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Topic: PM Poker • 2.50 mBTC Signup Bonus (PM Satoshi's) • Low Play = No Rake No Fee (Read 2519 times)

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Actually this is not a new site, as you can see..this thread is created more than a year ago.
But I guess the site get less interest than they expected, perhaps because they dont have HTML5 client. As what you said, most people need to think so many times before they download and install a software on their own PC.

Yes we are not a new site, but we did have some growing pains in regards to the

You are correct in stating we are not a new site.  We had some serious growing pains in regards to the client software, but we do feel most of these are resolved.

HTML5 client would be nice and we see the need but their not nearly as fixable or robust as a download client.

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Can i play using mobile??

At this time we are a download only.  We have plans to making it HTML5 and mobile.

Waiting your HTML5 and mobile released, i'll be participant when your HTML5 ready. I'm  worry about download program just for playing poker and your site is still new site

Actually this is not a new site, as you can see..this thread is created more than a year ago.
But I guess the site get less interest than they expected, perhaps because they dont have HTML5 client. As what you said, most people need to think so many times before they download and install a software on their own PC.
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Can i play using mobile??

At this time we are a download only.  We have plans to making it HTML5 and mobile.

Waiting your HTML5 and mobile released, i'll be participant when your HTML5 ready. I'm  worry about download program just for playing poker and your site is still new site
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Hi PM - I'm looking to start playing again, and happy to see a new site. But I just tell you, I used to play some step system at CardPlayer Poker and the whole regime just felt like an endless tease. If I do end up spending time at your site, it most likely won't be for that ... there will have to be other tournaments or some ring activity. Thanks, I'll have a look.

Thank you for the comment. 

We’re very interested in gaining attraction to our Ring and tournaments.  Besides the needed players, is their anything we can offer that differs from other sites to drive traffic.

We really want to be the premier Bitcoin poker, and focus on customer service.
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PM Poker are offering all new signups with a validated email 2.50 mBTC in PM Satoshi's to try our site.

We believe we have some of the best software, and will provide games that players want.

With this bonus you also can participate in our 10,000 Step Giveaway.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/10000-entry-giveaway-pm-pokers-25000-m-sweet-16-step-sit-n-go-1073113

All we ask is that you give us a try.

Hi PM - I'm looking to start playing again, and happy to see a new site. But I just tell you, I used to play some step system at CardPlayer Poker and the whole regime just felt like an endless tease. If I do end up spending time at your site, it most likely won't be for that ... there will have to be other tournaments or some ring activity. Thanks, I'll have a look.
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PM Poker are offering all new signups with a validated email 2.50 mBTC in PM Satoshi's to try our site.

We believe we have some of the best software, and will provide games that players want.

With this bonus you also can participate in our 10,000 Step Giveaway.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/10000-entry-giveaway-pm-pokers-25000-m-sweet-16-step-sit-n-go-1073113

All we ask is that you give us a try.
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Can i play using mobile??

At this time we are a download only.  We have plans to making it HTML5 and mobile.
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Interesting concept. I am a live player ...

Are there ANY players, playing anything this week? When am I most likely to find some action?

We are trying to build a player base again, the issues we had caused us to be down for an extended period of time.

So at this time we don't have a set time to find action.
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Interesting concept. I am a live player ...

Are there ANY players, playing anything this week? When am I most likely to find some action?
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Hi PM,

You are in a tough market.

I've currently got five poker clients already downloaded onto my machine, and those are the sites I rarely play. I've been regularly playing at about 5 other btc sites that don't require a download.

So ..., in your honest opinion, should I download your client? Why?

Indamuck

We had the below written up, so now is a good time to post it, which goes into detail of how our software works.  But on a personal side, we are here for our customers, and take great pride in our support.  It is very difficult to convince players to move to a new site like ours, put we believe that once players experience what we have to offer, they will stay and tell friends and so on.



While there are many poker sites, they all tend to use the same underlying software.  The issue is poker software is very complicated, and many developers take the easy way out, resulting in many noticeable flaws and deviance from actual live poker play.

Our software has been under dedicated development for years, and therefore is not just “copycat” online poker software.  Many online players have never experienced the pleasure of playing live poker, and when they experience live poker for the first time, the difference in play is often confusing.  Online poker software does not mimic real poker action, and this is why we offer “True Vegas Style Poker”™.

There are really only two types of play: Ring Game and Tournament play (this includes Sit & Go’s).  We will explain how PM Poker differentiates itself from the other sites.

Ring Games

When you walk into a poker room in Vegas as a player, you can't randomly sit down at any table you want, nor are you permitted to pick up your chips at one table and move to another table on your own.  When entering a poker room, you must sign in and tell the poker manager (or “HOST”) the game you are interested in playing.

Many poker rooms have what they call “main tables” and “must-move tables”.  A must-move table is a secondary table where players can play, but will be forced to move to a main table when seats open.  This system keeps the main tables as full as possible for optimal play. 

When playing at a table, a player may believe their seat is unlucky, or they may not like sitting next to a particular player, and will ask the dealer for a seat change.  These requests are fulfilled in the order of players requesting, and when possible to do so.  Players may also request a table change from the HOST if they simply don’t like the action at their table.

These are just a few examples of poker etiquette that take place in real poker rooms, and yet they're forgotten and/or abandoned in most online games.  We are offering the real poker experience at PM Poker, where a player selects the type of game they want without hunting down a table.  A player will most likely be seated at a must-move table (unless player volume is low), and will be moved based on “first in, first out”.  We have a maximum of two must-move tables, and should a third must-move table be required, the oldest must-move table will become a main game table.

At other poker sites, seat change requests seem nonexistent. The “Sit Here” function these sites use is not a seat change; it merely rotates the view and gives the player the impression of changing seats.  If a player wants a different seat they must cash-out from the table and then rejoin and pick a different seat, if there is one still available after the cash-out. Many players choose not to do this, because it requires leaving their table, then trying to rejoin that table, join another table, or being placed on a waiting list. 

At PM Poker, we offer actual seat changes whereby a player can request a specific seat, or any seat that becomes available.  We also offer a “Sit Here” feature, which rotates the table view to the player's preference.

Many online poker sites will allow a player to leave (cash out) and return to the table with fewer funds, thereby removing money from the table. A good poker room HOST will not allow this to happen.  If a player cashes out from their table, they must buy back in for the same amount they cashed out for up to one hour.  PM Poker software also does this by enforces a buy-in requirement for a period of one hour, should a player leave and come back (only within the same game variant and stakes).

Real poker rooms have a minimum chip unit at the table (mostly $1 chip minimum) and tend to never have games using smaller denominations.  When betting, a player cannot wager in units less than the minimum chip. This is where online poker differentiates itself by allowing much smaller units, and not necessarily for the better. There are a few problems with this, starting with collusion. Unscrupulous players may use odd betting amounts to inform their accomplices at the table.  By maintaining the integrity of real poker rooms, we automatically discourage negative poker play and poor betting practices.

The “Rake” is the house fee taken from the pot, based on a percentage of the pot. Commonly, this is 10% with a cap of $3 - $5, depending on the poker room.  Since the rake is taken using a physical chip in a poker room, the house tends not to rake until the minimum chip unit is passed.  In other words, they don't take “fractions” of a chip. Online poker rooms may offer lower rake percentages, but these are extremely misleading since they will rake in $0.01 units and thereby increasing the house's take of the pot. 

PM Poker software is designed to mimic the advantages of using actual physical chips at the table.  Betting must be based on the minimum chip at the table.  For example, in $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold’em, the smallest chip in the game is $0.25.  We also offer a 5% rake with a cap of a large blind, and we only rake based on the minimum chip.  Here is an easy example of a 5% rake using $0.01 raking:

Game pot is $3.25 * 5% (rake) = $0.16, whereas using a physical chip unit of $0.25 would rake $0.00.

We believe this provides much more fairness to the players, especially with smaller pots, and keeps player balances always within the minimum chip units.

Tournament Games

A poker tournament is a scheduled poker event involving a number of players with a specific number of tournament chips.  Tournament chips do not represent real money, but are instead similar to “play money”.  Just like Ring Games, there is a minimum chip unit used and is the same at all tables in the tournament.  As play continues, the minimum chip unit can also increase when the smaller denominations become unnecessary.  This process is called coloring up and done on regular intervals.
 
Seating in a tournament should be random, and many poker rooms now implement a ticketing system to ensure fairness.

PM Poker follows the standard tournament rules, and makes sure the seating of players is completely random.  We also only allow betting based on the minimum chip unit within the tournament.  Like real poker tournaments, once a smaller chip is no longer needed, our software will do the coloring up process.

One of the most difficult jobs of a tournament HOST is to maintain table equality within the tournament.  To move a player fairly, the HOST looks at the dealer (button) position in which a table requires a player, and selects a player from a higher table number equal to the distance from the button, or best moving outcome for the moving player.

Many online sites ignore this complexity and just shuffle players randomly about.  PM Poker takes the time to move players based on the button position if possible, and from a higher table if possible.  We always try to collapse tables from highest to lowest, so that table #1 should always be the final table.  This makes for better tournament play when you know the final table.

We also do the traditional online break on all tournament tables at 55 minutes past the hour.  At that time, all tournament level timers are stopped for a 5 minute break.  Players will not lose time on a level because of a break.

Sit & Go Games

Sit & Go games are non-scheduled events and begin immediately once the number of qualified players for a table is met.  Our software will not seat two players known for colluding in the same game.

All other Sit & Go play is the same as the Tournament Games.

Newly introduced is our Sweet Sixteen Step Sit-n-Go which we will be posting later today.
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Hi PM,

You are in a tough market.

I've currently got five poker clients already downloaded onto my machine, and those are the sites I rarely play. I've been regularly playing at about 5 other btc sites that don't require a download.

So ..., in your honest opinion, should I download your client? Why?
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Good to know you are doing work continuously and thanks for updates. You need to be more active at least in 2/3 times a week to keep the players interest in your site.

We could not agree more with you.  The issue we had was that when a tournament started it knocked everyone out but one player, and nobody could get back in.  It took us some time to find this issue, and we fixed other major bugs at that time too. 

Thank you very much for your comment.

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Good to know you are doing work continuously and thanks for updates. You need to be more active at least in 2/3 times a week to keep the players interest in your site.
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Sorry for the long absence, but during the last 30+ days, we have made serious improvements in the stability of our software, for all our games.

To answer your question from a month ago, we will be requiring 1 full table to start, but as of now the requirement has been reduced to 7 players.

All games buy-in are in m฿, and all tournaments times are in the player’s local timezone.

We know offer Ring games ranging from 0.01/0.02 up to 50/100, with 6 player tables on lower limit games.  We have a large blind max rake or 25 m฿ which ever is less.

Yes our play volume is extremely low currently, but we are also seeking table starters (proppers).  If you are interested in playing and helping please let us know through a private message.

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How many people does it take to start the tournament ?

I too would be interested to know this, it looks like a well put together site it just needs players bums on seats and I am sure it will be a great site to play at. Have you seen the amount of side games it has lol It is basically a casino as well as a poker site. I will get on later see if we can't get a game started. Have you got any promotional/marketing planned for the future OP you need something to get people to notice over the rest of the poker sites.
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How many people does it take to start the tournament ?
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1,000 Starting Chips
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How do i convert these PM satoshis to bitcoins
i was able to buy some scratcher tickets when my mbtc balance was 0 with PMs
but after i won it will take straight from my bitcoin balance  

Also can i ask for few people to join the 8.10 pm ET freeroll
I think we only need like 6 or 8 people regged and logged in
and then everybody will win 3 dollars worth of btc without even playing

When you have PM Satoshis you can use them to play any game.  Once your balance reaches ZERO it will use them, any time your account has mBTC balance it will use the mBTC before using PM Satoshis.

If you win more then you wagered with PM Satoshis those extra funds are in your mBTC balance.  Example: Purchase 1 mBTC Scratcher with PM Satoshis, and win 10 mBTC.  Your account will be credited with 9 mBTC and the 100,000 PM Satoshis will be credited back too.

If you hover over your balance area and click, you can view your playable balance.  Our system automatically converts your points for play, this is an easy way to know where you stand.
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How do i convert these PM satoshis to bitcoins
i was able to buy some scratcher tickets when my mbtc balance was 0 with PMs
but after i won it will take straight from my bitcoin balance 

Also can i ask for few people to join the 8.10 pm ET freeroll
I think we only need like 6 or 8 people regged and logged in
and then everybody will win 3 dollars worth of btc without even playing

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