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Topic: [poll] Should doxing be banned? - page 2. (Read 2990 times)

legendary
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dogiecoin.com
September 20, 2015, 08:35:43 AM
#23
I'd ask anyone voting no to volunteer your doxes, because that's essentially what you're saying.
newbie
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Merit: 0
September 20, 2015, 08:10:01 AM
#22
Either would be fine, but the rules should be clear and consistent, and enforcement transparent (e.g. not involve forum software searching for substrings of theymos' address/phone#/BTC addy containing this info in the form of a public message).

~~Comrade Napoleon, Father of All Animals, Terror of Mankind, Protector of the Sheep-fold.


legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
September 20, 2015, 05:28:41 AM
#21
I voted for ' Yes: it should be banned.'
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
September 20, 2015, 05:27:49 AM
#20
Basically it should be banned but in some cases it can be done ,depending upon the context or situations.
[1] Practising of revealing ones personal identity by unknown people can let you in a offense.
[2] Can even lead to mass Falsehood , as the identity provided in dox don't need to be truth.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
September 20, 2015, 05:23:52 AM
#19
No. If the DOX (which it usually does) contains only information that is publicly available on search engines (your own fault), then it should not.

I've already proven that to be false, and the other thread has more than vehemently proven that admins will delete or shield their own doxes but not those of others, while maintaining the viewpoint that they do. pNote I say "admins" in the general context that we don't know who, or one or many, or some conspiracy or none at all. Don't go witch-hunting.]
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
September 20, 2015, 04:48:42 AM
#18
I particularly don't like anyone doxing anyone so I voted yes, but shouldn't this topic be discussed in meta?

Been told this multiple times now. I'll move to meta and mods can decide if it's off topic or not.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
You have eyes but can see Mt. Tai?!
September 20, 2015, 04:36:50 AM
#17
I particularly don't like anyone doxing anyone so I voted yes, but shouldn't this topic be discussed in meta?
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
September 20, 2015, 04:20:05 AM
#16
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
September 19, 2015, 10:00:14 AM
#15
From what I know, theymos ban users who post his dox. I read it somewhere on the forum, don't ask me.
a global mod denied it in this topic:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-is-non-consensual-release-of-personal-information-allowed-1183191

I quintuple-dog-dare you to post his dox, that are easily obtainable via Google, and see what happens.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1005
September 19, 2015, 09:51:25 AM
#14
From what I know, theymos ban users who post his dox. I read it somewhere on the forum, don't ask me.

a global mod denied it in this topic:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-is-non-consensual-release-of-personal-information-allowed-1183191
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 502
September 19, 2015, 09:49:10 AM
#13
I would vote Yes. But then again who cares what we say man!

If you see something on the forum which you think is wrong but is allowed, learn to look away..

ps: didn't vote.
full member
Activity: 225
Merit: 103
Wizard
September 19, 2015, 08:57:18 AM
#12
From what I know, theymos ban users who post his dox. I read it somewhere on the forum, don't ask me.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
September 19, 2015, 08:55:08 AM
#11
i voted yes.
a dox should be made by law enforcement and not by forum users.
legendary
Activity: 2884
Merit: 1117
September 19, 2015, 08:38:56 AM
#10
I answered No, because if someone did very bad stuff to community, like TradeFortress, it should be publicly recognized, if not scammers will not stop being so.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1006
beware of your keys.
September 19, 2015, 08:34:03 AM
#9
nope.
unless it contains explicit threats, else it must not be banned to prevent admin abuse (admin self-banning disaster).
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
September 19, 2015, 08:29:37 AM
#8
So how do you propose to resolve situations such as Josh Zerlan using private information in their customer database to dox me, and then blatantly lying about it being public information.

A vendor. Now the subject of an FTC lawsuit. Doxing an upset customer.

Theymos shrugs.

Disclosure: Didn't vote in this poll.
Sorry, but I do not have a proposal that could work. We can not generalize anything and thus there are exceptions. If one could prove that that information can not be obtained by randomly using a search engine, then it should be removed and punished. You would have to take these things up higher as I can not do anything besides discuss or suggest potential changes. If there was a good way to effectively stop people from doing this, then the policy might change. As said, someone could be very persistent.
I also did not vote on the poll.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
September 19, 2015, 07:45:37 AM
#7
No. If the DOX (which it usually does) contains only information that is publicly available on search engines (your own fault), then it should not.

So how do you propose to resolve situations such as Josh Zerlan using private information in their customer database to dox me, and then blatantly lying about it being public information.

A vendor. Now the subject of an FTC lawsuit. Doxing an upset customer.

Theymos shrugs.

Disclosure: Didn't vote in this poll.
hero member
Activity: 500
Merit: 500
September 19, 2015, 07:02:39 AM
#6
The most important lesson to learn from people having their dox released is to protect your identity and info sufficiently. Having it posted on a forum is the least of your worries. IF some randomer on a bitcoin forum can find it then so can criminals and do much worse with it so you should make sure as much info about you is known as possible and minimize the possibility of any of it being leaked. Even if this forum does remove doxs its not going to stop them repeatedly posting it or posting it elsewhere so removing it is largely pointless any way.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1000
September 19, 2015, 06:37:31 AM
#5
I think it should only get deleted but if somebodies actually being really persistent and trying to call for violence against an individual then that's probably the one case where I would consider a banning to be okay, people have a right to privacy, even if some people do behave like total scum.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
September 19, 2015, 04:34:15 AM
#4
No. If the DOX (which it usually does) contains only information that is publicly available on search engines (your own fault), then it should not. Social security numbers and such get delete though.

t is not possible to effectively stop someone who is trying to DOX another member. They could create infinite amount of newbie accounts and keep posting it. They could leave their DOX information on their trust page which is not moderated either. Exactly how do you expect the staff to moderate this?
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