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April 08, 2013, 12:37:20 AM
#25
Also left-right is relative to country. From European viewpoint USA seems to be right-far right on the scale.

More exact labels would be good, but in some ways they might be rather far from real politics and misunderstood.
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April 07, 2013, 06:55:35 PM
#23
It will be an interesting mess Cheesy
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April 07, 2013, 06:08:31 PM
#22
The days of 'left' or 'right' will be over in days/months/(probably a few years).

'left or right' has turned into a farce these last decades, corruption rife, with either side just being the same pawns of the banksters, they will be discarded and thrown out in time to come. In the UK these last few years we have seen an unprecendented about of by-elections (meaning that MP's have either stood down, been forced to retire, and a few actually locked up), this is due to their corruption and it being found and shown (in some cases they've been the 'fall-out' man/woman for the higher powers coughcameroncoughroyalfamilycough).

Considering this .. what is your view on the new 'political scale'? Will there be one? How will it be measured? Will it be measured? Or will new divisions and categories be created?

My thoughts is that new categories will be created, the left and right thrown out. I have thoughts on this, but I am curious as to others thoughts without putting my own down first (which may or may not influence others thoughts).

this dichotomy will begin to be cast more and more in its true light. Left and right is a cover for the real dichotomy here, individualism vs collectivism. People will begin to shed the titles of left and right and more accurately label what they have always been attempting to articulate as collectivism and individualism.
Except some collectivists want you to only have sex the "right way" and don't want you to have specific plants, and others don't want you to smoke, or own specific configurations of metal parts.
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April 07, 2013, 05:43:44 PM
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The days of 'left' or 'right' will be over in days/months/(probably a few years).

'left or right' has turned into a farce these last decades, corruption rife, with either side just being the same pawns of the banksters, they will be discarded and thrown out in time to come. In the UK these last few years we have seen an unprecendented about of by-elections (meaning that MP's have either stood down, been forced to retire, and a few actually locked up), this is due to their corruption and it being found and shown (in some cases they've been the 'fall-out' man/woman for the higher powers coughcameroncoughroyalfamilycough).

Considering this .. what is your view on the new 'political scale'? Will there be one? How will it be measured? Will it be measured? Or will new divisions and categories be created?

My thoughts is that new categories will be created, the left and right thrown out. I have thoughts on this, but I am curious as to others thoughts without putting my own down first (which may or may not influence others thoughts).

this dichotomy will begin to be cast more and more in its true light. Left and right is a cover for the real dichotomy here, individualism vs collectivism. People will begin to shed the titles of left and right and more accurately label what they have always been attempting to articulate as collectivism and individualism.
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April 07, 2013, 05:29:22 PM
#20
whats up with all the tea party here

Tea party?  Just another distraction.  I don't identify with them, mostly because they fall prey to the "left-right" methodology, and they're kinda nutty.
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April 07, 2013, 05:18:20 PM
#19
I'd prefer there not be another war :p

And anyway, it's only ever really been 1 war, and we're still fighting it.
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April 07, 2013, 04:47:32 PM
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what you think of those fellas from the Near East:

http://www.picturehost.eu/uploads/a03cd6150981e8658bab53f971218e8b_swast2.jpg  Huh

And I totally agree with this Wink It is extremely shocking what they're blatantly getting away with.. but ye, gotta take away their power

yeah! let's support Iran in the upcoming WW III  !
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April 07, 2013, 04:21:46 PM
#17
whats up with all the tea party here
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April 07, 2013, 04:14:47 PM
#16
Ok. I made 15 records to my KGB notebook. See you soon gentlemen.
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April 07, 2013, 04:12:19 PM
#15
I really dont like this left-right "duopoly", but on this chart I'd have to say Libertarian. As far as a Libertarian goes, I've always flirted along the line between Minarchy and Anarchy, so I wouldn't know how I feel about that yet.
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April 07, 2013, 04:09:03 PM
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My opinion:

Liberals: crazy
Statists: crazy
Right-wing: crazy
Centrist: Understandable
Libertarian: Me
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April 07, 2013, 04:03:09 PM
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what you think of those fellas from the Near East:

 Huh

And I totally agree with this Wink It is extremely shocking what they're blatantly getting away with.. but ye, gotta take away their power
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April 07, 2013, 04:01:30 PM
#12
This is what I mean, the whole left-right thing is just so muddled now, and really when you look at it from the outside.. it's all the bloody same.

This stuff didn't exist before monarchy, and other things before that, left-right is creation of government and the modern fiat-controlled world to impress upon people that they have a choice. Maybe, probably it had the best intentions when it was created, but unfortunately not anymore. And just like how gold was replaced by fiat, and fiat will be replaced by bitcoin, what would replace the current form of corrupt government and this mentality of left-right?
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April 07, 2013, 03:55:23 PM
#11
Me the name I call myself...generally referred to as libertarian. Though to be honest it's hard to distinguish the normal libertarians from the nutty ones. For example, the 9/11 conspiracy theorists, the ones who believe the NWO/Illuminati are out to get them, etc...they just piss me off.

Yeah I agree, the official conspiracy theory seems pretty lame. Wink
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April 07, 2013, 03:46:21 PM
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Me the name I call myself...generally referred to as libertarian. Though to be honest it's hard to distinguish the normal libertarians from the nutty ones. For example, the 9/11 conspiracy theorists, the ones who believe the NWO/Illuminati are out to get them, etc...they just piss me off.

Of course I believe in some nutty things as well. Such as, I've yet to see any beneficial purpose of a tariff other than for the purpose of granting a monopoly to a labor union in a particular industry, which has the result of making goods cost more in both that market and adjacent ones, costing more jobs than it actually saves.

I also believe in nutty things such as based on my own experience with firearms, I think pistols are more dangerous than assault rifles in most situations other than open combat in a warzone (carbines, such as an M4, being more effective in urban warfare.) Also I believe that full auto or even burst fire is only useful for suppressive fire, and is otherwise just a waste of ammunition, which is why the Army removed it from all standard issue small arms. So that said, I don't understand why we ban either of them.

And the final nutty thing I believe is that in general, political labels suck. They encourage voters to treat their decision much in the same way that say Cowboys fans view Packers fans, or something similar. They don't really care about the man they are voting for, rather they just want to see their letter win.
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April 07, 2013, 03:06:20 PM
#9
Libertarian.
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April 07, 2013, 02:59:59 PM
#8
Generally libertarian, although I don't agree with their entire platform. I do think we need to fund education and have somewhat of a social safety net (just take better measures to make sure it is not abused.)

I disagree.  The problem with funding education and SS is that it requires tax.  If state-offered education was voluntary, and funded voluntarily, why would we need state-education?  In this case, it would make more sense for all schools to simply be private.  On SS, same issue; it's not voluntary.  If both those things were privately run and completely up to the individual to participate in, I would be perfectly a-okay with them.
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April 07, 2013, 02:54:55 PM
#7
Generally libertarian, although I don't agree with their entire platform. I do think we need to fund education and have somewhat of a social safety net (just take better measures to make sure it is not abused.)
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April 07, 2013, 02:37:22 PM
#6
I never really had one, until I found this site.  I believe the correct term is libertarian.  But hopefully, in the future, people won't consider a political role to have an effect on an entire populace.  Much like religion is nothing like a person's name, a political standing should be nothing like a person's gender.  They're abstractions; rules you have to play with in a statist society who values such things as division of the masses.  Maybe one day we'll all just be people; not libertarian, or American, or rich or poor, but people.
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