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Topic: [POLL] Petition to have the FTC investigate BF Labs Inc. in Kansas [POLL] (Read 2158 times)

legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Seriously, I have an invite from Josh to visit BFL's facility of which I've kindly accepted. After my return, regardless of any findings, my dialogs will all be of the civil nature.

Are you going to ask any tough questions, or just have a fun time there?

Drop by bd's and have some good Mongolian for me. http://www.gomongo.com/locations/28057-bds-mongolian-grill-overland-park


Hopefully, tough enough but in a civil tone, of which I'm sure will be answered in kind, with any questions that are not able to be answered would have a logical reason for not being addressed.

Feel free to PM me questions you want asked, sans the FCC and Sonny K. ones, for we don't need to beat that dead horse any longer, albeit they will be part of our dialog, but not harped upon.

Fair warning! I already do expect to come away with a favorable review, sans the Kool Aid not being sweet enough. And I'm not getting paid for any endorsements, if that happens to be the case. Also, if down the road I once again become critical of BFL, it will be in a voice of utmost civility. Don't we think it's about time we start conducting ourselves like civil adults? Fuck, I've probably used the word cocksucker on this forum more times than I ever had in my entire RL.

Although it pisses me off that Josh extended the olive branch before I did, his action probably now carries more meaning/weight than if I were to have extended it first.

So your smear campaign must have worked or Josh wouldn't be buttering you up. They probably started losing newbie preorder money and concluded that you have cramped their scam style. I hope you at least get a little money out of it. It would be a shame if you were placated for nothing more than lunch at a local restaurant.

I will accept no moneys (with exception of expenses) nor gifts, but will partake of the raspberry Kool Aid, of which I hope is photographed--Sonny pouring and Josh standing behind me with a broomstick in hand, with me sitting at their cafeteria table. That would be an epic image.

Speaking of images, I hear Josh has his name on the door to his office. Could you take a better photo of it for me. The one I have is at an angle.

legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Seriously, I have an invite from Josh to visit BFL's facility of which I've kindly accepted. After my return, regardless of any findings, my dialogs will all be of the civil nature.

Are you going to ask any tough questions, or just have a fun time there?

Drop by bd's and have some good Mongolian for me. http://www.gomongo.com/locations/28057-bds-mongolian-grill-overland-park


Hopefully, tough enough but in a civil tone, of which I'm sure will be answered in kind, with any questions that are not able to be answered would have a logical reason for not being addressed.

Feel free to PM me questions you want asked, sans the FCC and Sonny K. ones, for we don't need to beat that dead horse any longer, albeit they will be part of our dialog, but not harped upon.

Fair warning! I already do expect to come away with a favorable review, sans the Kool Aid not being sweet enough. And I'm not getting paid for any endorsements, if that happens to be the case. Also, if down the road I once again become critical of BFL, it will be in a voice of utmost civility. Don't we think it's about time we start conducting ourselves like civil adults? Fuck, I've probably used the word cocksucker on this forum more times than I ever had in my entire RL.

Although it pisses me off that Josh extended the olive branch before I did, his action probably now carries more meaning/weight than if I were to have extended it first.

So your smear campaign must have worked or Josh wouldn't be buttering you up. They probably started losing newbie preorder money and concluded that you have cramped their scam style. I hope you at least get a little money out of it. It would be a shame if you were placated for nothing more than lunch at a local restaurant.

I will accept no moneys (with exception of expenses) nor gifts, but will partake of the raspberry Kool Aid, of which I hope is photographed--Sonny pouring and Josh standing behind me with a broomstick in hand, with me sitting at their cafeteria table. That would be an epic image.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
Although it pisses me off that Josh extended the olive branch before I did, his action probably now carries more meaning/weight than if I were to have extended it first.

 Gotta be honest, while I agree that you were perhaps getting a little bit too heated, FWIW I'm disappointed you took the bait and got manipulated into this.

 I can't help to feel you are being played like a violin.

 Either way, look forward to your report.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Seriously, I have an invite from Josh to visit BFL's facility of which I've kindly accepted. After my return, regardless of any findings, my dialogs will all be of the civil nature.

Are you going to ask any tough questions, or just have a fun time there?

Drop by bd's and have some good Mongolian for me. http://www.gomongo.com/locations/28057-bds-mongolian-grill-overland-park


Hopefully, tough enough but in a civil tone, of which I'm sure will be answered in kind, with any questions that are not able to be answered would have a logical reason for not being addressed.

Feel free to PM me questions you want asked, sans the FCC and Sonny K. ones, for we don't need to beat that dead horse any longer, albeit they will be part of our dialog, but not harped upon.

Fair warning! I already do expect to come away with a favorable review, sans the Kool Aid not being sweet enough. And I'm not getting paid for any endorsements, if that happens to be the case. Also, if down the road I once again become critical of BFL, it will be in a voice of utmost civility. Don't we think it's about time we start conducting ourselves like civil adults? Fuck, I've probably used the word cocksucker on this forum more times than I ever had in my entire RL.

Although it pisses me off that Josh extended the olive branch before I did, his action probably now carries more meaning/weight than if I were to have extended it first.

So your smear campaign must have worked or Josh wouldn't be buttering you up. They probably started losing newbie preorder money and concluded that you have cramped their scam style. I hope you at least get a little money out of it. It would be a shame if you were placated for nothing more than lunch at a local restaurant.
legendary
Activity: 1918
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Seriously, I have an invite from Josh to visit BFL's facility of which I've kindly accepted. After my return, regardless of any findings, my dialogs will all be of the civil nature.

Are you going to ask any tough questions, or just have a fun time there?

Drop by bd's and have some good Mongolian for me. http://www.gomongo.com/locations/28057-bds-mongolian-grill-overland-park


Hopefully, tough enough but in a civil tone, of which I'm sure will be answered in kind, with any questions that are not able to be answered would have a logical reason for not being addressed.

Feel free to PM me questions you want asked, sans the FCC and Sonny K. ones, for we don't need to beat that dead horse any longer, albeit they will be part of our dialog, but not harped upon.

Fair warning! I already do expect to come away with a favorable review, sans the Kool Aid not being sweet enough. And I'm not getting paid for any endorsements, if that happens to be the case. Also, if down the road I once again become critical of BFL, it will be in a voice of utmost civility. Don't we think it's about time we start conducting ourselves like civil adults? Fuck, I've probably used the word cocksucker on this forum more times than I ever had in my entire RL.

Although it pisses me off that Josh extended the olive branch before I did, his action probably now carries more meaning/weight than if I were to have extended it first.
legendary
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Seriously, I have an invite from Josh to visit BFL's facility of which I've kindly accepted. After my return, regardless of any findings, my dialogs will all be of the civil nature.

Are you going to ask any tough questions, or just have a fun time there?

Drop by bd's and have some good Mongolian for me. http://www.gomongo.com/locations/28057-bds-mongolian-grill-overland-park
legendary
Activity: 2674
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Terminated.
I have closed several BFL threads, but opt to keep this one open for the time being.

Let's try to keep the conversation as civil as possible. Rumor has it that I may, or may not, have drank some Kool Aid, but if I did, the flavor was raspberry.

Seriously, I have an invite from Josh to visit BFL's facility of which I've kindly accepted. After my return, regardless of any findings, my dialogs will all be of the civil nature.

Honestly, it was getting to the point that I began developing a hatred, and I don't like that feeling. I honestly even hate the word hate (no pun intended). This is not who I am, nor want to be as a person.

If something nefarious is transpiring at some company, bringing attention to as many facts as possible is one thing; beating the proverbial dead horse is another. Unfortunately, that is exactly what I, among other, were doing. I'm sure there's a way to civilly beat a dead horse opposed to name calling or which I resorted to.

Shame on me!

Well that should be an interesting visit. Make sure you look for ankle bracelets and don't drink anything offered without seeing the seal broken on the bottle. How long do you want us to wait before filing a missing persons report?
+1 haha
Hopefully you make it back alive.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
I have closed several BFL threads, but opt to keep this one open for the time being.

Let's try to keep the conversation as civil as possible. Rumor has it that I may, or may not, have drank some Kool Aid, but if I did, the flavor was raspberry.

Seriously, I have an invite from Josh to visit BFL's facility of which I've kindly accepted. After my return, regardless of any findings, my dialogs will all be of the civil nature.

Honestly, it was getting to the point that I began developing a hatred, and I don't like that feeling. I honestly even hate the word hate (no pun intended). This is not who I am, nor want to be as a person.

If something nefarious is transpiring at some company, bringing attention to as many facts as possible is one thing; beating the proverbial dead horse is another. Unfortunately, that is exactly what I, among other, were doing. I'm sure there's a way to civilly beat a dead horse opposed to name calling or which I resorted to.

Shame on me!

Well that should be an interesting visit. Make sure you look for ankle bracelets and don't drink anything offered without seeing the seal broken on the bottle. How long do you want us to wait before filing a missing persons report?
full member
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Chromia - Relational Blockchain
Seriously, I have an invite from Josh to visit BFL's facility of which I've kindly accepted. After my return, regardless of any findings, my dialogs will all be of the civil nature.

Great, dont forget to check the toilets!
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
I have closed several BFL threads, but opt to keep this one open for the time being.

Let's try to keep the conversation as civil as possible. Rumor has it that I may, or may not, have drank some Kool Aid, but if I did, the flavor was raspberry.

Seriously, I have an invite from Josh to visit BFL's facility of which I've kindly accepted. After my return, regardless of any findings, my dialogs will all be of the civil nature.

Honestly, it was getting to the point that I began developing a hatred, and I don't like that feeling. I honestly even hate the word hate (no pun intended). This is not who I am, nor want to be as a person.

If something nefarious is transpiring at some company, bringing attention to as many facts as possible is one thing; beating the proverbial dead horse is another. Unfortunately, that is exactly what I, among other, were doing. I'm sure there's a way to civilly beat a dead horse opposed to name calling or which I resorted to.

Shame on me!
legendary
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Terminated.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 3000
Terminated.
hero member
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The fact that a suspected criminal like Josh Zerlan considers us monumental assholes, is a point of pride.


Wich is worth close to nothing in a court of law

But more than ample in the court of public opinion.


Josh Zerlan = Shady.
legendary
Activity: 1428
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Okey Dokey Lokey
The fact that a suspected criminal like Josh Zerlan considers us monumental assholes, is a point of pride.


Wich is worth close to nothing in a court of law
legendary
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Christian Antkow
The fact that a suspected criminal like Josh Zerlan considers us monumental assholes, is a point of pride.

legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending

The order was a Jalapeno initially. I paid to upgrade it to a 60gh/s SC Single, and BFL confirmed that I would not lose my place in line.

The bit-pay guys know the number BFL's database started at, and it was with my order. I placed it within ten seconds of BFL opening the forms, and nobody on the forums claimed a previous preorder until BFL started lying about it. I'm not going to be easily convinced that over 50 people placed orders via paypal exclusively in those ten seconds.

BFL: What's your excuse for this one?

Calm the fck down,

The reason why there are orders b4 you was the last FPGA orders were allowed to convert to ASICs. They've automatically become the first ones in line.

For new orders, its true that you're the first.


Nemesis is correct. There are a number of orders that are before the first Bitpay order, dating back well before #1600.  Garr, you can officially piss off at this point and take your accusations and stick them straight up your ass.  I tried to be nice and I wanted to help you and you give me all sorts of shit and accusations.  This is why we no longer give a shit about this forum;  Everyone here is monumental assholes, no matter how accommodating one tries to be.  Garr, you'll get your order when it comes up in the queue, I'm done looking into your problems or trying to help you.
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Sadly i do not live in the usa, very lucky for them.


If my pre-order was a Mini Rig,  I would be catching the next plane to Josh's House and would not leave in till my order was in was my hands.

ill climb in his bedroom and wake him up !! 'Josh wake up where's my Mini Rig'!! Come on your going to get it now plus a extra one for taking the piss !!!

Really amazed that no crazy meth heads have not robbed that place ages ago with all them meth making machines they got!!!!
 '' I am sure that's how they would see it''

Plus so many people waiting for old orders and Butterfly Labs are designing new 600gh toys for preorder WTF!! such a fucking scam!! Surly you would want your business up to date before paying or spending time on new devices they live in lala land!!  


Rant over!




legendary
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Has anyone actually tried visiting their headquarters? I've seen the video where they take apart the Jalapeno miner so I'm half convinced but they look like one of the worst companies ever really with the amount of rage they cause, I'm actually feeling less like hating on Virgin Media now because of this despite how badly they do sometimes Cheesy.
legendary
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Okey Dokey Lokey
Vote with your feet, by filing a real complaint - it only takes a few minutes at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/ - The FTC will only take action if they receive a number of real complaints.

I did a while back.

I honestly don't see why it would take several filings before they act, when one letter should do it.

It's obvious even to most brain-dead person that nobody has or will receive what they paid for a year ago. Case in point, is the missing PSUs which, by the way, allows BFL to make more money on the shipping since the boxes will be lighter.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sonny Vleisides charges his employees for using the toilet paper.

Lets not forget that we already paied for the PSU's so that we would have one
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