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January 10, 2014, 04:05:35 AM
#32
we know it won't be a utopia. we also know that in the grand scheme of things, more hurt than help will be caused by massive state power. the system never stays where it's at, just keeps slowly creepin. and this is why there should be absolutely no gun control period, because their 10 round capacity limit would quickly work it's way down to 6 and the proposed stricter background checks would have a progressively increasing tax attached to them.
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January 09, 2014, 11:18:04 PM
#31
I believe in a republic whose job is only to protect my liberty and stay away from everything else like my guns, my privecy, my money (they can't print money or have a central bank) my speech, my association, my body (if I want to inject drugs it's my body my republic). So what does that make me a republican?
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January 07, 2014, 11:17:10 AM
#30
Social libertarian, of course. I support right to bear arms, right to use any illicit substance we want without threat of prison time, basically maximal individual freedom. Only governments and corporations need regulation, they need regulation because of their built in ability for the people running them to distance themselves from the responsibility of their actions.... and because we don't want all our national parks being plundered by any corporation that sees the potential for profit... some things just need regulation. Smiley
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January 05, 2014, 02:00:59 AM
#29
idea: keep undocumented immigrants, deport liberals.  problem solved!
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January 04, 2014, 08:25:56 PM
#28
What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

What's extremist about it?

they have a one-size-fits-all approach. from my experience, they think the world would be almost utopian if we removed government. it's as simple as that. then again, maybe i am conflating anarchism with libertarianism.

I've never met anyone that thinks Libertarianism is some kind of attempt to create Utopia. I'd think anyone who thought this Utopia could even happen would be a fool and incredibly naive.
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January 04, 2014, 08:22:54 PM
#27
What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

What's extremist about it?

they have a one-size-fits-all approach. from my experience, they think the world would be almost utopian if we removed government. it's as simple as that. then again, maybe i am conflating anarchism with libertarianism.

How about you discuss the content of libertarianism, rather than simply classifying it as "one size fits all" as if that's a disproof.

An anarchist argument is quite simple:
In every sphere of activity, giving some group the authority to take the money of another group and enforce their will on them will likely have bad consequences. I say "likely" because I'm open to the possibility that certain laws may do some good. However, I also recognize that the types of laws that a real government will provide aren't necessarily the good ones--in other words, there's no plausible way to construct a government such that it only does good things.

Is that "one size fits all"? Sure, in some respects. But I can equally argue that a statist position imposes "one size fits all" rules on its citizens. So let's argue content, rather than exchanging stupid platitudes.
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January 04, 2014, 08:14:40 PM
#26
Not part of any ideology, not conservative (WTF?)
Please add anarchist and scientologist

Scientologist?
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January 04, 2014, 08:13:42 PM
#25
Not part of any ideology, not conservative (WTF?)
Please add anarchist and scientologist
legendary
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January 04, 2014, 08:11:33 PM
#24
What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

You can be independent, have independent thought and NOT be a Libertarian...

Example?
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January 04, 2014, 08:07:42 PM
#23
What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

You can be independent, have independent thought and NOT be a Libertarian...
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January 04, 2014, 08:00:35 PM
#22
What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

What's extremist about it?

they have a one-size-fits-all approach. from my experience, they think the world would be almost utopian if we removed government. it's as simple as that. then again, maybe i am conflating anarchism with libertarianism.

i had a libertarian/anarchist tell me that the biggest tragedy in the dorner case was all the money that the LAPD had to spend to track him down... not the fact that innocent people were murdered.
legendary
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January 04, 2014, 07:48:11 PM
#21
What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

What's extremist about it?

Free thought in a dictatorship is always extreme Smiley.

Such odd times we live in where "stop waving that gun at me" is an extremist line Tongue
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January 04, 2014, 07:10:38 PM
#20
What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

What's extremist about it?

Free thought in a dictatorship is always extreme Smiley.
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January 04, 2014, 06:43:43 PM
#19
What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.

What's extremist about it?
sr. member
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January 04, 2014, 06:40:47 PM
#18
What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.

libertarians probably consider themselves independents, but they obviously follow an extremist/ideological script.
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January 04, 2014, 06:33:04 PM
#17
What about Independents that don't follow any of those three fucked up parties...lame.
legendary
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January 04, 2014, 05:28:59 PM
#16
The poll could have been a bit more refined. We all know that the vast majority of the Bitcoiners are libertarians. So dividing Libertarians further would have been a good idea. Some new options could have been added, such as Anarcho-Libertarians.  Grin

The refining quality wouldn't be in loosening the libertarian option, but tightening the authoritarian one.  Enough with these silly dichotomies.
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January 03, 2014, 02:24:27 PM
#15
Thanks all for the feedback so far. I wanted to make this a simple poll without delving too far into the nuances of each political philosophy; I apologize if anarchists couldn't find an agreeable option between the three provided choices.  Smiley Perhaps that was an oversight on my part.

I see that libertarian is out in the lead currently, which I expected, but conservatives and liberals are both well represented. Perhaps there is something in bitcoin for everyone -- conservatives can enjoy the prospect of holding money in bitcoin to partially avoid (for now at least) the increasing drive in politics to increase taxes on wealth. Libertarians are attracted to the lack of a central bank. Also, from my experience, it seems that many young people are liberal and it just so happens that many bitcoin users are young and tech savvy individuals. Perhaps they enjoy the (somewhat) anonymous nature of bitcoin and the potential for black market trade, such as Silk Road, etc? (given that most liberals in the US are pro marijuana legalization).
legendary
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January 03, 2014, 11:39:15 AM
#14
i'm definitely not conservative.. i like some liberal things as well as libertarian, but i can't really say that i would identify with one group over the other. both have drawbacks to me..
I have puzzled about this for a long time, being very, very fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

But like it or not, the poll is accurate as it stands.  The reason is that every couple of years, it gets around time to vote.  And people do it, putting aside their 'differences and uniqueness' and they place a vote in what is best described as a binary decision process.
legendary
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January 03, 2014, 11:26:00 AM
#13
Sexually Liberal Feminist here.
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