Topic: [POLL] Do you trust BF Labs Inc. (Butterfly Labs) NOW? (Read 2530 times)

45 people just lost 4 months of anticipated mining revenue in 3 days.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/monarch-discussion/4415-19-aug-2013-monarch-discussion.html




Needless to say, the shipping of Monarchs will still be on hold come February, 2014.

The poll should have been.....

Will Josh live to see another birthday?
 
Results may have been the same.

I'm surprised so many suckers like being screwed so badly.
Maybe everyone who bought Josh's junk promises should throw him a party, too, maybe buy him a trip to the Bahamas or something....
I'm surprised more people do not want to suck his junk, as well. 

Bump, to garner more votes.

That question is a stupid one, in that it's ridiculously vague and subjective.

The question is, who can you trust at all? BFL's slow as hell, and it sucks. Then again, so is Avalon. Who else are you going to trust? KNC? Buy ASICminer gear that is priced to NEVER make ROI? 

It kinda sucks that nobody seems to be able to both develop a decent ASIC, AND develop relationships of trust with their customers, but until there are more/better options out there, people don't have a whole lot of choices if they want to be in the Bitcoin mining game.

BFL and Avalon are shitty in terms of broken promises of delivery dates, so if the question is whether you trust them to deliver ON TIME, the only rational answer is HELL no.

However, if the question is whether or not you trust that they'll deliver 'some day' (2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+2 weeks+...)

Well, they've demonstrated that they have the ability to deliver quality products on a timeline somewhere beyond 'fuck you' but still well this side of 'never'... Will it still make ROI? That's the million dollar question everybody wishes they knew the answer to. Absent a crystal ball, I'd say, 'maybe'. We don't know what will happen with bitcoin value over the next year, so it's impossible to say whether you're better off putting that money directly into bitcoin (or some other investment), or holding your nose and placing yet another pre-order, 'shipping in 2-60 weeks'.

As badly as certain people want their fantasy of "Sonny is a criminal who is running a scam to run away with millions of dollars in pre-orders" to come true, BFL continues to deliver on products (but not on deadlines).

Personally, I think they're absolute idiots for announcing another product that hasn't even been prototyped yet. Figured they MIGHT have learned that lesson from the last go-round. But they're clearly eternal optimists of their own abilities. I'm thinking the final product will ship your hashing power in 2-3 cards, and it'll be 3-6 months late, but that's sheer speculation...

I find that the lower you set your expectations going in, the less you set yourself up for disappointment in the future.

BFL lied to me and broke our contract. I'll never even consider doing business with them again.

I'd say Inaba needs to plead with his shoutbox to get some votes in here. Then again, not everyone over there is happy either.

Short answer:  No.
Longer Answer:  Fuck no.

Fools keep giving them money

A small company with a working 28nm product in 2013 / early 2014? Never!

I really like that they introduce a new product when they have not even fulfilled all of the orders for their old product and are apparently experiencing all kinds of technical challenges with it.
How the hell are they not out of business yet.

Mostly shills and 1 person that is new?

O.o The hell is wrong with you people?

Here is fair.

They have taken over a 1 year to deliver their products.
They lied about having it ready.
They are refusing refunds.

... and you want "Maybe".

Just don't vote problem solved.

Without revealing the results to those who have yet to vote, all I have to say is "Wow, wow, wow!" (with apologies to the late Steve Jobs)

and what do you think I did? lol.
in any case thanks for idea.
i know, you are boycotting all. me too maybe now? if yes - then do it fair

Don't vote if you are UNSURE or NEUTRAL problem solved.

because they have announcED and not introducED it yet.
and there are people other than pro or contra BFL. there are a lot of neutral people who are watching all these hysterical pro/contra. they're just quiet.
MAYBE would be good for those.

you can choose other word if strictly against MAYBE-word.
"UNSURE" maybe?
"NEUTRAL" maybe?
etcetera maybe?

EDIT:

btw, absolutely wrong statement regarding trust.
often (mostly) we neither trust, nor distrust people. ie unknow subjects.

Most BFL customer that have received and made ROI are over the moon and will be purchasing the new blade.

Those stuck in line with little chance of ROI are split.

I will not upgrade, however the thought has entered my head,

Will production tapper off now so I won't actually receive my goods before the new blade starts to ship? This is the Trap !

What ever ! No more $$$'s are going in BFL's direction from me,
Product = very good
Trust = 0
Ponzi = probably
unlawful refund policy = defiantly
Josh's attitude to customers = priceless