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Topic: Poker automatics scam--How I lost 9 BTC plus $12000 by a deliberately fraud (Read 15675 times)

legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™

And this suspicion caused me starting screenshot my account and my operations from Sep 25 to Oct 07 prepared as the "proof" in case of some unexpected scam happened.
Unfortunately, my suspicion finally became a reality, and every screenshot I made became the solid proof of a deliberately selective scam.
On Sep 27 2015 when the $12000 120 days project finally expired.

your evidence is very damning of pokeram. Almost perfect.

If i was to have one suspicion of you, its in the part I quoted above. My spidey senses are tingling because its all too perfect. Considering the emails pokeram has shared it does make me wonder who is lying, looks like the perfect set-up from you OR the not so perfect defence by pokeram.



i agree with you but think of this.. he said he took out 7k and left in 5k
so what is the OP scamming for another duplicate withdrawal of 7k ?
Why would he try and take out 7k twice AND leave in 5k still ?
Recap !
He can honestly take out 12k
or
Run some elaborate scam with drama for 14k

Based on what i see here i think the OP is honestly telling his story.

He had little to gain..
Why would he kill his cash cow for a possible 2 grand ?
I believe the OP.

Also notice this site was regged in 2004.. using a hiding service.

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Domain Name: POKERAM.COM
Registry Domain ID: 126162548_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.internet.bs
Registrar URL: http://www.internetbs.net
Updated Date: 2015-12-12T10:27:36Z
Creation Date: 2004-08-01T06:27:09Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2030-01-22T04:59:59Z
Registrar: Internet Domain Service BS Corp.
Registrar IANA ID: 2487
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +44.7546458118
Reseller:
Domain Status: ok - http://www.icann.org/epp#ok
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited - http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Domain Admin
Registrant Organization: Whois Privacy Corp.
Registrant Street: Ocean Centre, Montagu Foreshore, East Bay Street
Registrant City: Nassau
Registrant State/Province: New Providence
Registrant Postal Code: 0000
Registrant Country: BS
Registrant Phone: +1.5163872248
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [email protected]
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Domain Admin
Admin Organization: Whois Privacy Corp.
Admin Street: Ocean Centre, Montagu Foreshore, East Bay Street
Admin City: Nassau
Admin State/Province: New Providence
Admin Postal Code: 0000
Admin Country: BS
Admin Phone: +1.5163872248
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: [email protected]
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Domain Admin
Tech Organization: Whois Privacy Corp.
Tech Street: Ocean Centre, Montagu Foreshore, East Bay Street
Tech City: Nassau
Tech State/Province: New Providence
Tech Postal Code: 0000
Tech Country: BS
Tech Phone: +1.5163872248
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: [email protected]
Name Server: ns1.ddos-guard.net
Name Server: ns2.ddos-guard.net
Name Server: ns3.ddos-guard.net
Name Server: ns4.ddos-guard.net
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-01-02T20:35:40Z <<<

The domain's been registered for 11-12 years, but has never been indexed due to robots: http://web.archive.org/web/*/pokeram.com I got an idea! Let's start an online company but don't allow the search engines to index the site, thus nobody will ever find us. But, we'll pay referral fees to an SEO expert named JEFF to created traffic for us. Genius!

Robots.txt ..hahha yeah that is funny !

And Jeff Ownby ?
Are we looking for him (or the name he switched to later) ?

And HOW legit was this guys defending it on the previous page ? LOL

Oh and those stats quoted earlier are hilarious  Cheesy
newbie
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lfo
member
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BNM founder
oh, hey Phildo, i mean dildo. You are just as part of the problem online as any. You bs remarks make room for a punch in the face
\\WHACK\\!
pfft.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Angry Still a bunch of crap that these even are allowed to existing more than a day IMHO. Where is the internet police? Oh yeah, they are prolly helping em scam

I'm sure the "internet police" have much more important things to do than stopping people from handing their money over to obvious scams.
member
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 Angry Still a bunch of crap that these even are allowed to existing more than a day IMHO. Where is the internet police? Oh yeah, they are prolly helping em scam
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Good job putting such money in a HYIP...
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1000
i hope karma finds them

Why should karma hit them? Its not like they really had bots playing poker lol. It was obvious from the start that they were rolling investors funds. The change of ownership and crap were just an excuse for delayed payment. Humans with their excuses.


that is something i didnt know .

I'm not trying to be mean, but if you didn't realize that this was a ponzi scam disguised as a poker operation, you really need to do A LOT more research before your next attempted investment.

Anyone with one ounce of knowledge of how poker works, particularly poker staking, would have realized this was fraudulent. even if you don't have that knowledge, which is vey possible, trying to figure out how poker/poker staking works even a little bit would have clued you in.

No one, especially no random person on the internet, is going to give you a fre lunch. Before you do an "investment," figure out how exactl they are going to be making money for themselves and for you, and find out why they need your money and what they are going to do with it. Trying to do that it this scenario would have shown you that this was a fraud 5 minutes into your searching.
hero member
Activity: 758
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i hope karma finds them

Why should karma hit them? Its not like they really had bots playing poker lol. It was obvious from the start that they were rolling investors funds. The change of ownership and crap were just an excuse for delayed payment. Humans with their excuses.


that is something i didnt know .
hero member
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chickens and cryptos
pokeram.com is down,  thanks alot marty from ispace.com who advertised it on that website.. 
hero member
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i hope karma finds them

Why should karma hit them? Its not like they really had bots playing poker lol. It was obvious from the start that they were rolling investors funds. The change of ownership and crap were just an excuse for delayed payment. Humans with their excuses.
hero member
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i hope karma finds them
jr. member
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nobody mess with hyps and thinks that its risk free. you know that you are risking your money, you lose, your problem, start again its life
lfo
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BNM founder
So now pokeram is officially busted eh?
www.pokeram.com
not working anymore i see....
Or just a server change to delaware since the resale of company and site>?
You be the judge judy here folks.
invest in life.... Smiley
offline life with lfomaps.com
#feelthebern?
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1000
weird payments were sent out yesterday through stp and okpay no bitcoin yet

Just a guess, but they probably have to do a little more payouts from those methods because they have money left in those accounts that can be taken when people can complain about lack of payment. No such luck when you are being your own bank with bitcoin.
hero member
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weird payments were sent out yesterday through stp and okpay no bitcoin yet
full member
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According to a critical mass of HYIP monitor sites, Poker Automatics has finally gone belly up.

That is all.

sr. member
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Merit: 250
This is nothing surprising... HYIPs are ponzis. Ponzis are scams.

You chose to trust a scammer, and that's what you deserve.
sr. member
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Verify my Bitcoin Address before EVERY transaction
P.S.
Maybe this is your goal:


07.10.2015

On 7 October 2015 at 13:36, <[email protected]> wrote:

>Our team recently kill a big growing program within 24 hours only.
>Remember we are not DDoS attacker, we just kill you website in forums and monitors and investors will also support if we start working against you.

>Send me $500 to my bitcoin for avoid this otherwise i will inform to my team and we will start work within next 6 to 12 hours.

>Tradinginc.net admin refuse to pay us so his website is dead now.
>Check proof of our work
>http:// www. moneymakergroup .com/Tradinginc-Tradingincn-t502841.html

>In MMGP they removed the website in scam while he not just launched and buy MNO sticky and we kill it.

>Send $500 here FAST 1MZqnQLGxoxLoG47Dnv3xAmB8rcBf2ayKq

10.10.2015

On 10 October 2015 at 07:24, <[email protected]> wrote:


>Look here dumb asses.Everyone trusts me in the forum

>https:// bitcointalk .org/index.php?topic=1204396.msg12643181

>I'm bringing your program down.I've all evidence that are against you.

>MNO will be the next place I'm reporting you guys to.Have fun!


Here is an example of messages from different cheaters and scammers we receive every day...
Everyone of them tries to steal our money every single day in 100s of different ways.

You already received all your money + profit 6,000 USD.
Relax.



Can both parties show timestamped proof?
hero member
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ALso they just switch ownership so i guess we will see what happens .
hero member
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Pokeram has always worked fine for me . and i have a lot in it . I withdraw btc everyday .
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