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Topic: Please State What Criteria or Reasons Willing to Give Your MERITS to Someone? - page 2. (Read 831 times)

hero member
Activity: 2912
Merit: 613
To discover it, let's read two topics about from theymos. Why he decided to create the merit system and his advice to forum members exclusively newbies.

Merits should be awarded to members who have good contributions. Sometimes you can see some members exchange merit and it looks like they use merit as a like on social media. Anyway, it is not the main use case of merit on the forum and somewhat is not relevant to the main use case of the merit system.
Merits system will definitely serve as your motivation to improve your post quality and grow more in the forum. Merits will only be given to you once other members will see your post as a constructive and very productive. And as long as you always contribute good discussions and always attracts the attention of other members in a positive way, merits will be credited to you.
legendary
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1270
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It looks like the OP got some merit and tips and lessons on how and what to get merit for. But everyone who generously presented him did not explain to him that it would also be good to bestow merits on others. As you can see, the OP hasn't handed out any merits yet.
And as a bad example is contagious, I'm somehow sure that soon you will see a few more newcomers here who are also interested in the topic of merit, and hoping to get upfront just as easily and simply by changing the theme for newbies to META.  Cheesy
Well Pmalek actually did that, i assume you somewhat missed his post above, i will quote it for you below, i am also of the opinion that more users should be encouraged to join in the merit system (giving and receiving), though it is clearly understandable if a user doesn't really care about such, and then users who have such criteria that a user should be involved in the system before earning merits from them could also likewise skip their post in relation to merits, except it is a post of extremely high quality, just as Pmalek highlighted below. Having said that, we will see over the coming weeks if OP is the type that hoards merits; and God Meta has been somewhat free from newbies making a lot of threads about merits, so i really hope you're wrong and we do not go back to that Grin. Here is the post i spoke about earlier:
You are happy, confident, you feel appreciated, and liked when someone merits you, right? You think other people have recognized and appreciated your efforts. Well, I want to see that the people I merit do the same things for others. You have to be part of the system to benefit from it, in my opinion. If you only get merits, but you don't give any to other forum members, you are not part of the system and it's very unlikely you will be merited from me. Exceptions are high-quality posts by members who obviously couldn't care less about the merit system (receiving or giving), and new users (like yourself) who don't have any sMerits to give out. But now that you do, start spreading that feeling of appreciation and respect to other posts that you feel deserve it. Because next time I come across a post by you that I believe should be merited, I am going to check your merit history  Wink.
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 4265
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It looks like the OP got some merit and tips and lessons on how and what to get merit for. But everyone who generously presented him did not explain to him that it would also be good to bestow merits on others. As you can see, the OP hasn't handed out any merits yet.
And as a bad example is contagious, I'm somehow sure that soon you will see a few more newcomers here who are also interested in the topic of merit, and hoping to get upfront just as easily and simply by changing the theme for newbies to META.  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 2124
There is no certain fixed criteria for sending out merits and we all can give them as we feel satisfied as if you agree with some post or some good and useful information is being shared over the forum deserves merit but how many you want to give depends on you.Although there is limit of 50 smerits per user in 30 days so keep that in mind.

You have now 14 merits which will give you half the smerits which you can send to any user whose post you like so try giving it out.

I'm feeling generous today, so you got some merits that you can give out to a post or two that you like--and that's basically the criterion for why merits are distributed (or at least it should be). 
You feel generous most of the time helping them to reach next rank which is why you have the name on this list and we are familiar with your meriting policy also.

OP, you weren't here back before 2018 so you probably don't realize how bad this forum was back then before the merit system got created.  It was a measure taken by Theymos to curb the rampant shitposting by members in sig campaigns or bounties and to make it nearly impossible to farm accounts, i.e., create a bunch of them and rank them all up just by posting enough to gain enough activity. 
This merit system implementation was of great help to the forum to some extent as many of the shitposter who were unable to rank up left the forum rather than choosing to learn and make quality contributions to the forum.But still spam posting is there on forum but the aspect is accounts which are legendary or hero without a single merit but with lots of activity can't grow over the forum.So they will not be able to join any campaign also as most of them demands some earned merits in past 120 days.Overall implementation of this system is applauded by most of the forum members.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1150
but I'm wondering, what are the reasons or criteria that can make all friends in this forum willing to give merits to someone? Huh
The main criteria are quality, constructive and useful posts. Post criteria like that are expected to help users to get merit and rankup.
So far I don't have any specific criteria for post merit to someone but mostly use them on posts that I think are quality. Sometimes I can also send it to those who have helped me answer some doubts briefly and meaningfully, but the main criteria is quality posts.

The two points below may also be useful for you to consider when you want to give merit to other users, one important things are posts that are quality in your opinion.

What is Merit?
Merit is a new system created in order to reward quality contributions to the forum. Now to rise through ranks you will also need to acquire Merit in addition to Activity.

How do I receive merit?
You are awarded merit by people of the community if they find your post helpful or informative.



full member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 133
Just don't care about merits and you will get more merits automatically, it is like mirage in a desert, the more you run after it, the more away it goes from you, but just accept that you have to make good posts, posts which you are sure are not spams, which can consist from knowledge to your just opinion, and although quality matters a lot, sometimes even with the best of quality, you will not get merits, and hence, the best approach to it is to remove expectations, write and express without any expectations of anything in return and be content, and if you gain some merits after that, it will make you just happier Smiley
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 793
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What is my criteria when it comes to meriting a post is if it contains some content which I can learn something new or reminding of something which I know earlier but clear explanation of what is about and everyone have their own criteria and you don't need to convince anyone just stick with your own posting habits and let the merit senders attract towards you.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 2094
OP, I think by now you know some alan about your question in the thread and I think by now you should also know that you have broken rule No.32 for your reply, so please correct it. This means you will have to merge your last two posts into one post as they were created in less than 24 hours.

hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 743
To give you a personal breakdown of my criteria in sending sMERITS, please keep in mind that giving out such is purely discretionary on the part of the sender. While others may have their own criteria which may be entirely different than others, there is at least some commonality as to the benchmark of sending it. Nevertheless, here is mine:

  • Someone replied to my posts which further expounded the discussion on a certain topic;
  • Post contained useful information about cryptocurrencies in general; and
  • Scam reports which included substantial proof.

While the first two are self-explanatory, the third point is something that is beneficial to the forum. People who report scams (with substantial proof) should at least be rewarded with some merits.

at third point really caught my attention. because I didn't think of getting to this point to give my merits.
but after reading this i got a new insight which is true this point is very important for all forum members. especially for those who need information before someone is caught in a scam.

I myself have experienced being deceived by someone in 2021.
In 2021, there will be frauds under the guise of investing in telegram groups that promise double money and profits every day. because in the past I didn't know anything because there really wasn't any information that came to me. I also fell into their game of deception. after I investigated it turned out to be a ponzi scheme scam.
then from that incident and your reply in the above point. it makes it very useful if someone posts about a scam with valid evidence. and deserve to be rewarded merit.
hero member
Activity: 2212
Merit: 786
To give you a personal breakdown of my criteria in sending sMERITS, please keep in mind that giving out such is purely discretionary on the part of the sender. While others may have their own criteria which may be entirely different than others, there is at least some commonality as to the benchmark of sending it. Nevertheless, here is mine:

  • Someone replied to my posts which further expounded the discussion on a certain topic;
  • Post contained useful information about cryptocurrencies in general; and
  • Scam reports which included substantial proof.

While the first two are self-explanatory, the third point is something that is beneficial to the forum. People who report scams (with substantial proof) should at least be rewarded with some merits.
sr. member
Activity: 1064
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I am not very strict about giving my sMerits cause I know I am part of the ecosystem here in out forum so I give my sMerits to those who are worthy to be given or when I read their post or reply it was interesting or new to me like these so I ill give you a merit.
In addition what Other said if someone put an effort to his/her post and try to learn something new in my own perspective it is the example of worthy to be given.

hero member
Activity: 1764
Merit: 694
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I don't often use the bookmarks feature in my browser, so I use merit to mark posts as important and maybe it will be useful to me in the future. Or personally user X has a lot of informative posts for myself which with limited remaining smerit I can't give enough to all his posts at one time. To find all these references, BPIP helped me find my smerit spending history.

Sometimes I also violate my own terms of spending my smerit for other reasons.
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 7065
but I'm wondering, what are the reasons or criteria that can make all friends in this forum willing to give merits to someone? Huh
I shuffled your sentences to better answer your questions. I merit posts where I see that the user invested time and effort to write what they did. It's as simple as that. I put myself in their shoes and think how much time, knowledge, and effort would I need to write it the way they did. I don't have to agree with the content, but I am still going to reward that post. Well-reasoned, intelligent, or funny posts can also receive merits from me. 

Let's now talk about what I don't like to see. I am going to use your words because they fit in nicely with what I am trying to say:
but when someone gives me merits for the first time. I became very happy and began to understand the importance of merits.
Because I feel that my writing is appreciated by someone who gave me that merits.
You are happy, confident, you feel appreciated, and liked when someone merits you, right? You think other people have recognized and appreciated your efforts. Well, I want to see that the people I merit do the same things for others. You have to be part of the system to benefit from it, in my opinion. If you only get merits, but you don't give any to other forum members, you are not part of the system and it's very unlikely you will be merited from me. Exceptions are high-quality posts by members who obviously couldn't care less about the merit system (receiving or giving), and new users (like yourself) who don't have any sMerits to give out. But now that you do, start spreading that feeling of appreciation and respect to other posts that you feel deserve it. Because next time I come across a post by you that I believe should be merited, I am going to check your merit history  Wink.
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 1196
My criteria of meriting depends on my mood. But usually I give merit if someone shows me a solution or hint on problem I have or question I've asked. I can give merit to an explanation of something I dont understand, but this something must be that I search myself. Something not imposed. For example when I visit beginners section, I would not merit every single guide I see, but I will merit a guide of a crypto thing I find interesting and feel like I need to learn that.
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1824
I'm aware that many newbie members are asking the same question and trying to understand but there is no single answer.
We are all different and each of us has our reasons.
There are no rules for granting merits other than a ban on the sale of merits.
Personally, I always give merits for posts that bring some new value to the forum, with some new information, analysis, thinking etc.
Since I'm active in the Croatian part of the forum, I also opened a topic where all local members can report their quality posts on the forum and get merits.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 816
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I can't call myself the one who distributes merits very often, because I'm not very high-rank yet, and each of my smerit is derived from the merits sent to me. Although I already know that there are merit sources on the forum, and when the merit system was introduced, high-rank users received a certain number of smerit by default and could distribute them before they received their merits and converted to smerit. That's why I'm very picky about my desire to send merit to someone, because I think of them as a finite set, and I don't want a situation where I want to give a merit to a member and not have it.

For me, the main criterion for meriting posts is based on how I see the forum. This is a platform for discussions. These discussions are based on arguments put forward by users in support of their positions. It often happens that I do not agree with the position of a member, but I like the way he argues and justifies it, because it is convincing, and makes me think about the appropriateness of another point of view. And it expands my ideas and horizons. The same criterion applies to those arguments that support the same position as my own. I and some other forum member may be in the same standpoint, but someone has found a better argument to support this view, and I appreciate it, because it helps to strengthen my own viewpoint.

legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 2017
but I'm wondering, what are the reasons or criteria that can make all friends in this forum willing to give merits to someone? Huh

The only thing I would like to add to what has been said is that they are called "merits" for a reason. In theory you should give them to someone because you believe that what that person has written has merit.

But as pooya87 says everyone does their own thing. There are times when merits are given not so much because people believe that what the other has written has merit, but simply because they agree with what he/she says, without the post merited expressing any profound idea, nor has it taken much effort to write it.

The thing is that now you already have some smerits to send, so you can start practicing, while you keep on noticing how others give merits.



legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 10611
but I'm wondering, what are the reasons or criteria that can make all friends in this forum willing to give merits to someone?
I'd like to think of the merit system as the like button on most social media platforms or the upvote button in sites such as Reddit. Merits in bitcointalk is a way to make a post stand out so that readers skimming through a topic could find the "best" replies and read them. There were even talks about add a "sort" feature where you could sort posts based on number of merits they've received (it wasn't implemented though).
The only difference is that you have to "earn the power to upvote" on bitcointalk. It doesn't come free. To do that you have to receive merits yourself.

There really isn't any fixed criteria, everyone does their own thing. It may be a post that made you chuckle or a well written guide that is useful for everyone like this.
legendary
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Merit: 4265
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Why are these questions in META? OP, please move your thread to the Newbies section, there is plenty of information from equally curious newbies who are interested in merit for bounty and subscription companies.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=39.0

I read your story, in fact, this issue seems to be of great concern to you, and you have repeatedly asked about it in your Indonesian section.
this is very interesting . quite clearly shows who is the benefactor giving or sending merit.
but out of that as a beginner, of course I have to be the one who gives good and interesting posts so that there are benefactors who want to give me awards according to their standards. and this award is very useful for newbies like me
I think you have already been given a lot of advice on how to get merit, but you stubbornly do not understand. If this continues, your journey with merit may be a long one. Learn faster.
hero member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 843
I don't think it should be debatable when someone give their merit because different user had different criteria, but "quality post" criteria will always included on every users. It doesn't matter which user it is, his religion, his personality, his negative feedback or even got banned. As long as I read the post can be useful to anyone, I will give him merit. Don't need to worry, if you have given someone merit and no one discuss you on Reputation board, pretty sure you have doing right about meriting someone.
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