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Quote from: Masplanc on October 31, 2021, 11:24:03 PM

Poker is very interesting game with different strategies in playing, it is not just game one play with luck, it is a game that requires skills. I so much like the game and it been awhile I played since, having it in mind to go for training anytime soon.

Unlike most of the gambling activities present in casinos, poker is one of the few exceptions to the game of luck. Though poker may seem to be reliant on luck, it also involves a game of technique and skill in predicting the cards of your opponents (relying on probability) and bluffing. The art of bluffing is a very complicated technique that all factors must be considered before the player can accurately use it to his advantage. However, it may backfire depending on how often a player uses it.

Quote from: worldofcoins on October 27, 2021, 03:58:44 PM

I remember I took a master class of Poker by a guy named Daniel Negrano (can't remember if i pronounced it correctly) he has been the champion in tournaments for quite some time and he's still around playing on big tables.

When I used to play Poker I bluffed a lot, It didn't end well for me, I lost around 200$ years ago playing poker which doesn't now.

Then I reduced bluffing and started learning about the game watching Negrano's course, which I still haven't finished.

Daniel Negreanu- considered to be one of the best players in poker! Remember that the art of bluffing is a very complicated technique where a hard and absolute rule does not exist. It must be studied and used on a case-to-case basis as it depends on how your opponents react to other people's bluffs too.

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Quote from: Masplanc on October 31, 2021, 11:24:03 PM

Poker is very interesting game with different strategies in playing, it is not just game one play with luck, it is a game that requires skills. I so much like the game

Strategies that vary from the experience of the player. And it's not really just a game of luck but you need to think wisely before folding or checking.

Quote from: Masplanc on October 31, 2021, 11:24:03 PM

and it been awhile I played since, having it in mind to go for training anytime soon.

You can do that with poker apps which you don't need to deposit and you can play with play money. There are too many apps that you can test and practice poker. Just to be sure that you're playing with some practice before with real money tables.

Luck and skill are a combination in poker games, but poker players who have high skills will win games relatively more often than poker players who rely solely on luck, and experience will also support when we meet opponents who have previous similarities.

there are many free poker game applications that you can find and to improve your ability to play poker even though the sensation is different at least you can deepen the poker game, and not only that you can also practice patience and calm while playing and also bluff at the right time.

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Quote from: Masplanc on October 31, 2021, 11:24:03 PM

Poker is very interesting game with different strategies in playing, it is not just game one play with luck, it is a game that requires skills. I so much like the game

Strategies that vary from the experience of the player. And it's not really just a game of luck but you need to think wisely before folding or checking.

Quote from: Masplanc on October 31, 2021, 11:24:03 PM

and it been awhile I played since, having it in mind to go for training anytime soon.

You can do that with poker apps which you don't need to deposit and you can play with play money. There are too many apps that you can test and practice poker. Just to be sure that you're playing with some practice before with real money tables.

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Poker is very interesting game with different strategies in playing, it is not just game one play with luck, it is a game that requires skills. I so much like the game and it been awhile I played since, having it in mind to go for training anytime soon.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on October 20, 2021, 02:18:57 PM

Poker is not really a game of chance. This is a game in which the player with certain skills wins. Poker masquerades as gambling, but the best poker players are calm and cold-blooded people.

Poker is classified as a game of skill, however unlike other games of skill in which your luck plays no factor poker is one of the games in which your luck can play a very prominent role, but even then over the long term the best players should impose themselves over the bad players.

However this characteristic of poker is why it is so difficult to master, because even when you do everything right and you have a 99% chance of winning the hand, your opponent can get exactly the card they need and win.

I share his way of thinking, in fact I am a person who has been in some tournaments and I have had winning hands and suddenly another player came out who had the best hand and won, just when I thought I had already won everything.

No matter how calm you have, no matter how patiently and sometimes the best strategy, just when you think that everything will turn out well, you cannot trust it because you can lose a lot of money, then in part the strategy and knowing a lot if it helps, but the luck factor is too important, of course the situations are not limited to that, sometimes with hands that are not so good you win, but the problem for me in poker when you know enough is to trust.

This has happened to me as well and it is never a good thing to be on the receiving end of those losses, personally I prefer tournament play over cash games, because in cash games the size of the players stacks are always different and we know that if a player has more chips they can pressure you with their play and bluff more often so you need to change your strategy.

But when you are in a tournament everyone begins what the same amount of chips and this gives you more time to play accordingly to your default strategy and you only need to switch gears once some important disparities between the distribution of chips begin to appear.

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Quote from: Stedsm on October 29, 2021, 07:31:43 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on October 28, 2021, 06:35:56 PM

I do understand and you're right. There are instances that it's better to fold than to bluff, if you can bear with that round and you might lose not that much, it's better to fold.
But when you're in that hard situation and you're about to lose the last money you have and the cards isn't with you then you have to play that part of bluffing just as the last resort for survival.

That will be the final choice left, then as nothing could save me. I played yesterday and did the bluffing again (but not all-in), the results were not so good but they were not bad either. It was like, I got many good cards yesterday and wanted to test this bluffing part as we have all been discussing it very seriously, so I took the privilege in my hands and went on to scaring my opponents again. I ended up in profit TBH and I believe that bluffing can be useful in times when we are certain that our opponents will fold or they've got even worst cards than us (a wild guess). But yeah, I won't bluff each game because they'll know that I'm using it as a strategy, I'd instead wait for 2-3 games, whether I get good cards or not (if not, I fold during those 2-3 games) and then bluff, that's called a surprise bluff strategy.

Yes, there are times that it would be really useful to you. It's just needed to be applied very well and you'll get to have the different opponents since it's online, it's easier to apply that.
And when it's effective to you then you have to keep doing that until you finally notice that it's no longer useful and working to you. That's all that's needed to be done when you're bluffing. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on October 28, 2021, 09:19:08 AM

When I started playing poker, I was faced with the fact that it is psychologically difficult for me to bluff.

Yes, I played well with a good hand. But I played badly with a bad combination of cards. I was comfortable with a small bank.

It's just fear. Human emotions.

At the time, I was reading Frank Herbert's novel Dune. There, the main character Paul Atreides uses special psychological techniques for self-improvement. In particular, he used such a tool as the litany against fear.

I began to practice reading this litany before each game and the fear went away.

I learned to bluff big.

This is an interesting point you bring up here. There are simply a lot of people who aren't good at physically hiding their emotions which certainly hurts their in person "game". It took me a bit of getting used to the game before I felt like I was a pretty good bluffer. That's pretty cool that you were able to overcome your issues with bluffing and end up mastering it!

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Quote from: Stedsm on October 29, 2021, 07:31:43 AM

That will be the final choice left, then as nothing could save me. I played yesterday and did the bluffing again (but not all-in), the results were not so good but they were not bad either. It was like, I got many good cards yesterday and wanted to test this bluffing part as we have all been discussing it very seriously, so I took the privilege in my hands and went on to scaring my opponents again. I ended up in profit TBH and I believe that bluffing can be useful in times when we are certain that our opponents will fold or they've got even worst cards than us (a wild guess). But yeah, I won't bluff each game because they'll know that I'm using it as a strategy, I'd instead wait for 2-3 games, whether I get good cards or not (if not, I fold during those 2-3 games) and then bluff, that's called a surprise bluff strategy.

Understandable really, only those kinds of bluffs would ever work imo. People who know how to read others and know when they're bluffing or not would not make any bluff work, ever. OR the hand he has is just incredibly good that it's really unlikely for him to lose so he just went in without even giving a single damn if his opponents were actually bluffing or not. Hey, that's poker I tell ya. Bluffing really is just a one time strategy really imo, it just takes advantage of someones carelessness but after that, they'd be pretty wary of you.

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Quote from: passwordnow on October 28, 2021, 06:35:56 PM

I do understand and you're right. There are instances that it's better to fold than to bluff, if you can bear with that round and you might lose not that much, it's better to fold.
But when you're in that hard situation and you're about to lose the last money you have and the cards isn't with you then you have to play that part of bluffing just as the last resort for survival.

That will be the final choice left, then as nothing could save me. I played yesterday and did the bluffing again (but not all-in), the results were not so good but they were not bad either. It was like, I got many good cards yesterday and wanted to test this bluffing part as we have all been discussing it very seriously, so I took the privilege in my hands and went on to scaring my opponents again. I ended up in profit TBH and I believe that bluffing can be useful in times when we are certain that our opponents will fold or they've got even worst cards than us (a wild guess). But yeah, I won't bluff each game because they'll know that I'm using it as a strategy, I'd instead wait for 2-3 games, whether I get good cards or not (if not, I fold during those 2-3 games) and then bluff, that's called a surprise bluff strategy.

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Quote from: Stedsm on October 28, 2021, 07:56:21 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on October 27, 2021, 05:31:50 PM

Still, a strategy but you've got to be better than others if you think that you'll do this. That's why you have to intimidate the other opponents you've got sitting on other chairs.
It's always a guarantee win but when you're better than others then you have the edge but if not, then you just have to accept the fact that there are the others who's better than you in doing it.

Can accept it as a strategy, but the fact is, if you're bluffing all the time just because of your bad luck that you don't get good cards, will definitely help your opponents understand since the very first or maybe second time you bluff in front of them. Bluffing isn't something that really needs any sort of special skills so to think that others do it better, the fact here could be that the players catch us and sometimes, it's better to just fold rather than going ahead, thinking that if we double or increase our bet more than double, they may fold, and some even leave the table because of their steep financial behavior.

I do understand and you're right. There are instances that it's better to fold than to bluff, if you can bear with that round and you might lose not that much, it's better to fold.
But when you're in that hard situation and you're about to lose the last money you have and the cards isn't with you then you have to play that part of bluffing just as the last resort for survival.

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When I started playing poker, I was faced with the fact that it is psychologically difficult for me to bluff.

Yes, I played well with a good hand. But I played badly with a bad combination of cards. I was comfortable with a small bank.

It's just fear. Human emotions.

At the time, I was reading Frank Herbert's novel Dune. There, the main character Paul Atreides uses special psychological techniques for self-improvement. In particular, he used such a tool as the litany against fear.

I began to practice reading this litany before each game and the fear went away.

I learned to bluff big.

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Quote from: passwordnow on October 27, 2021, 05:31:50 PM

Still, a strategy but you've got to be better than others if you think that you'll do this. That's why you have to intimidate the other opponents you've got sitting on other chairs.
It's always a guarantee win but when you're better than others then you have the edge but if not, then you just have to accept the fact that there are the others who's better than you in doing it.

Can accept it as a strategy, but the fact is, if you're bluffing all the time just because of your bad luck that you don't get good cards, will definitely help your opponents understand since the very first or maybe second time you bluff in front of them. Bluffing isn't something that really needs any sort of special skills so to think that others do it better, the fact here could be that the players catch us and sometimes, it's better to just fold rather than going ahead, thinking that if we double or increase our bet more than double, they may fold, and some even leave the table because of their steep financial behavior.

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Quote from: Stedsm on October 26, 2021, 04:48:00 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on October 26, 2021, 04:31:59 PM

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Bluffing is good if you know how to intimidate the other players as you're too confident bluffing it. But in actual table, the face-to-face one, you might find it hard to do that if the opponents are better than you.

Right, bluffing sucks TBH.
I tried playing some tournaments and when there were bad or even worst combinations with me, I tried to scare my opponents by going either all-in or for very big amounts, but when they actually play ahead instead of folding, I lose. This isn't a strategy TBH but just a way to fool others and make money in poker.

@OP, till good cards appear in your hands, don't even try to go ahead and don't bluff if you don't know what are the consequences gonna be!

You just have to know your opponents to an extent or at least be good at figuring out quickly if your opponents are prone to falling for bluffs or if they have to learn to respect you first before they’re willing to second guess you/be bluffed in to making a move. In other words it works, just depends on the situation I guess.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on October 25, 2021, 04:32:00 PM

Quote from: Smartprofit on October 20, 2021, 02:18:57 PM

Poker is not really a game of chance. This is a game in which the player with certain skills wins. Poker masquerades as gambling, but the best poker players are calm and cold-blooded people.

Poker is classified as a game of skill, however unlike other games of skill in which your luck plays no factor poker is one of the games in which your luck can play a very prominent role, but even then over the long term the best players should impose themselves over the bad players.

However this characteristic of poker is why it is so difficult to master, because even when you do everything right and you have a 99% chance of winning the hand, your opponent can get exactly the card they need and win.

I share his way of thinking, in fact I am a person who has been in some tournaments and I have had winning hands and suddenly another player came out who had the best hand and won, just when I thought I had already won everything.

No matter how calm you have, no matter how patiently and sometimes the best strategy, just when you think that everything will turn out well, you cannot trust it because you can lose a lot of money, then in part the strategy and knowing a lot if it helps, but the luck factor is too important, of course the situations are not limited to that, sometimes with hands that are not so good you win, but the problem for me in poker when you know enough is to trust.

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Quote from: Stedsm on October 26, 2021, 04:48:00 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on October 26, 2021, 04:31:59 PM

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Bluffing is good if you know how to intimidate the other players as you're too confident bluffing it. But in actual table, the face-to-face one, you might find it hard to do that if the opponents are better than you.

Right, bluffing sucks TBH.
I tried playing some tournaments and when there were bad or even worst combinations with me, I tried to scare my opponents by going either all-in or for very big amounts, but when they actually play ahead instead of folding, I lose. This isn't a strategy TBH but just a way to fool others and make money in poker.

@OP, till good cards appear in your hands, don't even try to go ahead and don't bluff if you don't know what are the consequences gonna be!

Still, a strategy but you've got to be better than others if you think that you'll do this. That's why you have to intimidate the other opponents you've got sitting on other chairs.
It's always a guarantee win but when you're better than others then you have the edge but if not, then you just have to accept the fact that there are the others who's better than you in doing it.

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Quote from: Stedsm on October 26, 2021, 04:48:00 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on October 26, 2021, 04:31:59 PM

--snip--
Bluffing is good if you know how to intimidate the other players as you're too confident bluffing it. But in actual table, the face-to-face one, you might find it hard to do that if the opponents are better than you.

Right, bluffing sucks TBH.
I tried playing some tournaments and when there were bad or even worst combinations with me, I tried to scare my opponents by going either all-in or for very big amounts, but when they actually play ahead instead of folding, I lose. This isn't a strategy TBH but just a way to fool others and make money in poker.

@OP, till good cards appear in your hands, don't even try to go ahead and don't bluff if you don't know what are the consequences gonna be!

You need to have that big nerve if you will use this strategy. There are poker players who love to play along. They understand the gestures and if you got caught in between, surely you will lose your money. Bluffing is more on timing and luck if both came after you expect to collect a good amount of cash from your opponent's wallet.

It's a good way to learn those previous mistakes and try to find ways to avoid it, like you, there are also players who are not a fan of bluffing they are more on realistic side and aimed to have a good cards in hands before throwing huge amount or to the point of playing all in.

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I remember I took a master class of Poker by a guy named Daniel Negrano (can't remember if i pronounced it correctly) he has been the champion in tournaments for quite some time and he's still around playing on big tables.

When I used to play Poker I bluffed a lot, It didn't end well for me, I lost around 200$ years ago playing poker which doesn't now.

Then I reduced bluffing and started learning about the game watching Negrano's course, which I still haven't finished.

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Quote from: iv4n on October 26, 2021, 11:12:27 AM

Important thing:

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85.2 percent of the hands were decided without a show of cards.
Of the remaining 14.8 percent, almost half were won by a player who didn't hold the best hand but instead had induced the player with the best hand to fold before the showdown
There are 1,326 starting two-card combinations in a standard deck, and you can play any of them. But there's a skill in knowing 75 percent of the combinations are garbage. Only certain hands should be played from the various table positions.

I remember at one time in poker there was a very popular idea that "nobody has anything until the cards are open". And on the basis of this, it was proposed to play any hand (but aggressively), making a profit due to the fact that opponents discarded cards before showdown. And for a long time this strategy worked, if I understand correctly the short stack strategy is the next implementation of this idea.

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Quote from: passwordnow on October 26, 2021, 04:31:59 PM

--snip--
Bluffing is good if you know how to intimidate the other players as you're too confident bluffing it. But in actual table, the face-to-face one, you might find it hard to do that if the opponents are better than you.

Right, bluffing sucks TBH.
I tried playing some tournaments and when there were bad or even worst combinations with me, I tried to scare my opponents by going either all-in or for very big amounts, but when they actually play ahead instead of folding, I lose. This isn't a strategy TBH but just a way to fool others and make money in poker.

@OP, till good cards appear in your hands, don't even try to go ahead and don't bluff if you don't know what are the consequences gonna be!

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Quote from: Smartprofit on October 25, 2021, 08:21:19 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on October 24, 2021, 06:42:28 PM

That can be done with a face-to-face table but if it's just online, you'll barely know how the opponents play with their cards. I think if you're observant and focus on both things at the same time as you play. That's like learning your cards and understanding the possibilities of your opponent's cards. And at the same time, you're also observing their acts towards their cards per round, I think that's quite hard to do.

In poker, good combinations of cards are rare.

However, sometimes they fall out. Such chances should be used to the maximum. In these situations, it is necessary to dramatically increase the size of the bank. This can be done in a simple way. Without trying to resort to trickery.

It also happens that you are missing one card. If you get this card, then you have a strong combination. What to do in this case? In this case, you need to bluff!

This is a chance to increase the bank and wait for the card you need. Your winnings in this case will be the maximum.

Nope, they're not really rare. It happens from time to time, table after table. That's why if you're just going to look for the rare high combinations then you should just go and watch for highlights.
Bluffing is good if you know how to intimidate the other players as you're too confident bluffing it. But in actual table, the face-to-face one, you might find it hard to do that if the opponents are better than you.

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