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vintagetrex

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Quote from: markm on January 17, 2014, 01:04:00 AM

You still have not solved the problem of a user not being able to pose a viable proof demand without already being in possession of the data desired.

I get the impression you have not researched even the many discussions of distributed storage right here on this forum let alone the literature in general.

-MarkM-

Good thing the developers will have. I'm just the visionary/idea guy.

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You still have not solved the problem of a user not being able to pose a viable proof demand without already being in possession of the data desired.

I get the impression you have not researched even the many discussions of distributed storage right here on this forum let alone the literature in general.

-MarkM-

vintagetrex

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Quote from: kalus on January 17, 2014, 12:38:25 AM

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:30:03 AM

SCARY WALL OF TEXT

Thank you. you do not have a patent.

1. what is your patent classification? PC/IPC?

2. where are your inventors, with country?

3. who and where are your applicants?

4. who and where are your agents?

5. what was your filing date?

6. where is your filing abstract? that alone would answer alot of questions without revealing ANY secrets.

etc. etc.

it reads as an anti-establishment manifesto and not something that would be recognized as a defendable patent.

I am thinking this is paraphrased from your so-called white paper.

remember, you have to be able to defend this in a court of law someday, because i guarantee your ass will be sued.

Ergo, i reject your claim to 'patent pending'.

nothing to see here: just a half-coherent whitepaper that will lead all investors off a cliff.

1. Don't know what pc/ipc is
2. I am the sole inventor from USA
3. I filed the provisional patent alone (is that what u meant?)
4. agents? I work alone and was unemployed at the time (student)
5. June 2013
6. I don't have one other than on my provisional application

My provisional application has the key information in it (multiple mining networks, claim specific currencies etc) but it does read like a crypto anarchist manifesto.

vintagetrex

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I'm conversing with a great dev team from MIT and RPI. They're good and already working. To be honest this will get made with or without investors.

With investors we can go private with a 100% pre mined launch (kinda like Nxt), patent rights, and the correct distribution of coins to keep the network secure and working well with proof of stake.

Without investors it gets made swapping proof of stake for proof of work with no pre mine.

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Quote from: kalus on January 17, 2014, 12:38:25 AM

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:30:03 AM

SCARY WALL OF TEXT

Thank you. you do not have a patent.

1. what is your patent classification? PC/IPC?

2. where are your inventors, with country?

3. who and where are your applicants?

4. who and where are your agents?

5. what was your filing date?

6. where is your filing abstract? that alone would answer alot of questions without revealing ANY secrets.

etc. etc.

it reads as an anti-establishment manifesto and not something that would be recognized as a defendable patent.

I am thinking this is paraphrased from your so-called white paper.

remember, you have to be able to defend this in a court of law someday, because i guarantee your ass will be sued.

Ergo, i reject your claim to 'patent pending'.

nothing to see here: just a half-coherent whitepaper that will lead all investors off a cliff.

+1 and case closed.

kalus

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let's make a deal.

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:30:03 AM

SCARY WALL OF TEXT

Thank you. you do not have a patent.

1. what is your patent classification? PC/IPC?

2. where are your inventors, with country?

3. who and where are your applicants?

4. who and where are your agents?

5. what was your filing date?

6. where is your filing abstract? that alone would answer alot of questions without revealing ANY secrets.

etc. etc.

it reads as an anti-establishment manifesto and not something that would be recognized as a defendable patent.

I am thinking this is paraphrased from your so-called white paper.

remember, you have to be able to defend this in a court of law someday, because i guarantee your ass will be sued.

Ergo, i reject your claim to 'patent pending'.

nothing to see here: just a half-coherent whitepaper that will lead all investors off a cliff.

cthulu1

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So essentially you're a 21 yr old college student who has an IDEA, but no patent (since you refuse to provide the number which can be referenced by anyone). and you're asking for almost $42,000 for something that hasn't been tested and is solely your idea? Not to mention your outstanding ability to handle inquiries in the utmost levels of maturity. Truly overwhelming potential here. And you don't even have a development team!

All joking aside, buyers beware.

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proof of work can be swapped for proof of stock. sorry if its not too pretty I copied and pasted from MS word notebook layout.

The game theory analysis of how original content retains value is where the money is at.

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edit: moved to original post (at the top)

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Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:24:13 AM

Quote from: kalus on January 17, 2014, 12:17:17 AM

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:05:36 AM

edit: wait so all this time you were trying to screw me by trying to get me to post a picture of my patent??

By publishing a patent, you have the legal protection of the law from someone taking your idea.

for a patentable idea, publishing is your main legal protection. By definition, patents are public information, so people know NOT TO INFRINGE on your patent.

this is why coke doesn't patent their cola: the recipe is a trade secret, and will never be published. you cannot claim that you have a secret, and claim at the same time it is patent pending. for someone who claims to have a patent you do not seem to understand why you have a patent.

because you were willing to provide your student ID and your driver's license before, you should have absoultely no issues with a patent that has your real name on it.

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:16:21 AM

_{_{I SHOOK UP THE WORLD. I GOT SCREWED OVER BY BIG BUSINESS AS A 19 YEAR OLD AND I JUST OVERTHREW WAL STREET AND THE USPTO… AND I JUST 21 YEARS OLD. I MUST BE THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!}}

please put post your patent information, but after you've put down the crack pipe.

What do you even mean by this? I told you I don't have the provisional patent with me right now. I told you that so many times already man. Do you want me to provide details about my invention?

What he means by this is provide proof of work, proof of concept, proof that people who are interested in investing aren't investing in vaporware. Or you can just continue to try and deter people from the information that matters like most scammers do. If you want serious investors, be transparent. It's as simple as that. And if it's in your "dorm 300 miles away"....well then surely one of your roommates can do you a solid and go fetch the number for you like good lads.

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let's make a deal.

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:24:13 AM

What do you even mean by this? I told you I don't have the provisional patent with me right now. I told you that so many times already man. Do you want me to provide details about my invention?

You volunteered that information by asserting "patent pending". patented ideas are public ideas. you merely have the privilege to use them for 20 years by the auspices of the US government.

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 16, 2014, 07:52:40 PM

Yes, I obtained a patent filing number from the USPTO in an off white envelope. I also published.

i'm asking for a copy of what you have published. it is in the public record. Every US citizen has the right to view this record.

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Quote from: kalus on January 17, 2014, 12:17:17 AM

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:05:36 AM

edit: wait so all this time you were trying to screw me by trying to get me to post a picture of my patent??

By publishing a patent, you have the legal protection of the law from someone taking your idea.

for a patentable idea, publishing is your main legal protection. By definition, patents are public information, so people know NOT TO INFRINGE on your patent.

this is why coke doesn't patent their cola: the recipe is a trade secret, and will never be published. you cannot claim that you have a secret, and claim at the same time it is patent pending. for someone who claims to have a patent you do not seem to understand why you have a patent.

because you were willing to provide your student ID and your driver's license before, you should have absoultely no issues with a patent that has your real name on it.

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:16:21 AM

_{_{I SHOOK UP THE WORLD. I GOT SCREWED OVER BY BIG BUSINESS AS A 19 YEAR OLD AND I JUST OVERTHREW WAL STREET AND THE USPTO… AND I JUST 21 YEARS OLD. I MUST BE THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!}}

please put post your patent information, but after you've put down the crack pipe.

Also I was up all night last night and I am sick maybe with the flu. I feel bad and my throat hurts a lot. I have to go to sleep in a little, so I can get some rest. I'm not thinking too well right now anyways.

edit: the shook up the world stuff is alluding to muhammad ali

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let's make a deal.

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:05:36 AM

I haven't published the provisional patent.

then why did you state:

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 16, 2014, 07:52:40 PM

Yes, I obtained a patent filing number from the USPTO in an off white envelope. I also published.

i'm asking for a copy of what you have published. it is in the public record. Every US citizen has the right to view this record.

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:05:36 AM

edit: wait so all this time you were trying to screw me by trying to get me to post a picture of my patent??

By publishing a patent, you have the legal protection of the law from someone taking your idea.

for a patentable idea, publishing is your main legal protection. By definition, patents are public information, so people know NOT TO INFRINGE on your patent.

this is why coke doesn't patent their cola: the recipe is a trade secret, and will never be published. you cannot claim that you have a secret, and claim at the same time it is patent pending. for someone who claims to have a patent you do not seem to understand why you have a patent.

because you were willing to provide your student ID and your driver's license before, you should have absoultely no issues with a patent that has your real name on it.

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:16:21 AM

_{_{I SHOOK UP THE WORLD. I GOT SCREWED OVER BY BIG BUSINESS AS A 19 YEAR OLD AND I JUST OVERTHREW WAL STREET AND THE USPTO… AND I JUST 21 YEARS OLD. I MUST BE THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!}}

please put post your patent information, but after you've put down the crack pipe.

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Classy. Really showing all your ~~potential~~ ex investors out there what kind of person they are going to be trusting their money to. As he said, there's a reason you're trying to market this in an internet forum and not to a serious investment firm. Roll Eyes

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You file a patent on a single invention…

I file a patent on an entire intellectual property system with millions of inventions, copyrighted works, etc.

OWNED

I SHOOK UP THE WORLD. I GOT SCREWED OVER BY BIG BUSINESS AS A 19 YEAR OLD AND I JUST OVERTHREW WAL STREET AND THE USPTO… AND I JUST TURNED 21 YEARS OLD. I MUST BE THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!

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Quote from: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 12:10:21 AM

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Quote from: MisO69 on January 16, 2014, 03:54:12 PM

When you give money to someone you normally know who that person is. So how about you divulge all of your personal details here. I mean after all, you want our money we should know who were giving it to.

edit: thats the information i can find on myself from google

Oh, what did you have to type in to find that information "fictional scammer school profiles with no picture to provide support to my poorly crafted story?" Seriously though, anyone who gives money to this clown deserves to lose it anyways.

+1 to kalus for calling out the bullshit ever so craftily.

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:05:36 AM

edit: wait so all this time you were trying to screw me by trying to get me to post a picture of my patent??

and he can't "steal" your patent if it's already been submitted. But surely you'd know that if you were aware of how patenting actually works.

how butt hurt are you guys that some stupid little arrogant kid like me has patent rights on the intellectual property system of the internet? I THOUGHT OF IT FIRST HAHAHAH

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Quote from: MisO69 on January 16, 2014, 03:54:12 PM

When you give money to someone you normally know who that person is. So how about you divulge all of your personal details here. I mean after all, you want our money we should know who were giving it to.

edit: thats the information i can find on myself from google

Oh, what did you have to type in to find that information "fictional scammer school profiles with no picture to provide support to my poorly crafted story?" Seriously though, anyone who gives money to this clown deserves to lose it anyways.

+1 to kalus for calling out the bullshit ever so craftily.

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:05:36 AM

edit: wait so all this time you were trying to screw me by trying to get me to post a picture of my patent??

and he can't "steal" your patent if it's already been submitted. But surely you'd know that if you were aware of how patenting actually works. I too, would like you to provide the patent number so I can review it in the public records database.

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I was confused by your statement. I have published some of the information for my idea because under new law your patent case is strengthened by publishing information. I thought that was what you meant. I haven't published the provisional patent.

edit: wait so all this time you were trying to screw me by trying to get me to post a picture of my patent??

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let's make a deal.

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 16, 2014, 11:50:55 PM

it says provisional patents are supposed to be kept secret.

Correct. however, you explicitly stated:

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 16, 2014, 07:52:40 PM

Yes, I obtained a patent filing number from the USPTO in an off white envelope. I also published.

you have waived your claim to secrecy. so, where is the published patent that you voluntarily published?

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Quote from: kalus on January 16, 2014, 11:44:24 PM

Quote from: vintagetrex on January 16, 2014, 11:41:56 PM

1. No you cannot search on provisional patents

yes you can. USPTO uses one public database.

http://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair

Even for just a provisional? that site I linked to earlier said you couldn't search for provisionals.

edit: also, I don't have the number with me now. I will get it ASAP, but it is 300 miles away.

is this article wrong?
http://patentfile.org/how-to-search-provisional-patents/

it says provisional patents are supposed to be kept secret. CONFIRMED (I checked this on multiple websites)

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