking attention and protecting their road map and with good article to convince you at the end of following in participating you will realize the effort was made in vain.

It remains me the last game I involved the time and energy spend coming up to see that it was just wasted efforts.
Until they change their pattern of rewards they will end up loosing all their investors and other inventors are coming up with better earning strategies with good rewarding system.
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Most of these apps that offer this kind of earning model are too small and aren't worth much to be able to contribute to the economy in a big way, not to mention that most of the time, it's really difficult to earn in most of them, the only time that something like this model has ever been successful is when Axie Infinity boomed in popularity, that one was driven by too much hype investments that it lead to that point though. Maybe the only thing that these models can contribute to the economy is that it rewards individuals that are participating in the game a small amount of reward that they can then sell to get fiat or any other cryptocurrency and then they can use that money to spend on something thus making some contribution to the economic cycle of buying and selling products and services.
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After trying both types of games, I realized that they are essentially the same, merely wasting people’s time. I don’t know about other people’s experiences with them, whether they are better or just like mine, but I feel that the system is akin to an MLM pattern where you need to buy their tokens and then use their services to earn the rewards they offer. In reality, the rewards they provide are also very low, so you need a lot of time just to collect 1-2 dollars, which is actually not worth it. Yeah, maybe some people say that they don't have a problem with this, but I personally conclude that this microearning platform is just a waste of my time.
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Can the 'move to earn model' offered by a company like Sweatcoin, of whom are willing to pay tokens to users who have either sweated using the app while running or swimming, be a micro or macro solution to economic problems, if adopted on a large scale?


It's not a solution to anything. Microearnings have always been a waste of time. Only the poorest and most desperate people do them, and still it's not worth for them. They would have been better off spending that time on developing skills that could help them earn better money - these days you can learn almost anything on the Internet.

And even thinking about macroeconomic effects of microearnings is just funny.
It is really that simple, those using their time in this kind of activity are not really think things through, as they would better off just using that time looking for a regular job than spending their time doing this.

As even if they could manage to get an amount of coins that was considerable after a long time of doing this, there is no way for them to know if by the time they want to make a withdrawal the coin will still hold any value.
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