Topic: [POLL] Should I donate the Known Alts Donation funds to Bruno's plea? (Read 1268 times)

Damn... great reply nutildah.

The votes are in and overwhelmingly users have agreed that the Known Alts funds should be donated to Bruno's Plea:



Many thanks to everyone - I am just syncing my Bitcoin block-chain and will advise the relevant TX details shortly. I also intend to lock the thread in a few days time after any discussion has occurred.

We're down to the wire now - just under 48 hours until the results are in.  Vote now, or spread the word.

The intention is good but since he's already gone then much better to keep the money for good, there are so many donation's pledge already and I think it already help the family of bruno.

So keep the money and save it for good or better give it to the contributor on known alts thread as Christmas bonus when Christmas came(Just a suggestion).

Mini bump. We're in the seven day countdown.

(Even I don't know the vote result)

You do understand that "bud" refers to a certain type of green leafy plant that is sometimes smoked and it's "bud" is traded to grow in small, well lit rooms?

When I first saw his [plead] post from a few weeks ago, my spidey senses went off making me think there was 40-60% chance this was a scam and the whole thing was a money grab - after all, this is bitcointalk.

So I did a little digging.  He made several posts several months ago (Nov/Dec I think?) that discussed the shitty situation he was in.  I don't know if it was a cry for attention because he was all alone (what a sad thing to consider), bu it was clear that he believed he was  going to die, pretty soon, OR if he (or whoever he sold his account to) was just going for a money grab with a valuable account.

He hasn't logged on since April 3rd.

We have the obituary.

We have pictures of his hospital board, bracelet and the giant gash in his skull.

Pretty sure no money has moved from any of his donation addressed since then either.


Is it possible the whole thing is a scam?    Yeah.
A more likely situation: is it possible he sold the account and someone is faking Brunos death?  Yes.
The most likely situation:  He's dead.

I think he's dead.  

Yep, great friends I am sure. Such great friends you use a fundraiser to pay for his burial plot to fight your petty interpersonal vendettas as he lays dying.

It's OK - it was a joke that went over your head.  

"I believe I was his favorite.  He always called me "bud".


Hahahahaha

It could be that in his relationship with you, Vod, Bruno was like one of those grandpas who could not remember the names of all of his grandchildren, and when he could not remember the name, he would just call them "bud."  I hate to be the one to break the news to you.   

You're a fucking idiot.

If you had bothered to do the slightest bit of research for yourself you could have confirmed it for yourself, but you'd rather shitpost about it, I can only imagine to help fill your shitpost quota. Have some decency or common sense and just shut up.

Do you believe everything you read online? It might be   to you because you might know him better than others but it's also to me as well because the first I heard of this was a couple of weeks when he started asking for money. Usually when people come here begging with a sob story people rightly jump on them and question their authenticity.


Such as, you know, actual proof. Death certificates and so on. They're usually public record. I don't know about you but somebody just saying online that someone is dead isn't going to be enough for me to say case closed. Talking to a family member wouldn't really mean anything either because like you said why would you trust them or be able to verify who they are.


No, I'm saying faking his own death isn't something I believe he did or is doing, but I'm also saying just because someone says they're dying or are dead doesn't make it so. This is all we seemingly had for paripan and then his coins go walk about when they're worth a shitload. I think it's entirely possible he isn't actually dead and many others are sceptical even though he told people he was ill so bruno's case isn't exactly ludicrous to question either.


He was in the mood to ask for people's money by writing out a lengthy thread so taking some new pictures probably isn't hard. Those pictures could have easily been sent to someone else back in December as proof for something and then that person uses them at a later date to try get some money. There's a reason why timestamps are important. Maybe he used them then to solicit donations or to try sell his account to someone? I don't know. Just to clarify, I think it's far more likely that Bruno is actually deceased, but all I'm saying is nothing that has been posted here is 100% proof to me and we certainly don't know where that money is going at least. Gleb's accounts have been in the possession of others numerous times so it's not ridiculous for someone to question this when he uses month old pictures asking for money.


Yeah, apparently when Gleb sold/tried to sell his accounts that's ok with most people here. Funny how they don't feel that way with everybody else. Somebody could have done real damage with his accounts given their prominence and rank so that's why I'm saying I could never work him out. Likes to bust scams but then also is willing to sell his account to the highest bidder that could easily facilitate them. Not cool.


If he's sold his accounts multiple times before and knows he's dying then why wouldn't he sell them or give them way? Especially when he's in need of some cash. I still don't think that's ok but I can see why someone would do that. That's all I'm saying.


Not logging into his account for a while isn't going to mean anything. What happens if someone does log into those accounts in the future? Proof he's alive? As for the obituaries, I've only seen a couple but they're on websites that anyone can create one with zero proof.


All I'm saying is I require more proof than he said she said. You could be in on any scheme or shenanigans he might have been trying for all I know. Again, it's obvious that it's more likely he is gone, but at the same time anyone looking at this objectively from the things that have been publicly posted should be able to say that it's not 100% confirmed.


Shouldn't you be thinking about this logically rather than what people vote? I'm sure people will vote yes with the best of intentions hoping the money goes to helping him or his family out in some way but they probably don't know the whole facts. If the money is going to be wasted by doing so it seems kind of pointless. If you believe nutildah and he says he knows the situation better than anybody and is advising people not to send money to the address then surely it's not a great idea to do so.


I guess I'm not as asshole after all then either:

Sorry nutildah , but I believe I was his favorite.  He always called me "bud".    That's how I am going to remember him - friendly with most jokes over my head.  

Speculating on the dead is useless.   There are many live people here that have scammed thousands of times more.   RIP BRUNO.

Thanks for your input.  As I explained in the OP the funds aren't mine.  I have separately donated $50 towards the Plead, now I would like to give back to an early scam hunter in his hour of need.  As with everything, I have no doubt at the right time the funds will be accessed.  I felt that it shouldn't be just up to the current participants of the Known Alts thread, hence the public poll.

There are two perspectives so far that you must consider if you want to donate your BTC to Bruno.

• If you want to appreciate the contribution of Bruno who has made him a highly respected member, then you must donate it without having to consider whether the funds collected can be used by his family or not. Even though you will not donate all the bitcoin you mentioned, but in reality you have appreciated him and his last wishes.
• If you want your donations to be used by his family then make sure that the funds collected in several wallets can be withdrawn and distributed to the family for the benefit of Bruno and this way is to prevent an increase in the amount of funds collected in vain

Apart from all that, you can appreciate Bruno contribution in any way as long as its good for you, the forum and many other users.

Bump - get your votes in - just ten or so days left to vote.

Some of you need to take your posts back to Bruno's Plea thread as your posts are straying from the question of the poll. I assure you I am reading every post in both threads and am taking that into consideration.

Thanks again.

 


Such as? The only thing I can think of that would satisfy you would be to talk to a family member in person, and even then, how do you know they're not lying to you? I suppose you can ask the hospice for whatever record of his death is publicly available. Again, you'll have to go there in person in order to make sure you are not receiving forged evidence.


Sounds like one of those "I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens"-type deals.


Why? He went to the hospital 3 times between December and March and was admitted to the hospice in late March. Maybe he wasn't in a picture-taking mood after being given 2 months to live (which turned out to be closer to 2 weeks).


I definitely got that from your interactions with him in the past.




That's very considerate of you.

Look, I get the whole "don't trust - verify" thing that people here zealously cherish, but in your case all you can do is go by his last login date to see if anybody (or him if you disbelieve obituaries on a half dozen websites) has accessed his account.



I interacted more with Bruno during the past couple years than anybody else on the forum (most likely), and definitely more in the last few months of his life, when it truly mattered.





I'm telling you he's dead, I've been in contact with his family, and now I'm done commenting on the matter. Feel free to speculate further if you must.

Bruno's accounts have already been in the possession of at least two other parties so we can't really say how safe they are. If it's not 100% certain that the money will get to where it should then it's silly potentially throwing it away and I would agree with you that it would be better helping out someone's life who is in need of it. As for what Bruno did in preparation all we can do is speculate.


Trying to get money for tragedies or capitalising off somebody's death is a common scam because it works so well. They could have been working in cahoots with him as well, and assuming he is actually deceased (is there anything online other than the obituary sites and funeral home?). I'm not saying he faked his own death or anything but until I see something concrete I'll keep an open mind. I don't really believe it was someone else posting from his account either but using pictures from December was a little suspect, but nothing would surprise me with Bruno. I could never really figure him out. There were times when he seemed fairly desperate for cash in the past, especially when he sold his accounts, and that ICO or whatever he tried a while ago just seemed like every other cash grab ICO people come up with and when he popped up asking for money I was a little concerned. I think I'd be a little disappointed if he didn't figure out someway to troll us from beyond the grave though and that's why I'm still waiting for his accounts to reactive at some point. Selling them for one final time would definitely be a way to get a little extra cash. I probably wouldn't even blame him for selling them given the circumstances.

I did not vote "yes" in the poll. You and I both know that's not what I was saying Yes to.

As a matter of fact, I don't think that's a good idea at this point.

This is what I said: