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Topic: [POLL] Geist Geld restart - is it a good idea ? - page 2. (Read 2671 times)

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Yeah that was a spamfest, left on all night, took longer than bitcoin for less data, processing the chain must be a major part of the speed. ~28mb of data took few hours as opposed to bitcoin downloading the gig and being ready in the same time.

So, with GUIMiner on Solo for this to the daemon, are shares actual blocks solved? or does the daemon automatically make shares like a pool would when it delegates work? I check balance and transactions and everything still 0. It sounds like difficulty is low enough though to have gotten something over a day.
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Personally I view them as being paid bounties for finding flaws in the code. It isn't as though any transactions got messed up and anyone else lost any gelds that had been mined. Providing of course there won't be any more 51% attacks for the moment, there shouldn't be any showstopping problems going forward. The 'creative timestamps' hole has been plugged and shouldn't happen again. I am not concerned about what has happened before in this blockchain. I am concerned about what happens later though.

Several million bitcoins were mined before most of us found it. It does not matter how they were mined, and if someone had executed similar attacks in the first 20,000 blocks of Bitcoin, would people be crying about it now? Most would not be aware there ever was a problem. Anyhow, my 2 satoshis Smiley
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They show up the diff as if they were new (they are "new" from the client's perspective) until you reach current block (at this moment 32400 on this very moment, diff 44-someth)

I too have found it mildly confusing some time ago.
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Well it could be that there was so much missing I closed it overnight and just started it again so there might be a few hours missing, but shouldn't the downloaded old blocks not show up as new ones in the mining software?
But I will let it sit a little lets see...
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I vouch for it, even when I mined a few with legit means, the current state is unbearable. The thing is: Either ArtForz is still messing with it or some other people have adapted his code for crushing the difficulty adjustment. There are several new blocks on the network every second right now and if this continues it will become useless.

Um, are you observing it right-now or are you just now downloading Express's block-storm ?

What block are you now at (getinfo)?
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I think the option "Let Geist Geld die" is missing  Grin

Awww, y u no love little experimental chain ?  Smiley
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I vouch for it, even when I mined a few with legit means, the current state is unbearable. The thing is: Either ArtForz is still messing with it or some other people have adapted his code for crushing the difficulty adjustment. There are several new blocks on the network every second right now and if this continues it will become useless.
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I think the option "Let Geist Geld die" is missing  Grin
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It has been repeatedly suggested that I should restart GG because some people have earned somewhere around several hundred thousands "in a manner that is against the rules of the network".

Specifically, I would use two quotes below (from a thread now locked, hence me not replying there) to elaborate on my opinion on the issue and hopefully foster a level-headed civilized discussion.

I guess you can exchange anything with value, but I would have less faith in these testcoins over any of the alternates, especially as you can see some of the "testing" has produced ....non valid results based on the rules of the coin.. see arts creative time stamping.

why would I want to buy gelds produced this way?

Well, I could restart the chain, especially since the timestamp issue is more or less resolved by now, but that seems to me a questionable proposition. First and foremost that would invalidate the coins that have not been produced by "exotic" means, which is kinda, well, mean to all those who joined in early on.

Second, there is no upper limit on the amount of GG in nature (well, theoretically there is, due to data type currently used, but it is upwards of one hundred billions) thus one can not claim that the people who have carried out said operations have "claimed an unfair share of finite resource" due to, well, said resource not being (in any meaningful way) finite



I think they first have to fix the bugs and restart the chain.
I'm sure this will happen soon.

As a matter of fact, the timestamp issues per se have been fixed

The case of Express run-in isn't technically a "code exploit" proper, since he used massive computational superiority to carry out the "51%" attack, and impose whatever rules he felt like for the duration of attack.

As long as 51% of any alt chain's hashing power remains within a given singular person's reach, said person can essentially do whatever s/he pleases.

P.S.:
I could restart GG with "licensed mining" on. It will be a key management nightmare, though, since people who want to mine will have to reach me via PM and IRC to get their "license"
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