Please research new sites before investing in them

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Quote from: richmcrich on November 25, 2016, 01:34:33 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 21, 2016, 09:58:48 AM

I think it goes without saying that anybody interested in investing in anything should do a hell of a lot of research & I don't just mean things involving bitcoin.

It's your money, treat it with respect.

Yes we must be really very much careful while investing in these sites, as you can easily be scam by scammers because they have so many ways of scamming people so you need to search with extreme care and only then take a decision about investing your money in online gambling using these sites.

If you're talking about only gambling investments, then this forum has got good information on well-trusted sites. So just go through those threads and can decide which site you can invest and it is not such a difficult thing because here most of the reviews are real and we can trust on those reviews. But if you're talking about the products not listed on this forum then surely we need to do a lot of research.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 21, 2016, 09:58:48 AM

I think it goes without saying that anybody interested in investing in anything should do a hell of a lot of research & I don't just mean things involving bitcoin.

It's your money, treat it with respect.

Yes we must be really very much careful while investing in these sites, as you can easily be scam by scammers because they have so many ways of scamming people so you need to search with extreme care and only then take a decision about investing your money in online gambling using these sites.

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Quote from: Jasad on November 24, 2016, 11:01:15 PM

Quote from: maku on November 24, 2016, 09:30:09 PM

Quote from: TOPBTCCASINOS on November 24, 2016, 02:06:17 AM

so hard to get good research done when all the sites are run anonymously

It is not exactly right that anonymous status of casino owner is a drawback here. We don't know who are behind some major/trusted/old bitcoin casinos either.
But that doesn't mean service can't be trusted if full dox of owners is not available. Admins/owners like to protect their privacy in the same way gamblers do.

why the casino owners have to reveal their information ,
while they let you as player to gamble anonymously?
i agree both the players and owners have same rights to have a privacy protected ,
as long as the site well known in certain goup or community and get vouched i think it is ok.

Anonymity in some respect, is a blessing and a curse for both the internet and bitcoin. It's difficult to entrust somebody with your money when you have very little, if any, information about them. You've just always gotta be weary and look around on the forums as best you can. If its a really new site, best to either wait it out, or simply ask on here and get a discussion going. It'll benefit both you and the people that have been lurking around, waiting for an answer.

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Quote from: Jasad on November 24, 2016, 11:01:15 PM

Quote from: maku on November 24, 2016, 09:30:09 PM

Quote from: TOPBTCCASINOS on November 24, 2016, 02:06:17 AM

so hard to get good research done when all the sites are run anonymously

It is not exactly right that anonymous status of casino owner is a drawback here. We don't know who are behind some major/trusted/old bitcoin casinos either.
But that doesn't mean service can't be trusted if full dox of owners is not available. Admins/owners like to protect their privacy in the same way gamblers do.

why the casino owners have to reveal their information ,
while they let you as player to gamble anonymously?
i agree both the players and owners have same rights to have a privacy protected ,
as long as the site well known in certain goup or community and get vouched i think it is ok.

Yeah, I think this is common rule before put your money wherever it is.
It's not so hard to do research, because people on forum already mentioned and gave reviews about good and trusted gambling sites.
Moreover, sites that already exist for years and has so many users is a good option.

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Quote from: maku on November 24, 2016, 09:30:09 PM

Quote from: TOPBTCCASINOS on November 24, 2016, 02:06:17 AM

so hard to get good research done when all the sites are run anonymously

It is not exactly right that anonymous status of casino owner is a drawback here. We don't know who are behind some major/trusted/old bitcoin casinos either.
But that doesn't mean service can't be trusted if full dox of owners is not available. Admins/owners like to protect their privacy in the same way gamblers do.

why the casino owners have to reveal their information ,
while they let you as player to gamble anonymously?
i agree both the players and owners have same rights to have a privacy protected ,
as long as the site well known in certain goup or community and get vouched i think it is ok.

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Quote from: TOPBTCCASINOS on November 24, 2016, 02:06:17 AM

so hard to get good research done when all the sites are run anonymously

It is not exactly right that anonymous status of casino owner is a drawback here. We don't know who are behind some major/trusted/old bitcoin casinos either.
But that doesn't mean service can't be trusted if full dox of owners is not available. Admins/owners like to protect their privacy in the same way gamblers do.

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Quote from: TOPBTCCASINOS on November 24, 2016, 02:06:17 AM

so hard to get good research done when all the sites are run anonymously

The best way to find tusted gambling sites to invest is bitcointalk forum. If you search all the threads then you will get real feedback from the users and can decide whether you can invest on those sites are not. From the Google search, it may be bit difficult to find required details.

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so hard to get good research done when all the sites are run anonymously

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Quote from: Red-Apple on November 22, 2016, 08:52:52 AM

Quote from: sulendra12 on November 22, 2016, 08:30:43 AM

Quote from: passivebesiege on November 21, 2016, 06:29:29 PM

Its their own fault they risk thier own money without even ask people or search it for thier own good to see of the site is scam or legit.

Correct , the laziness will leads you into the hell and be broken + regret for get scammed and absolutely they're fault for be lazy search the site before invest their money. Bought site , shady activities , unresponsive support ticket and etc are commonly the scammy site do.

It only takes min 5 minutes to do this , and it won't be affect with you but that's worth it for your money.

well, that is not always true!
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It's ok with your opinion because we don't know what the owner thinks next , but look at my post that have been bold "Bought site , shady activities , unresponsive support ticket and etc are commonly the scammy site do." .
If you find this behavior even though those sites not scam before , you must be careful and stay away for avoid the unnecessary thing might be happened.

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Good advice, there are so many and most of them are easily identifiable as scams just by the way they are setup and the terrible websites they create.

The ones that will catch people out are the professional looking websites, especially the cloud mining websites as people are a sucker for quick profit and then when someone tells you that you can earn 150% of your investment in x amount of days people seem to believe it is possible.

Our forum has a great bunch of people and numerous threads about scam sites, as long as people use google or come here directly to inquire about a site then we should be able to catch them before they lose out.

It is a shame to have this going on but it happens everywhere, we will always get the bad apples spoiling the bunch.

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Quote from: MinerHQ on November 23, 2016, 12:34:09 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on November 22, 2016, 09:59:39 AM

Quote from: SparkedDev on November 21, 2016, 12:10:55 AM

It's seems people don't like to use this new magical tool called google.
Then get screwed over then cry about it.

Just recently I realized that some people don't know how to use Google properly and that's why they have troubles finding what they need. So here's a tip (sorry if you already know it but I'm sure some people don't): if you don't want lots of useless garbage popping up in the search results just add the "+" before your keyword. Example: +[site name] +[scam]. Try it and you'll see much better looking results.

But still, these blog results may not be 100% correct because if someone pissed off with any gambling site then can easily write a negative blog about the site and submit it to any public sites or into their sites. So it very important to visit the forums and check what other members are talking about the particular site to get more accurate feedback about the site.

I don't actually read bad blogs since it can be manipulated by those envy blog makers and some of them made some bad propaganda just to create annoyment to the gamblers who used to play at them, i usually rely on people's feedback and experiences,

And for what ive see there so many trolls around here and maybe they are the one who's giving bad image for certains sites, and truly for me as long as site pays and give more fun to their gamblers well i can still say that they are in good phase.

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Quote from: Betwrong on November 22, 2016, 09:59:39 AM

Quote from: SparkedDev on November 21, 2016, 12:10:55 AM

It's seems people don't like to use this new magical tool called google.
Then get screwed over then cry about it.

Just recently I realized that some people don't know how to use Google properly and that's why they have troubles finding what they need. So here's a tip (sorry if you already know it but I'm sure some people don't): if you don't want lots of useless garbage popping up in the search results just add the "+" before your keyword. Example: +[site name] +[scam]. Try it and you'll see much better looking results.

But still, these blog results may not be 100% correct because if someone pissed off with any gambling site then can easily write a negative blog about the site and submit it to any public sites or into their sites. So it very important to visit the forums and check what other members are talking about the particular site to get more accurate feedback about the site.

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Quote from: SparkedDev on November 21, 2016, 12:10:55 AM

It's seems people don't like to use this new magical tool called google.
Then get screwed over then cry about it.

Just recently I realized that some people don't know how to use Google properly and that's why they have troubles finding what they need. So here's a tip (sorry if you already know it but I'm sure some people don't): if you don't want lots of useless garbage popping up in the search results just add the "+" before your keyword. Example: +[site name] +[scam]. Try it and you'll see much better looking results.

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Quote from: Red-Apple on November 22, 2016, 08:52:52 AM

Quote from: sulendra12 on November 22, 2016, 08:30:43 AM

Quote from: passivebesiege on November 21, 2016, 06:29:29 PM

Its their own fault they risk thier own money without even ask people or search it for thier own good to see of the site is scam or legit.

Correct , the laziness will leads you into the hell and be broken + regret for get scammed and absolutely they're fault for be lazy search the site before invest their money. Bought site , shady activities , unresponsive support ticket and etc are commonly the scammy site do.

It only takes min 5 minutes to do this , and it won't be affect with you but that's worth it for your money.

well, that is not always true!

for example people who lost money on many of the casinos when they invested in them like moneypot for example did research about it and moneypot or any others are not scam at all.

or for example those of us who lost money on bitfinex, cryptsy, btter, mtgox,... did our research and apart from some signs in some cases they weren't scams but some day they decided to run away.

what i want to say is that investment is risky and there is no escaping that, and i think we should keep it in mind after we excluded the scam ones from our list.

I was talking more specifically about sites that end up being scams, not ones that have proven very legit so far. Losing money due to being scammed is very different than simply losing money through gambling.

And yes I agree, it will always be risky. But again, research and diversification will always help minimize damage.

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Quote from: sulendra12 on November 22, 2016, 08:30:43 AM

Quote from: passivebesiege on November 21, 2016, 06:29:29 PM

Its their own fault they risk thier own money without even ask people or search it for thier own good to see of the site is scam or legit.

Correct , the laziness will leads you into the hell and be broken + regret for get scammed and absolutely they're fault for be lazy search the site before invest their money. Bought site , shady activities , unresponsive support ticket and etc are commonly the scammy site do.

It only takes min 5 minutes to do this , and it won't be affect with you but that's worth it for your money.

well, that is not always true!

for example people who lost money on many of the casinos when they invested in them like moneypot for example did research about it and moneypot or any others are not scam at all.

or for example those of us who lost money on bitfinex, cryptsy, btter, mtgox,... did our research and apart from some signs in some cases they weren't scams but some day they decided to run away.

what i want to say is that investment is risky and there is no escaping that, and i think we should keep it in mind after we excluded the scam ones from our list.

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Quote from: passivebesiege on November 21, 2016, 06:29:29 PM

Its their own fault they risk thier own money without even ask people or search it for thier own good to see of the site is scam or legit.

Correct , the laziness will leads you into the hell and be broken + regret for get scammed and absolutely they're fault for be lazy search the site before invest their money. Bought site , shady activities , unresponsive support ticket and etc are commonly the scammy site do.

It only takes min 5 minutes to do this , and it won't be affect with you but that's worth it for your money.

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you should also know that sometimes research is not going to cut it. specially when it comes to investing in something so risky like a bitcoin casino. if you check their histories they all had bad times and good. bad times in the sense that they house lost and their investors lost with them.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Marketing on November 21, 2016, 07:51:24 PM

Quote from: marlboroza on November 21, 2016, 03:53:36 PM

Its really hard for someone to just write in google: "site_name scam or legit" and do research.

No research leads to blind investment, leads to lost.
But keep in mind that these research is also problematic since 1.Each can find pros and cons published on the same source, hard to know what to believe 2.Even the legit, clean, know, popular ones - can run away with your funds.
If you ask me how to keep safe as much as possible, I would say, yes, make a good research but always spread your risks.

It is tough to figure out which sites are essentially just hidden frauds. I remember there was this cloud mining site that played a very long-con game, and in the end just up and ran with the money. I think it isn't realistic to expect to be able to research a site and determine that it is 100% legit (at least not with the current state of the bitcoin world). That being said, doing research SIGNIFICANTLY lowers the likelihood of getting scammed, and is an absolute must if you're looking to invest in any site.

As you said, "spreading your risks" is probably the most important single bit of advice you could give anyone looking to start investing.

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Quote from: passivebesiege on November 21, 2016, 06:29:29 PM

Quote from: rexxarofmoknathal on November 20, 2016, 10:35:08 PM

I think we've all seen this far too many times; somebody invests in a site that has been clearly identified as a scam by others, and then comes to their forum page to ask the admin about their payment. Recent example of this is people still trying to withdraw/deposit to diggit, even though it has been over a year since the site has been confirmed to no longer be running.

Can we all just take the time to research sites and ask around before we entrust them with our money? It'll save you the pain of knowing you just gave away money you can't reclaim, and helps reduce some of the unnecessary spam on here.

Sure, we could dismiss this as the fault of the person not looking into the site, but we should always encourage each other to be wiser and ultimately help create a positive community.

Happy gambling Cheesy

Its their own fault they risk thier own money without even ask people or search it for thier own good to see of the site is scam or legit.

You dont even need to search for some good sites to invest or to gamble, in bct there are tons of site that really give you the best. Let say if I am newbie but with this forum I can even know which site is really good and not just by looking into thread that many people watched and reply. So I dont even need to make some research on how well each site is

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Actually, it is very odd for a person to invest money on a platform which he/she is not familiar. Those persons who doesn't even bother to read or research are counted to be like 1 out of thousands (just a lucky guess).

Well, its a pity for them to lose their hard earned money thinking that they will actually earn on gambling investments.

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