Please stop the 'manipulation' bullshit. - page 2.

porcupine87

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hm

Quote from: Skoupi on October 26, 2014, 11:15:38 AM

Quote from: porcupine87 on October 26, 2014, 11:05:09 AM

The price is going down because Bitcoin is disappointing. Noone is using it.

True. The only thing more dissapointing than bitcoin was the internet during the 90s...
hmm Roll Eyes

You can't compare the internet to Bitcoin. Sure, many people didn't know the use of it 20 years ago. But it was a completely new thing. Bitcoin is money. My girlfriend (25 years old) just recently decided to use online banking. To have a facebook profile, paypal etc. is ok. But money? If you have it cash in your purse many people feel more safe. And Bitcoin? Even if people know that it exists they don't trust it.

And the advantages? I know, they exist. But in my opinion they are too small to switch. If there will be a new financial crisis and the Dollar/Euro are losing trust Bitcoin's time woudl arrive! Otherwise ist is difficulty.

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Quote from: porcupine87 on October 26, 2014, 11:05:09 AM

The price is going down because Bitcoin is disappointing. Noone is using it.

True. The only thing more dissapointing than bitcoin was the internet during the 90s...
hmm Roll Eyes

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People lose money - they need someone to take the blame for their bad decisions. The manipulator threads are generally bearish.

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hm

Quote from: Kontridder on October 25, 2014, 04:07:20 PM

Nobody is manipulating the price , we are going nowhere but down cut you loose.

+1

And stop saying the guy who sold 30 000btc at $300 wanted to manipulating the price down to buy new coins. Ask him when we are down at $10.

The price is going down because Bitcoin is disappointing. Noone is using it.

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Quote from: RoadStress on October 26, 2014, 10:28:13 AM

Quote from: touhonoob on October 26, 2014, 10:22:44 AM

someone with too much money
buy otc => dump on exchanges
easy manipulation

Isn't buying otc more expensive? Why would anyone do that just to keep the exchange rate low? What's the gain?

Correct, OTC is more expensive.

People usually buy from the exchanges to sell OTC.

Or, they find a OTC miner that can sell below bitstamp then they turn around and sell to retail buyers OTC (rather than making a tiny % selling on exchange).

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Quote from: touhonoob on October 26, 2014, 10:22:44 AM

someone with too much money
buy otc => dump on exchanges
easy manipulation

Isn't buying otc more expensive? Why would anyone do that just to keep the exchange rate low? What's the gain?

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someone with too much money
buy otc => dump on exchanges
easy manipulation

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Monero - secure, private and untraceable currency.

FFS, Bitcoin can't be manipulated! Fiat can, Bitcoin is first true market! NO MANIPULATION WITH BITCOIN. Yes, there are pumps & dumps but it takes risk.

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Quote from: dropt on October 25, 2014, 05:12:31 PM

No one is manipulating the market?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptostock-bitcoin-algorithmic-trading-fund-ipo-pre-ipo-interest-gathering-821365

This clown is openly looking for investors to do exactly that.

Yet another 'investment fund'... I rank the odds of any funds sent to this person actually being used for the purpose described as Very Low.

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manipulation [muh-nip-yuh-ley-shuh n]

1. used to describe alleged artificial movements when price does not trend in the intended direction.

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Will be buying in again when it hits 300$.

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Hold and hold...

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Quote from: dropt on October 25, 2014, 05:12:31 PM

No one is manipulating the market?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptostock-bitcoin-algorithmic-trading-fund-ipo-pre-ipo-interest-gathering-821365

This clown is openly looking for investors to do exactly that.

First I hated these manipulations, now I am learning to love them. It's a free market after all and this was bound to happen sooner or later and in open public or not. He is just another guy trying to catch what he think is an opportunity. Grab your popcorn because the winter is coming!

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Welcome back fallling. I thought we had loost you...

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Quote from: Robert Paulson on October 25, 2014, 05:42:14 PM

buying and selling bitcoin is not manipulation.
every owner has the right to do whatever he wants with his bitcoins.

manipulation is when banks buy government bonds with printed money.
or when banks sell future contracts on gold without having any gold in the vault.
or when the central bank arbitrarily sets the price of money (that is the interest rate) at X or Y instead of letting the free market decide what it should be.

Thats not true. Maipulation is also when one sets orders that are "fake" - walls that are not wanted to be executed, that run dumps on several exchanges at the same time, try to control sentiment on forums and news sites, extensively react to news, spread FUD...

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Quote from: 8up on October 25, 2014, 04:21:10 PM

Quote from: Kontridder on October 25, 2014, 04:07:20 PM

Nobody is manipulating the price , we are going nowhere but down cut you loose.

haha good one made me chuckle Grin

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Quote from: Kontridder on October 25, 2014, 04:07:20 PM

Nobody is manipulating the price , we are going nowhere but down cut you loose.

okay guys time to cut your looses lol. Grin

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buying and selling bitcoin is not manipulation.
every owner has the right to do whatever he wants with his bitcoins.

manipulation is when banks buy government bonds with printed money.
or when banks sell future contracts on gold without having any gold in the vault.
or when the central bank arbitrarily sets the price of money (that is the interest rate) at X or Y instead of letting the free market decide what it should be.

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No one is manipulating the market?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptostock-bitcoin-algorithmic-trading-fund-ipo-pre-ipo-interest-gathering-821365

This clown is openly looking for investors to do exactly that.

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Quote from: Kontridder on October 25, 2014, 04:07:20 PM

Nobody is manipulating the price , we are going nowhere but down cut you loose.

Just take a short position and you'll be rich guy. Kiss

I buy some coins. We will see who is facing a nice Xmas

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