Topic: Politics changes human mindset - page 2. (Read 384 times)

What is politics from your understanding, politics is what is the amount of lies you have to present to deserve people to believe in you and build trust for you. This politics of things change the instinct of people because when you join the ruling group you will act like them to get what you want. Politics changes the character of people when they are privilege to enter power

Politics is not an evil thing, the point is that people who end up gaining power end up doing more evil than good. Although power does change a man's attitude from its initial intentions.

Politics is not bad, but the change it makes on people that's the problems.

And the power that they have felt will mostly don't want to be gone to them, so they create policies and laws that are going to be in favor of them to retain power and wealth.

That's the reality of politics.

And it's hard to change and break the cycle when the same people and family are sitting in the authority.

There are no permanent friends or enemies in Politics, , only interest is permanent,  this is very famous quote and proved true time and time again . It is true that politics is a mess specially in 3rd world countries where accountability of politicians is almost  impossible because  the whole governing system is corrupted by politicians for their own vested interests. Politics in 3rd world is an investment which pays back huge dividends in the form of kick backs when politicians win elections.

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Everyone's view about politics is that it's an evil
inclined venture and that whoever gets involved is already corrupt.

Anyways that's ain't actually true. Like the saying goes, "evil thrives in society because good men sit down and do nothing". Like contemplate on this statement you just read "good men sit down and do noth"!

Many persons with the intention to make the society a better place, most likely those Plato may in his time referred to as philosopher rulers chose to sit down and do nothing.

Many good persons today don't get involved in politics, wether actively or passive, so many evil minded persons who have no knowledge of the art of governance or no good intent or empathy for society have taken the leverage and occupied all positions in government and as such has given politics a bad light world wide.

In my opinion, politics is not associated with evil, it's just evil men that have found themselves within the corridors of power and as such had brought a bad light to the word politics.

There are still a very few of those politicians that really have the intention to help and you can see that they're not corrupt based on their living. But as much as you can, you stay away from politics.

It's totally a mess game for those who have been there and knows how to touch and play the ball.

You'll never know who's your enemy and friend. Today, you may be friends but tomorrow, they are your rivals.

You slowly become the type of people you surround yourself with. So naturally anyone joining politics will be influenced by the dirtbags in politics surrounding them and will turn into one themselves. Therefore, one has to choose the type of politicians one surrounds themselves with. If one chooses the right company of politicians, then would be nice too.

The OP is saying it from the worldly point of view not from the Political Scienrist point of view. And I believe the OP is not a political scientist that is why he did not back up his argument with some of the philosophical thoughts. Politics is not a bad Omen in the society. Politics is not an evil deed that transform good character to bad. That sounds PERSONIFICATION. Politics is not human being that changes characters but the people did or do that not Politics, that is, the leaders are evil, they changed the goods of Politics to bad ambition. Please I will want you to edit this thread by giving some of the Political thoughts to back of your argument. If not your argument by condemning Politics is vague. Null and void. According to Thomas Hobbs, From inception, man is wicked, brutal, nasty and life was very short. And it was Politics brought man back to be a good man. Because as they entered into the social contract, the wickedness of man was regulated by Politics. So to what extent Politics is evil? Again. According to Rousseau, Man was very good, innocent, peaceful, loving in the society but the association he made changes his character but Politics. In the normal sense Politics to regulate the bad behaviour of man to a good one. Politics is not evil but the mindset of the leaders are evil. Therefore when a good leader enter the Political scene good things will turn up. Go and read John Lock, Aristotle even said, democracy is the worst government in the world. Because it was through democracy his master, Socrate was killed.

Concerning the Russian's invasion on Ukrain, if you are a political scientist you would understand why Russia attacked Ukrain. In all human life there are two things involve. Politics and economy. Economy control Politics, go and find out which of these two made Russia to invade Ukrain. Politics is to make peace but economy cause problem. Why USA is the world power, it because of her economic strength not Political Power, remember DOLLAR is used everywhere in the world. Even Bitcoin exchange rate with dollar has the highest value. Is that Politics too?  Politics depends on economic power. All Political Scientist are Politicians but not all Politicians are Political Scientists. The war between Russia and Ukraine must be settled by the so called evil Politics.

Finally. If money is removed from Politics will people go there again? Automatically NO.

Politics is a place where you can find difficult set of people,  the reason why it is like this is because of how the system is. The system is not for gentle and calm people, for someone to get a political position the person must be tough to defeat opposition to succeed,  that's is how Politics is.

Politics is dirty game and is filled with corruption and manipulation when you joined politics if you are good person before you will change from good to bad before you can make you interest real, is because of people in government is making politics look like dirt game because none of them is being selected in position rightfully without a corrupted way

I think that politics does not change the mentality of man, but it manipulates the mind of man. Look, for example, at the United States and European countries that provide prosperity to their people, but at the same time they manipulate their minds through the media and prevent them from knowing the facts as they are. They portray to them the facts that they want them to know only and they do not allow They have to know the whole truth far from the hidden tricks and conspiracies of politics.

The more powerful a government comes, the more attractive politics will become to people who desire power. Weaken government and they'll be forced to train their ambitions elsewhere.

 Yes, some politicians had a good deeds for their community but most of them had a bad deeds and they never think that they already step the dignity of the other people. Like on this time of elections some politicians they buy their votes on the people specially that who are really needs or a people got in a debt situation, so that's why they we're no choice is except to accept. Also Politician poison the mind of people when the give a reward after they finish their task. That is how some politicians play their rules.

Politics have been the ecosystem that transforms good people into bad was the reason why I never liked politics ever since I understand this fact right from my childhood because the foundation of their rules and regulations was built on lies, decent, conny, etc or else the honest and the good person will serve as prey for the bad people.
This is the reason why people like me consider politics to be a scam and thats the reason why 95% of people that support cryptocurrency supported it because it showcases how democracy ought to be.

Politics is an art or science of acquisition of power with the intention of controlling the resources of a particular locality. It is the quest to grab political power with the aim of ruling or leading a state or country. Currently, the best form of government is representative democracy. It is a government that is enthroned by the people and can be dethroned by the people. Politics was suppose to be a transparent and peaceful process but currently it has been marred by electoral malpractice, deception, intimidation and even violence.

Most countries have voted for people that were perceived as good and qualified. But they get disappointed when the person grabs power because the person have turned to a tyrant and become corrupt. This has made people call politics a dirty game. There is a general belief that there is no good politician. But the worst set of politicians can be found in Africa. African politicians are fantastically corrupt and totally heartless. They derive joy is looting the county's treasury and seeing people suffer. Some of the reason why the mindset of people change immediately they become politicians are:

a) Weak political institutions: Most African political systems can be easily manipulated. The executive can easily manipulate the judiciary and legislature. This has made many politicians despotic. So when good men are given too much power they become power drunk this is because absolute power corrupts absolutely.

b) Public mentality: It is generally believed that politics enriches. Hence, everyone believe that when you get any Political position you are meant to acquire wealth by any means. You would be insulted by your family members and community if you do not enrich yourself, family, and friends. The his has forced men of integrity to become corrupt.
  

It's certainly why democracy is important. I'd disagree that it means governments should be limited. In general, if we are talking about capitalist democracies, then the government needs to set the limits on capitalism to prevent it becoming exploitative. A limited government would mean more monopolies, cartels, anti-competitive practices, etc. I think the government needs to be of sufficient size to manage the process capably. The key point is that the government should not become corrupt, and needs to be accountable if it swings too far (either to the right or to the left) - through the democratic process.

Politics is filled with corrupted people so people eho enters with the goal of bringing some changes into the system become powerless and get diluted at some point. Also politicians keep the people busy so they don't have time to think about what these politicians are doing, democracy is just a game one who are influencial,rich, corrupted still looting the money from people.

This is why limited government and democracy is important. If you believe humans are inherently corrupt, limit their scope and curtail their political influence. Democracy doesn't actually exist in Russia so limited governance doesn't apply.

Politics has always been an evil deed which transform the good to bad,The good man who determines to do what right ,his Good intentions later changes to bad intentions, it not really the fault of this prospective politicians when new to the game ,when they get to the office it a different ball game entirely,politics in different nations are almost the same with selfish interest ,only few stand out but yet still get a little bit corrupt..it is said that if you want to attain greater heights then join them ,if not you will remain stagnant, if not careful even left out ,politics has it own effect on society be it positively or negatively ..an example of the positive effect on the society is good governance and welfare of its citizens ,it considers the interest of its citizens while the negative example of politics Russia leader who do not consider the interest of its citizens mainly for self interest to start a war that will at the end affects its citizens..