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Topic: [POLL] Do you unconditionally trust your government? (Read 1524 times)

legendary
Activity: 3906
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I'd say, nobody with access to this website would ever say yes.  Considering any nation with a walled garden for an information distribution system, you'd probably see a lot more yes votes.

But, how far can a person go not even trusting himself as Daniel91 says? If we are going to live in this life, we need to trust someone sometime. Who better to trust than our friends and neighbors... our fellow jury members. Inform everyone about jury nullification so that the laws get changed by jury court action. Then get on a jury, and change things.

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legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
I'd say, nobody with access to this website would ever say yes.  Considering any nation with a walled garden for an information distribution system, you'd probably see a lot more yes votes.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
I don't trust anyone, even my wife or myself Smiley
It's obvious that in today's world we don't have real freedom or democracy, so even politicians are not free to do what they want.
In their political campaigns they need financial supports but when they received donation for the campaign, they are required to give something back to the donor.
Also, they have to follow decisions of their political party, even if they don't like it.
Small countries have to follow big countries because of their financial and political dependence.
So, everything is connected and on the end nobody is free to do what he wants.
So, yes, we can't trust government because they are not free and can't do what will be the best for their country, their people but they have to do what stronger and more important countries and financial organizations order them to do.
It's sad reality, unfortunately.


Even though you don't trust, you still do. For example. If you are walking down the sidewalk in a busy part of town, you might be uncomfortable with all those people around you, but if you didn't trust them at least slightly, you'd go nuts.

The point? Get the word about jury nullification out to people. Juries can change the laws in America, Canada, Britain, Australia, India, and a few other countries that have them in common law. But the jury can't do what it doesn't know that it can do.

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legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1824
I don't trust anyone, even my wife or myself Smiley
It's obvious that in today's world we don't have real freedom or democracy, so even politicians are not free to do what they want.
In their political campaigns they need financial supports but when they received donation for the campaign, they are required to give something back to the donor.
Also, they have to follow decisions of their political party, even if they don't like it.
Small countries have to follow big countries because of their financial and political dependence.
So, everything is connected and on the end nobody is free to do what he wants.
So, yes, we can't trust government because they are not free and can't do what will be the best for their country, their people but they have to do what stronger and more important countries and financial organizations order them to do.
It's sad reality, unfortunately.
hero member
Activity: 926
Merit: 1001
weaving spiders come not here
Interesting. I think our leaders and legislators should take a close look at this thread. Keep the votes coming folks and thanks for participating.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
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The results are far better than i imagined. Bitcointalk.org users ain't sheep at all it seems!

Governments are become too complicated beings. You can't expect them to be fully innocent even if you voted for them.

I almost voted Yes.

Because NSA.

LOL

Too late, they already know you, and for quite a while now.

 Grin
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Not at all. They are all corrupt.
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
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The results are far better than i imagined. Bitcointalk.org users ain't sheep at all it seems!

Governments are become too complicated beings. You can't expect them to be fully innocent even if you voted for them.

I almost voted Yes.

Because NSA.
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 251
God knows what the Government is doing behind our backs. I don't understand why people would trust the Government!

people trust their government unconditionally just because of sharing same evil purposes to surppress the society. they serve at same purposes .. governments and their supporters just want to suck people's blood.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
I'm unconditionally distrust my government. Even when they are rarely telling the truth they doing that only for diverting attention from lies about more important questions.
legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
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The results are far better than i imagined. Bitcointalk.org users ain't sheep at all it seems!

Governments are become too complicated beings. You can't expect them to be fully innocent even if you voted for them.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1047
Your country may be your worst enemy
"Your government"?

The only person I know who can speak about "my government" is the Queen of England. There's no government anywhere which I shall call my own, but I government which have subjects.

It's not that I don't trust any government, the way I see it I don't want to have a government. I'm perfectly happy to live without one, and without financing one by paying income tax.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
yes for now because i am still a liability. Sad

They appreciate your votes for keeping them in power. They are willing to bribe you with other people's money to get it.

Ya Good point. The government do this to people and the people cant really do anything.

But the people in the common law lands (U.S., Canada, Britain, Australia, India) CAN do something. They have a thing called jury nullification in these lands. Jury nullification means that a 12-person jury can nullify any law regarding the case at hand. Here is an example.

Let's say you were traveling 100 MPH on an Interstate Highway that was posted at 75. You get a ticket and some time in jail before trial. The jury has the right to say that you are innocent, and to award you, say, $100,000 for time spent in jail. But they can't do it if they don't know about jury nullification and their duties and rights as a jury.

Be careful. Because the jury can put you back in jail with the $100,000 fine as well, if they think you were doing something dangerous, or for any reason.

If you set your trial up correctly, the so-called judge (who is really a magistrate) doesn't have anything to say about the judging, can't instruct the jury about how they are to judge at all. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10 (regarding setting your trial up correctly).

This is the same with any laws and statutes in these common law countries. If enough juries convene for the same question, the laws may have to be changed. That is, if there were, say, several hundred jury trials where the jury judged that it was lawful to go 100 in a 75 on an Interstate Highway, government might have to make it a law that everybody can do this.

The jury can change the law. But they can't do it if they don't know that they can do it. Spread the word about JURY NULLIFICATION.

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sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
I don't trust. But I think there r some short minded people who unconditionally trust to the government. And when the time come to governments change each other, everytime in such moments it appear some secrets and lies from previous government haha u just can't go nowhere from it.
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
yes for now because i am still a liability. Sad

They appreciate your votes for keeping them in power. They are willing to bribe you with other people's money to get it.

Ya Good point. The government do this to people and the people cant really do anything.
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
yes for now because i am still a liability. Sad

They appreciate your votes for keeping them in power. They are willing to bribe you with other people's money to get it.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
Well i observe many accusations against our pres and legislators and there are still many poor and unreachable provinces. so unconditionally yes.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1001
Unfortunately no, the government in my country seems doesnt care about the country development, there are times that i fully believe in my government, but all end up they are corruptor and after they do corruption they still be able to smile that they are innocent
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
How could you trust a government that continues to promise bull crap year in and year out? They'd say this and that, while they rob you blind of your taxes. You commit a minor offense, they're coming for you. They create a major offense, they get away with it. Unconditional trust and government cannot ever be used in the same sentence.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
yes for now because i am still a liability. Sad

No, you are not a liability. You are an asset to government. The little bit of liability that you are is nothing when compared with the great asset you are to them. It works like this.

-    You were born.
-    Your birth certificate was created as an artificial person in place of you, because you were too young to handle your life.
-    When your mom or dad (your owners, because they created you) signed the BC, they handed you over to government with themselves as caretakers of property, YOU (The BC is a UCC-1 form, a transfer of property form. Note that UCC numbers have changed now and again, so this might no longer be accurate.).
-    All your life government has been handling you in trust, using your BC as the trust doc.
-    At age 18, you could have taken over the trust, but you never showed up to do so, because nobody ever told you or your parents what had happened.
-    Your BC trust is worth $billions that government is holding for you, when you "return" to take up your BC trust (All of this has to do with English Common Law regarding the purpose for trusts. English Common Law regarding these trusts is probably why the BAR Association is an acronym for British Accredited Regency - see https://spktruth2power.wordpress.com/tag/british-accreditation-regency/ and http://educate-yourself.org/cn/treasonousintnlbarassociation26feb05.shtml.).
-    If you die without naming a beneficiary (because you know nothing about it), government simply keeps the money being held in trust for you, because there is nothing else they can do.

Time to take up trusteeship, or ownership of the BC trust that is in your name. It owes you $billions. Any debt that you seem to owe is really owed by your BC trust to you as first lien holder... then to banks or any other entity you default payment on (You don't really default. Your BC trust does.).

Interested in seeing the details? Look here http://www.abodia.com/ucc/. Look while you can. This info may be bashed by government if it becomes too popular.

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