Topic: [POLL] The Official Dirty Turds Poll - Which DT needs flushing first ??????????? - page 13. (Read 5168 times)

Wow, they even sleep together! 

I'm not reading any further than that, but what's astounding is I copy/pasted this post into Word and it is 2,262 words long!!!

What a magnificent waste of time!

I kind of wanted roach to win my troll poll but you really have been putting some astounding effort into your game recently, so if you end up winning, you certainly earned it.

Can some point me to the last time loyceV charged for splattering his stats all over this board.

NO fuck off I'm not going to pay you 1 satoshi for this stats dumping  that nobody can prevent you doing usually.

Fine, I will CORRECTLY state that the DT1 especially those on my initial post are spattering each other with vast amounts of merit. If you pull up the top 20 fans and recipients of those DT1 especially those we will be adding to the initial post you will find that

They fans and recipients lists will BE STACKED FULL OF EACH OTHERS NAMES.

Their strange and unheard of reluctance especially LOYCEV aka Robovac to provide such lists or the nice little connecting nodes images they use to demonstrate "possible " merit abuse or farms is a nice little pointer as to how they are fully aware but wish to HIDE this Evidence.  You can be forgiven indeed for wondering if loyceV is complicit and in full knowledge of this. OF course he is. Look at the bullshit he has already spewed on this thread. Neutral lol.

It stands to reason IF THEY COULD DEMONSTRATE THEIR MERIT LISTS ARE NOT STACKED FULL OF EACH OTHER THEY WOULD PRESENT THEM IN SECONDS.

they will not present them at all.

We offered robovac a place on the initial post which he was begging for ... he says that is not enough now even with his own little image so you can see him in gif form sucking up the dirt behind theymos's dogs kennel (which currently smarmacist has taken up residence in, calling it his new "ranch")

@the new nobody - please put us back on ignore, your posts make zero sense and in future just post from your tman or lauda account. You are more entertaining when you take on their traits. Please learn what words mean before attempting to chain them together into some jumbled mass of word salad with zero content that is verifiable other than to take your untrustworthy word for it. I find your brand of  humor to indicate you are incapable of producing value as entertainment or in any other way. So if you want to help keep bumping this valuable and independently verifiable thread then just do it under one of your other scamming accounts like tman or lauda.

LOL at you copying observable instances into your gibberish and not providing any at all. You dumb fool. Please present examples in future or we will call you on them. Then you will look even more foolish.

This is going off topic.

Please stick to discussing the items in the initial post.

NOBODY HAS YET PRESENTED ANY REBUTTAL OF THE OBSERVABLE INSTANCES OF FINANCIALLY MOTIVATED WRONG DOING BY THE DIRTY TURDS THUS FAR.

PLEASE TRY HARDER.

You are welcome to offer your incentives for votes though, so long as they meet our approval.


Sorry fox poop we forgot the flux capacitor is broken, must be annoying not being able to machine gun merits to your pals every micro second (in our time)

I have no idea what you're talking about, so stop dragging me into things and let go of my leash.

You are the biggest pajeet on Bitcointalk, which is an observable instance. I never said you are above any of us. I have a feeling that's the issue at hand. You're surrounded by successful traders, physical bitcoin collectors and other wealthy people while you're sitting in some shitty shack somewhere in India. Calling yourself (Cryptohunter) wealthy isn't fooling anyone. I understand where the saltyness is coming from but your behaviour is getting boring. I'm considering to put you back on my ignore list.

I'm sorry, I didn't know I was required to jump when you say so. I'll make you a deal: get me a clear set of requirements, and I'll get you a quotation. After paying my fee, I'll get you your stats.

And because I expect a very long post and boring post, I require 0.00001BTC per word to be paid upfront just for reading your requirements

So let's have a quick recap before we take a snooze.

1. LoyceV the rampant stats spewing ROBOVAC refuses to compile a top 20 fans and recipients of DT1 members
2. Everyone else refuses to do so.


WHY? because as actmyname is preparing you to accept - that WHEN or IF you ever viewed those lists they would be CRAMMED FULL with each others names. So there you have it the VAST VAST MAJORITY OF THEIR MERITS is as a result of that tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny subset of the forum believing EACH OTHERS  posts are the most valuable. Even with no single list of set criteria to measure them against. They just all happen to be pals mostly hanging in meta ( a tiny subboard) and all happen to be the best and most valuable posters in EACH OTHERS OPINIONS. Seems legit right?  I mean it does not matter that many will not even offer up 5 of their best original thought inspiring contributions or list their Achievements here, or that many are OBSERVABLY guilty of scamming, lying, double standards, and other untrustworthy behaviors or knowingly supporting them and refusing to even put a warning there to protect others. However many are TOTALLY down for putting a warning on your account IF YOU MENTION THOSE PAST OBSERVABLE INSTANCES OF WRONG DOING.

This is all just a coincidence? of course although they are observably shit posting fools and morons who get made to look foolish under any kind of pressure or scrutiny and a concentrated bunch of untrustworthy scum that will abuse trust to punish whistle blowers their VALUE TO EACH OTHER is clearly apparent.

That is not the end of the very very strange definition  and appraisal of value and trust. I mean on top of that even though they are all acutely aware of the observable instances of wrong doing (LISTED IN THE INITIAL POST)  they still feel that EACH OTHER are also THE MOST TRUSTWORTHY AND SHOULD BE ON DT. Imagine that?? so not only do they think that although they are observably low functioning  they also produce the most valuable posts, they think that although they are guilty of all the observable financially motivated wrong doing in the initial post WHICH IS THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE (ALTHOUGH NUTILDAH SEEMS TO BE BOASTING THAT IS NOTHING ) that makes them the most trustworthy in EACH OTHERS OPINIONS) well you would expect that right? I mean what is wrong with you?  morons who gets destroyed in every debate are the ones who make the most valuable posts YEP THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE, and those that scam, lie, try to discredit whistle blowers with trust abuse, employ clear double standards  are the ones that are most  trust worthy YEP THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE ALSO.

Then the ONLY people that have any chance of standing against them due to having grasped enough merit via UNDENIABLY GOOD POSTS over the years, a group of people that on the WHOLE (although none are our cup of tea really since most have criticized the true legend unjustly for his direct and honest approach to scammers, liars and their supporters) present posts that do not fall apart under the slightest scrutiny and seem to be based upon some solid reasoning and logic. Well guess what the most ardent scammers, liars and their supporters ALL SEEM TO believe they should be excluded from the trust system?  Oh really, what a coincidence.

That is almost laughable but wait there is more, these observable bunch of retarded scammers and scam supporters MOST ALL  seem to have creamed off the highest paying (in btc) sig spots. There are a handful of these spots on the board THE BOARD WITH 100,000'S OF ACTIVE  members and yet this SAME HANDFUL OF PEOPLE seem to have creamed of the majority of all of these top paying spots??  what you say, well you would expect to see a bunch of dumbo scammers and liars and their supporters be paid the most to continue posting their political drivel to ensure that there is NEVER A FAIR AND TRANSPARENT SET OF RULES THAT ENSURE EACH MEMBER IS TREATED EQUALLY.  Of course that is exactly what you would expect when systems of control are this poorly thought out and implemented. That is what you would expect anywhere where a small circle of individuals centralize and concentrate power in their own hands. THIS IS THE ANTI SATOSHI systems of control operating under your very noses.

Did theymos do this on purpose. NO. We have started to believe he did not. He does seem to want a fair and transparent board where each member is given a fair chance and treated equally but sadly every time he comes to meta board a listens to people like lauda worm tongue and his bunch of conspiring scum bags he gets pushed to change things for THEIR benefit. The rise of the threshold of merit to 250 cycled merits was RETARDED it concentrated power to a few people that were already abusing the system and favoring each other. The true legend spotted this immediately but was jumped upon by this bunch of scum who tried all that they could to get him banned.

Wake up theymos, you are trying to improve a system built upon a festering heap of racid shit. You are hoping it will become MORE fair and decentralized as it grows. This is not essentially going to happen where they can power up their acolytes and alts with merit allowing only those in such large proportions into system controllers any rotation or other weak sauce attempts will do NOTHING.

Flick the merit requirement down to 100 from 250 and use activity as a far stronger weighting. You can not replace nuked abusing accounts of 1500 activity like you can accounts showered in merit for starting some shit stats or poll or thread. Decouple merit from rank after snr.  These are very simple alterations to REALLY decentralize the power here.

Of course you would expect a group of pals given all the merit to give out on the basis of THEIR OPINIONS of whom deserve it most would have all of merit. I would expect that also. You would also expect those with crumbs or merit to seek favor from those handing out the merits based on their opinions only. This is what you would expect if you don't place some strict definition and criteria for allocating merit. Imagine all merits given to faux rebuttals and bullshit that got debunked were deleted ...that would be kinda useful. Political points would be a better name merit, or perhaps anti-merit?

Nutildah " the observable instances of gross financially motivated wrongdoing and scamming/scammer supporting, double standards  in the initial post = NOTHING "  stop going on about nothing will you please.

This is SO BORING - whenever you demonstrate we are scamming lying scum double standards scum, you keep demonstrating the SAME THING over and over again THAT WE ARE SCAMMING LYING SCUM DOUBLE STANDARDS SCUM.  Please stop presenting the same thing about us. Tell people we are trustworthy and valuable for a change. It is boring to keep hearing the truth about ourselves.

Thenewnobody345234 - I talk like tman, I wear the same sig as Tman and Lauda, I protect Tman and Lauda's trust abuse and scamming and lying, actions, I include Tman and lauda on DT (or did until lauda was removed)  I may not actually be tman or lauda although I joined around the same era too but you should view my posts are unbiased and neutral.

Also I Thenewnobody345234 am as dumb as Tman because I consider a pajeet being above us all (including myself) being some kind insult to the pajeet and not myself. LOL

Get these scumbags out of here. They make the rest of you look worse. We didn't think that was even possible.


@suchmoon WRONG AS USUAL


Hey police that guy just stole my car

suchCOP - STOP BITCHING MOFO that car thief is cool, I know him well.

Hey police there is that same guy selling my car to someone else

suchCOP - ALWAYS BITCHING ABOUT THE SAME THING, leave my car thief pal alone or I may have you arrested.

3rd party by stander? hey suchCOP why not arrest the criminal and get this guy his car back.

SuchCOP - NAH NOT WORTH IT BITCHES GONNA BITCH I know the thief he's cool.  THIS same bitching behavior happened when a different cool friend of mine stole that bitches motorcycle before. There is simply no point listening to his bitching it will never stop right? or do you want to get arrested too?

3rd party bystander - Hmmm



Lauda gave a red scam tag to the true legend because the 2 000 000 000 USD legend (who had previously slayed that scamming piece of shit and his lies many years since past)  said if lauda continued to call him a liar after being asked to present the lie 2x already and would not, then the true legend would encourage others to read laudas post history for themselves to see who was calling who a liar. Lauda said that was blackmail LOLOL and deserving of a scam tag.

That TRUST ABUSE only (we hear) started to come to the true legends attention after the lauda was placed back on DT. That is when we observe the true legends rightful wrath and righteous scathing posts of both the moronic merit system and the moronic decision to convert DT into a cess pool of scammers/scammer supporters and merit cyclers came to pass on the board known as bitcointalk. That was in the first age of bitcoin. In the year of 2018. As foxpup can tell you it never ceased after that point until a fair and transparent system was introduced that treated all members equally.

Many friends of the true legend came and went, taken down by various disgusting miscreants and untrustworthy selfish and greedy scum bags and their unfair power granted by the warden of bitcointalk along his path of experimenting with decentralized control until a viable solution was found. Using gamed metrics and enlisting and corrupting mods along the way with back room deals on the most lucrative sig campaigns. Each time though the friends arose with renewed vigor and stealth. `

Lauda is likely not even the worst since some of its past is not entirely without some merit. It is apparently not entirely satisfying to CH to have had to be SO negative towards Lauda since there has been instances where Lauda has been observed to be both helpful and to a degree repentant. There are likely far worse individuals that have not simply crossed paths with us before.

Having said that regardless of the personal damage a person tries to do you then you should not ignore clear wrongdoing or trust abuse to ANY member. The true legend seemed to have never given 1 shit about merit, trust or any of that contrived bullshit before he was asked to look into a case of what appeared to be bullying of a new member. Also looks to have encountered more trouble by sticking up for legends that seem to have been clearly net positive over the years that were targeted for some complete bullshit copy and paste that was for the GOOD of others and were getting banned. The true legend does not like bullying or small groups of bullies increasing their power via broken systems of control that they are gaining. Suchmoon is a total fucking bully and scumbag and the pharmacist can act like a bully also at times. Crush them down and take away their power. Bullies should never been allowed to grasp power in the first place. The pharmacist was as meek as a lamb when he came here now can turn into a tyrant when he thinks no person is looking.



"whats the point of all this merit, I'm already a legend" well fuck off then and let us cap your merit at 1000. Why not cap all legends at 1000 if there is no advantage to it. How about you loyceV cap it at 1k and all the other DT's?  but then what about

1. your ability to control DT selection
2. your ability to take the best sig spots if they are based on per monthly earned merits of whatever shit the campaign managers are dreaming up to prevent any competition to you guys.
3. your ability to make all these stats all over merit showing you are the most valuable and best posters
4. Your ability to say well my opinion matters more cos look at my higher earned merit score


the worst part is having so much merit to give, this is the carrot of group think and echo chambers , trust abuse is the stick (although theymos fixed it up quite a bit lately but that will not really help if campaign managers are still allowed to use the OLD trust score as an excuse to exclude people from their highly paid sig campaigns)

Anyway back to the fun part of thinking up negative remarks about each other in a semi comedic and childish manner (ours the truth  grounded in observable instances yours bogus and pulled out of your ass).

We are all enjoying it now, seems a shame to ruin the mood with all the UNFAIR AND CORRUPT PAST EVENTS. Let's just enjoy the promos you are all offering.

It's been tested when marlboroza removed his neg trust and it didn't work back then. CH will find always something to bitch about.

Apparently Cryptohunter is on a very long and expensive holiday so The-Pajeet-Above-All can't be his alt account.

Bragging rights? I don't need Merit at all, and yet, I've checked every single Merit I ever received. It's more or less feedback on my post quality.

It's cryptohunter's alt, so he already has a Legendary account.

This shouldn't have anything to do with Merit. Although ending up on people's ignore list because of thousands of annoying posts doesn't help either

I really don't understand the whole 'merit cycle' narrative. Most of the DT members are already Legendary users so getting more merit has no purpose (besides pissing off pajeets like The-Pajeet-Above-All). Are you just salty you will never become a Legendary user because nobody likes you?

Here you go: http://loyce.club/Merit/merit.all.txt
Knock yourself out ch! Try to produce something for a change, instead of just complaining about everyone else. Good luck, this single file has all the information about Merit you ever wanted. Updates on Fridays.

Isnt an abuse,because they are DTs,if you're out from their circle you abused the system and you are a troll if you oppose them.

I don`t know but whoever banned my old account for talking about time banking/duration distribution/self voting and the end of bitcoin mining and showing a simulation of it 6 years ago, flush them, Fiat loving fuck.

Blown out of proportion?? ?? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ?

No way! Proportion is adequate for the grievous offenses we have committed. We should probably all be drawn and quartered, actually.


How can that be when they adamantly reject all suggestions that they are the same people?


I find that a bit hard to believe. I think ch toaa will continue to bitch here for the rest of eternity. but thanks anyway for the suggestion. I don't even read what they write anymore. Not only is it too long but its just rehashing the same nothing over and over again.

Now watch as they continue to rehash the same nothing...

Does anybody remember how this "DT drama" with cryptohunter (aka The-One-Above-All) started and don't you think that it was being blown out of proportion?

I believe this prolonged story can end when negative feedbacks - which had arisen from a heated debate - will be removed from cryptohunter.

If cryptohunter doesn't trust DT members, s/he can just use own Trust list, instead of writing critical essays about DTs throughout the forum. If cryptohunter has any facts against DT members, then let s/he public them in Reputation.

It depends on you, whether you want to continue squabble or finally stop this fight.

Sorry, I don't operate BPIP. Stats are available on Loyce's site if you want to compile them.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Even if a "DT cycler" is in a user's top ten, it doesn't mean it's abuse. After all, suchmoon is the third most merited user on Bitcointalk. They have also received merit from nearly 300 profiles.

And here's the thing: with such high merit counts, most of the users you've listed are bound to be on the top 20 send/receiver lists. 20 is a lot.

Here's the global ranking of users by how much merit they have, filtered to your list.

#    MERIT USERNAME
3.   2778 | suchmoon
7.   2032 | The Pharmacist
14.  1275 | Vod
24.  1131 | Hhampuz
26.  1096 | marlboroza
27.  1090 | Lauda
30.  1068 | nutildah
33.  1038 | TMAN
37.  965  | LFC_Bitcoin
71.  723  | yogg
96.  538  | Foxpup
304. 224  | owlcatz

Makes sense to me why suchmoon, The Pharmacist and Vod would show up as common occurrences on someone's list.

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suchmoon also shows up on the following people's merit sent lists ranked by merit received from ranks 1 to 50:

#4  | DdmrDdmr
#5  | o_e_l_e_o
#10 | hilariousetc
#20 | xtraelv
#22 | iasenko
#28 | bob123
#31 | mikeywith
#32 | coinlocket$
#34 | Steamtyme
#45 | TryNinja
#50 | ICOEthics

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In comparison, here's the same thing but ranked by merit sent (within 50)

By the way, suchmoon is the top merit sender.

#4  | Foxpup
#5  | bones261
#6  | LoyceV
#10 | Vod
#16 | Welsh
#20 | DdmrDdmr
#29 | The Pharmacist
#33 | o_e_l_e_o
#41 | nutildah
#50 | marlboroza

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Reminder, these values are for suchmoon alone and only for the sent merit list. We have not scratched the "received merit" list in which suchmoon can be found in most of the top merit receivers, including those that are not on your poll option list.

Seems this cycle is getting bigger each day  
Not at all, it was a -> b -> c -> a randomly picked example from quickseller's merit page. You can probably do a-b-c-a with most merit senders/receivers.

thanks actmyname. We do NOT want to sound ungrateful but the top 20 will be FAR more useful. These are only the top 10.  I mean there are going to be far more than 10 in the initial post finally? why is bpip only showing the top 10, when you have people with 5k merits surely it is useful to see even the top 30 or more really.

thanks for being the 1st to at least to attempt to offer the data we are requesting be put on display here for people to take a look at.

really we need a stats LOVER who can push all this to some lovely charts and pics for people to make up their own minds. I'm sure a nice chart with it all one will demonstrate clearly that the dirty turds are VERY VERY VERY frequently on each others fans and recipients even with just a top 20.

Fine. Here's what you want.

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