[poll] - My Investment portfolio - page 2.

bitcodo

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Little of gold, silver and stocks; building land; euros Huh

On friday I bought farming land and wood. This will be for food (we spend a lot of money on eco/bio food) and for fire&building wood.
I may even get a (crazy) rabbit and goat.

I'm considering buying a flat and i really like Excalibur crossbows (not for rabbit and goat, but for wild animals in wood).

dnaleor

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35% physical silver
32.5% EUR
30% physical gold
2 % BTC
0.4% LTC
0.1% PPC/NMC/...

ArticMine

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Quote from: notme on June 02, 2013, 09:59:12 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on June 02, 2013, 09:41:39 PM

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I am currently renting so technically I am short real estate.

the bubble popped dude... wtf are you waiting for??? get a girl get a dog make some kids and Love life!!!! BUY BUY BUY!

its not as bad as some people would make you believe

Disclaimer: I recently purchased my first home, so I believe/hope it won't get too much worse.

The Federal Reserve is directly propping up the mortgage market. We're not out of the clear until financing for the market can stand on it's own.

The real risk with real estate particularly in Canada is a rise in interest rates that will push many home buyers right out of the market. It will also place many who gambled with floating mortgages in a very dangerous position particularly if they also are heavily leveraged. This will force prices down in the short term as the weak hands are forced out via foreclosures. What will force this is that the central banks will sooner of later have to back off from quantitative easing. "All cash. No subjects. For clear title" when the seller is facing foreclosure is the way to buy real estate and if one holds on to one's BTC this can easily happen in the next few years. The "cash" will be CAD, BTC or a combination of both.

Now if one goes into real estate for the long term say 50% or more equity and long term (over 5 years for financing the balance) then yes buying one's home now can make a lot of sense. It all depends on the personal circumstances.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on June 02, 2013, 08:23:04 PM

Quote from: FoBoT on June 02, 2013, 08:06:05 PM

you can either include guns/ammo/food with real estate or it could be seperate

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Real Estate(Tv,Car,guns,ammo,food)

I'm not sure I'd include TV in there... Those things depreciate way faster than even fiat.

notme

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Quote from: adamstgBit on June 02, 2013, 09:41:39 PM

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I am currently renting so technically I am short real estate.

the bubble popped dude... wtf are you waiting for??? get a girl get a dog make some kids and Love life!!!! BUY BUY BUY!

its not as bad as some people would make you believe

Disclaimer: I recently purchased my first home, so I believe/hope it won't get too much worse.

The Federal Reserve is directly propping up the mortgage market. We're not out of the clear until financing for the market can stand on it's own.

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Quote from: ArticMine on June 02, 2013, 09:16:48 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on June 02, 2013, 08:59:08 PM

Quote from: ArticMine on June 02, 2013, 08:47:29 PM

BTC, USD, CAD. That is it.

I do not like:
Stocks (overdue for a crash)
Bonds (really overdue for a crash)
Real Estate (Still has a way to go down, in particular in Canada - Vancouver)
Gold (Short term down plus I already have a good Austrian position in BTC anyway)
Silver (Also going down)

I would consider:

LTC
Short position in stocks a short ETF or possibly a short position in Apple or Monsanto. (I see these as a good choice for a bear looking for an ethical investment. Basically a double negative play).

Real Estate never really goes down..... it might be in a bit of a bubble but in Real Estate terms 20% overvalued is a bubble, in the long run you're sure to make 50% even if you move around alot; why?? because inflation....

I strongly recommend everyone buy some Real Estate. living in an apartment is fine... but a nice house is just better, your not pissing away rent money, and you pay taxes to a government of your choice, here in canada our government realizes that there is room for improvement and is always looking for the best ways to enhance quality of life for all citizens

MOVE TO CANADA! CANADIAN GOVERNMENT SAYS BITCOIN IS A OK!! Grin

When it comes to real estate owning one's own home is neutral, renting is being short and owning rental property over and above one's home or more than one unit if one is renting is being long. The trouble with real estate is that it is typically heavily leveraged. A house with say 10% down can actually be much riskier than even BTC because one can easily end up with negative equity. Now if one is talking about real estate with well over 50% equity then yes this can be a safe investment. A portfolio of 50% BTC and 50% Government of Canada T-Bills will out perform over time real estate and assets such as stocks, gold, bonds etc., with way less risk.

I am currently renting so technically I am short real estate.

Canada tries hard to be open minded and tolerant. We May be americanized like mad, but we are still a proud people, technically the queen makes or breaks the law here, but we all know its up to the people. GO CANADA, BUY ALL THE BITCOINS!

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I am currently renting so technically I am short real estate.

the bubble popped dude... wtf are you waiting for??? get a girl get a dog make some kids and Love life!!!! BUY BUY BUY!

its not as bad as some people would make you believe

ArticMine

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Quote from: adamstgBit on June 02, 2013, 08:59:08 PM

Quote from: ArticMine on June 02, 2013, 08:47:29 PM

BTC, USD, CAD. That is it.

I do not like:
Stocks (overdue for a crash)
Bonds (really overdue for a crash)
Real Estate (Still has a way to go down, in particular in Canada - Vancouver)
Gold (Short term down plus I already have a good Austrian position in BTC anyway)
Silver (Also going down)

I would consider:

LTC
Short position in stocks a short ETF or possibly a short position in Apple or Monsanto. (I see these as a good choice for a bear looking for an ethical investment. Basically a double negative play).

Real Estate never really goes down..... it might be in a bit of a bubble but in Real Estate terms 20% overvalued is a bubble, in the long run you're sure to make 50% even if you move around alot; why?? because inflation....

I strongly recommend everyone buy some Real Estate. living in an apartment is fine... but a nice house is just better, your not pissing away rent money, and you pay taxes to a government of your choice, here in canada our government realizes that there is room for improvement and is always looking for the best ways to enhance quality of life for all citizens

MOVE TO CANADA! CANADIAN GOVERNMENT SAYS BITCOIN IS A OK!! Grin

When it comes to real estate owning one's own home is neutral, renting is being short and owning rental property over and above one's home or more than one unit if one is renting is being long. The trouble with real estate is that it is typically heavily leveraged. A house with say 10% down can actually be much riskier than even BTC because one can easily end up with negative equity. Now if one is talking about real estate with well over 50% equity then yes this can be a safe investment. A portfolio of 50% BTC and 50% Government of Canada T-Bills will out perform over time real estate and assets such as stocks, gold, bonds etc., with way less risk.

I am currently renting so technically I am short real estate.

adamstgBit

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Quote from: ArticMine on June 02, 2013, 08:47:29 PM

BTC, USD, CAD. That is it.

I do not like:
Stocks (overdue for a crash)
Bonds (really overdue for a crash)
Real Estate (Still has a way to go down, in particular in Canada - Vancouver)
Gold (Short term down plus I already have a good Austrian position in BTC anyway)
Silver (Also going down)

I would consider:

LTC
Short position in stocks a short ETF or possibly a short position in Apple or Monsanto. (I see these as a good choice for a bear looking for an ethical investment. Basically a double negative play).

Real Estate never really goes down..... it might be in a bit of a bubble but in Real Estate terms 20% overvalued is a bubble, in the long run you're sure to make 50% even if you move around alot; why?? because inflation....

I strongly recommend everyone buy some Real Estate. living in an apartment is fine... but a nice house is just better, your not pissing away rent money, and you pay taxes to a government of your choice, here in canada our government realizes that there is room for improvement and is always looking for the best ways to enhance quality of life for all citizens

MOVE TO CANADA! CANADIAN GOVERNMENT SAYS BITCOIN IS A OK!! Grin

ArticMine

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BTC, USD, CAD. That is it.

I do not like:
Stocks (overdue for a crash)
Bonds (really overdue for a crash)
Real Estate (Still has a way to go down, in particular in Canada - Vancouver)
Gold (Short term down plus I already have a good Austrian position in BTC anyway)
Silver (Also going down)

I would consider:

LTC
Short position in stocks a short ETF or possibly a short position in Apple or Monsanto. (I see these as a good choice for a bear looking for an ethical investment. Basically a double negative play).

adamstgBit

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Quote from: ElectricMucus on June 02, 2013, 08:10:36 PM

I don't view my gold/silver coins as an investment, just something that should help when things get tough.

Other than that I don't invest, I speculate.

I own some random silver/gold pieces myself, to me everything i buy kind of is an investment.. because i'm poor Cheesy

adamstgBit

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Quote from: FoBoT on June 02, 2013, 08:06:05 PM

you can either include guns/ammo/food with real estate or it could be seperate

right

Real Estate(Tv,Car,guns,ammo,food)

ElectricMucus

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I don't view my gold/silver coins as an investment, just something that should help when things get tough.

Other than that I don't invest, I speculate.

FoBoT

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you can either include guns/ammo/food with real estate or it could be seperate

adamstgBit

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what other catgory on the face of the plant is even worth putting your money into these days anyway?

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i added Real estate, because i think Real estate is a necessary investment for EVERYONE to look to acquire at least 1 of.... everyone needs a nice home to live in
what other investment are good?
post your comments below!

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