Topic: PM from betnomi. - page 2. (Read 1230 times)

In essence, PM and red trust, @betnomi, I feel upset over the PM done by @betnomi, clearly @betnomi won negative trust from trusted DT members in handling fraud cases, forgery of the Bounty campaign. I clearly do not believe them in this matter.

Allegations against the Bounty campaign managed by: @betnomi.
Beginning of the problem.


He had mistakenly entered his own anal canal, by asking other members to put positive trust and eliminate negative, that is not true.
From the campaign that he manages, and shows a new campaign managed by @ yahoo62278 at this time, in my judgment @betnomi is a sheep complainant / between @manejer and DT members who give negative to him.
If necessary I will add red confidence to the bounty campaign allegations of their fake team, annoying.

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@ yahoo62278, for the time being it has nothing to do with you in this case, you have mentioned it here.


After all, you don't manage their Bounty campaigns, you only manage game campaigns on their site platforms.
Of course they pay you first to save funds for participants who take part in the campaign race.

Here you are clearly not involved in their fake team, because you directly and the campaign that you manage does not have reports on twitter, facebook, telegram etc.

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The problematic is the Bounty campaign managed by @betnomi, why did he send all the PMs now, with almost the same reason, and he shows the campaign that you are managing now, I suspect this is not true, there are traps and sheep fighting between the current manager with DT that gives red confidence to @betnomi.

I agree with yahoo62278 on this matter, if a project is a actually scam, when they are found out, they will definitely leave and come back with another name we can't recognize to continue the scam. But Betnomi didn't do that, they realized their wrong and had developed their project for over a year, no money was taken away from users with an ICO. No money was donated nor any money was stolen. So no matter who the team behind Betnomi is, they've done everything on their own. They invest effort and money in their website, so, why can't we give them a chance to operate transparently here? The trust cannot be proved in a day, two days or a week, but it can be proved for months, years. They rushed to text a lot of people here, but just let them know they shouldn't do it, an advice on how to work on this forum would be better than a criticism. Time will tell whether they're trustworthy or fraudsters 

No, I hadn't handle any campaign for free. But it doesn't mean I will have to handle any campaign who have tagged by multiple DT members (just ignore my tag). I wouldn't mind if any site become scam after you took work. On that case you might stop campaign immediately. But they were accused from beginning and punished from multiple DT members. I wouldn't ignore them since accusations is valid and I respect to the trust system. That's the reason I ignore their offer.


No, I am not familiar with the team that you have mentioned above gambling sites nor I have question about them, because on the crypto industry team isn't mandatory since we believe on decentralized ecosystem. But usually when the team use fake image at least I couldn't trust them with my funds. If any team really want to stay anonymous then just enough not to use any photo. Using fake team means they are making fool to their investors. No matter they hadn't raised fund or failed to raise fund due to fake team accusation. If you are the owner of a site and you collect team members from somewhere then it's your responsibility to verify if provide image is real. Explanation and blam to that member that they provide fake image isn't convincible.  

Personally, it sounds like they were offering to compensate you if you worked with them on their campaigns. I cannot see the whole pm, but i'm not reading anything that's saying give us positive rep and we will pay you. I'm reading "we will compensate you for your work".

Do you handle other sites campaigns for free? you see an opportunity to look good and twist it to your liking?

Fair point here as far as fake team goes, but do you know what all the other gambling site owners look like? Baryom from Bitsler? Ethan from yolodice? Devans from bustabit/bustadice? Rhaver former owner of both? Dooglus from Just dice? This is not an attack on other gambling site owners, just making a small point. Coolcryptovator has a point as well. Teams that post fake pics usually have the intentions on scamming and running off.

I am not saying that posting fake team pics is a great thing to do, nor am I saying it wasn't a bad thing to do. The explanation I was given is someone who was part of the old team did all that. True? I don't know.

They are a gambling site, same as the rest. I cannot say they will not scam in the future(Dean Nolan of Betking DogeDigital/Ranlo/Altcoin LLC of moneypot as examples. not all tagged examples either). Cannot say they will or won't run off today or 5 years from now.

If they do scam you'll be able to say, well I told you so, but I'm just taking a chance that they are trying to run shit honestly. They could burn me too. If they were trying to run another ICO I would have steered clear but this is a gambling site. If Legitimate accusations pop up then all promotions cease, that has been stated.

I think Yahoo is correct and clear in his stance that if the team has decided to work in a fair manner, encourage them and let them have a breathing space. Also if they plan to scam again (which does not look at the moment), they will lose all the investments which they are doing to improve their reputation.

I am the one who tag them first for fake team accusation. They have sent me PM as well before they start review campaign. They had tried convince me to work with them. But I just ignore their PM. But its seems they want to remove their negative feedback very quickly and offering bribe indirectly. See the last part of their message,

As like you we also want to see more bitcoin business here, but it doesn't mean we should give them opportunities once again since they have open accusation. I don't know how you consider fake team accusation as a "little thing". Why should we wait for another scammy behavior since we had encountered something similar behavior previously. Have you seen their accusation thread and have you noticed any defensive reply from them? Had you asked why they didn't defended themselves if they were legit?

However it's your personal issue either will you work with them or not but I don't think they would recover their reputation by this way. Most import questions is, if they run with fund in near future who will be responsible since they were accused previously for fake team and you are the one who promoting them on the forum?

I spoke with the owner and brought up this thread. I let them know their mistake and told them relax a little. The owner is just trying to improve the reputation due to their past and is trying to fix things, but is trying to move quickly without knowing how the forum works.

I'm not sure how many users were messaged but I would assume that everyone who is on the flag could possibly have been messaged. I have told them to refrain from this type of activity and let's work on improving their reputation the correct way and in time users may revise their trust and stance on the flag.

I have ran 1 successful promotion with them and agree that that 1 promo alone is not enough to change their image, but have advised them that if they run their game without any hitches, stay active on the forum and answer users questions and concerns, and show that they are running a legit business that all things can change in time.

They didn't collect or take any money during the almost ran ICO, which is 1 reason I agreed to try and help them out. Had they taken money and disappeared then I would have told them fuck off quick. I am giving them a chance to prove they are legit. Not everyone who visits this forum is aware of all the rules or where to find them.

I want to see more bitcoin businesses in this space but red tagging everyone for little things is not how we keep businesses around. If they start showing scammy behavior, then I would expect everyone to jump on the red tag train, but for now let's see how it goes.

I received the same, and most bothering was:

I too was contacted by Betnomi via PM with the same message as I had supported the flag but didn't leave negative feedback. I also participated in their review campaign and think that they are sketchy. This was my review -


I didn't get a reply from them at that time. In provably fair games, users are to be provided with the seed hash prior to the game to prove that the results aren't predetermined or manipulated. In the case of Betnomi, they give you server seed but not the output hash. The result is generated by merging the server seed with the first three clients' seeds.  Even if you are one of the first client seed, in no way you can know the other two client seed provided are not manipulative figures.

I still believe they are sketchy and would not remove my support unless they come clean about the fake team and about how the game works.

The scam accusation was made over a year ago, and they even never bothered to respond to it or clear up the air. Why now?
Instead, what they did was this;



I didn't send them any negative feedback or support the type 1 flag back then but this is unprofessional and dishonest behavior by a platform which i can never trust with my money.

I think this was the case. I do not support users sending duplicate PM's to forum members, however they seem to have a lack of understanding of how the forum works.
I supported the flag and also did a review on their site, for which I gave a positive rating, purely based on the working of the website.

My reply to them would be to; provide sufficient evidence to prove their innocence on the matter. And those who left a negative rating in their account would review their stance on the situation. Sending unsolicited PM's could lead to more negative attention.

They made a new campaign and they are paying 0.0007 BTC to 50 people. I was paid.

Ofc this is not enough to prove anything... they  are accused of a very dishonest behavior, using other people' pictures in their team without authorization. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/old-file-to-erase-5104319

It is very hard to clean up a reputation once you tainted it...

I think he didn't express what he saw correctly, or he misunderstood the meaning of negative trust. He seems to have sent messages to all those who left negative trust for him as well as supporters of the flag on his account. Anyway, I think they are anxious to be active on this forum without any problems. It is easy to understand. In addition, marlboroza has also changed his feedback to be neutral, which is a good sign for betnomi.

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There is still much to handle around them, a review campaign is not enough to prove anything

User: betnomi

It looks like @betnomi, mistakenly entered the room, he sent the PM and said to give up the red faith and add positivity to it, this is a mess to me.
It seems like me and @betnomi have never dealt with their gambling sites or project campaign and the red trust right now, which is in their belief.


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