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Topic: [Poll] What algo will be GPU mined after ASIC's fully take over Scrypt mining. (Read 2449 times)

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It was only the wind.
I'm praying people use Scrypt-N, or the ASIC bullshit will just happen all over again.

I voted for Heavycoin. Very nice on the GPUs, implemented for ATI and Nvidia with good optimizations (2 prestigious programmers ended up "competing" for speed increases), no marketing or drama associated like there seems on X11, etc ...

The only I wouldn't want is the one winning, Scrypt-N. Even more heat, power use and component stress than plain scrypt.


Component stress is fine. These other shit algorithms are NOT ASIC resistant.
sr. member
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Based on the current poll, the top 3 are scrypt N, X11, and HVC. Now the next question is which algo has the most profitable coins to mine?
hero member
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‘Try to be nice’
Interesting results if you count "heavycoin" as cPoW (its borderline not much info)

The resulst are:

cPoW 40  ( x11 + Qrk + hvc)

Scrypt n 34

Take HVC out

34 v 34.
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I voted for Heavycoin. Very nice on the GPUs, implemented for ATI and Nvidia with good optimizations (2 prestigious programmers ended up "competing" for speed increases), no marketing or drama associated like there seems on X11, etc ...

The only I wouldn't want is the one winning, Scrypt-N. Even more heat, power use and component stress than plain scrypt.
sr. member
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Every algorithm in X11 are able to create by ASIC since day one, and it is not high memory constraint like Scrypt. The darkcoin dev also said.
Here is my thread : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-i-say-x11-and-sha3-are-not-asic-resistent-540160

No need to post this, you posted in another topic. The point is what will people turn to while ASIC Scrypt miners flood the market. I give you due diligence to pointing your facts/opinion, but no need to over do it please.
No, let him do it. It's extremely important that people understand that, while X11 is CURRENTLY the best algo without an ASIC for it, the dev has ZERO interest in keeping it ASIC-resistant, so it's only a temporary solution (albeit a relatively long term one, considering how fast time passes in the crypto world).

x11 it is NOT currently the best algo as we are seeing in the x11 thread i started in this section.

If it is the BEST algo right now please explain exactly why that is in the x11 thread because nobody else has been able to explain or give even 1 reason at all why it is superior to all previous algos.

This x11 is the best misinformation is nothing but marketing hype. Nobody can up with a reason why it is.



From what I understand, while all the algos in X11 might be not be asics resistant, making an asics that can do all the algos is a long way away. Smiley
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Momentum was developed specially to be used as PoW - and it's missing from the list?
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sr. member
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Every algorithm in X11 are able to create by ASIC since day one, and it is not high memory constraint like Scrypt. The darkcoin dev also said.
Here is my thread : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-i-say-x11-and-sha3-are-not-asic-resistent-540160

No need to post this, you posted in another topic. The point is what will people turn to while ASIC Scrypt miners flood the market. I give you due diligence to pointing your facts/opinion, but no need to over do it please.

He is actually informing those who voted for x11 instead of Scrypt-N.
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Will KNC even deliver?  Cheesy

"they're a big company, blah blah blah"

hard target release date: "meh, like maybe later this year or something"

joke.  Cheesy

KNC does eventually release their items for sale, just seems to be always late (mine with equipment before releasing to customers, maybe?).

BFL is even worse, seem like have of their shipments never even make it out. lol

Only Gridseed is out, truly. But ROI takes nearly 3/4 to a year for them at the current market prices.
legendary
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Will KNC even deliver?  Cheesy

"they're a big company, blah blah blah"

hard target release date: "meh, like maybe later this year or something"

joke.  Cheesy
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The top 3 votes so far are Scrypt-N, X11 and Groestl.


Metiscoin has a good GPU heat less also!

GPU =watts the best less watts more good for miner (test you mining for every Coin you will see) but anyone need to know how good is the coin, not just security(for me all this coin has very good security), inovation like vote in heavy(can be used differently), multi-pool resistance ,many technical we don't see it wen use the coin but wen  we have problem ....
for that you need to be an expert to analyses how is good this coin or that coin.
use all ,you will know!




Metis is good, just not strong enough dev support at the moment. The community has to help out.
newbie
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Metiscoin has a good GPU heat less also!

GPU =watts the best less watts more good for miner (test you mining for every Coin you will see) but anyone need to know how good is the coin, not just security(for me all this coin has very good security), inovation like vote in heavy(can be used differently), multi-pool resistance ,many technical we don't see it wen using the coin but wen  we have problem ....
for that you need to be an expert to analyses how is good this coin or that coin.
use all ,you will know!


hero member
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X11 is the algorithm of future
full member
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Someone on the french forum about mining i come from run some tests with a simple rig setup, with 2 x R9 280X

All tests ran with the same frequency etc..
Each algo can be optimized, but for comparison, it's good.

Power at the wall:
Quote
Idle
80-90w
 
scrypt
550W - 2 x 720khs
 
Scrypt-N
537W - 2 x 350khs
 
Scrypt-jane  
485W- 2 x 133khs
 
Groestl
271W - 2 x 7 025khs
 
Myr-G
295W - 2 x 9 920khs
 
skein
440 W - 2 x 212 500khs
 
Keccak
430W - 2 x 316 000khs
 
X11
285W - 2 x 2 080khs

Result : Groestl is the most gpu friendly algo, for power, temp and noise, even better than X11 Smiley



I'd like to see how fugue compares to groestl. My card runs just as cold as X11 when mining fugue, so I think it would definitely be a competitor on that list. I don't mine fugue any more though. Coin seems to be dying. The dev likes to take a "hands off approach to marketing" - and that's a direct quote!

Id like to see how hefty1 with heavy coin goes. My setup is whisper quiet when mining heavy (x11 also the same). i got 86 mh's with 4 x 280x
full member
Activity: 140
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Someone on the french forum about mining i come from run some tests with a simple rig setup, with 2 x R9 280X

All tests ran with the same frequency etc..
Each algo can be optimized, but for comparison, it's good.

Power at the wall:
Quote
Idle
80-90w
 
scrypt
550W - 2 x 720khs
 
Scrypt-N
537W - 2 x 350khs
 
Scrypt-jane  
485W- 2 x 133khs
 
Groestl
271W - 2 x 7 025khs
 
Myr-G
295W - 2 x 9 920khs
 
skein
440 W - 2 x 212 500khs
 
Keccak
430W - 2 x 316 000khs
 
X11
285W - 2 x 2 080khs

Result : Groestl is the most gpu friendly algo, for power, temp and noise, even better than X11 Smiley



I'd like to see how fugue compares to groestl. My card runs just as cold as X11 when mining fugue, so I think it would definitely be a competitor on that list. I don't mine fugue any more though. Coin seems to be dying. The dev likes to take a "hands off approach to marketing" - and that's a direct quote!
newbie
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Scrypt was ASIC resist,it's Economics Problem !!not more than that if you create SuperAsicResistenceCoin you get ASIC for that coin Just if: Coin get market & $$$$ PROFITABLE $$$ for ASIC Manufacture
to resist asic "specific" you need to still small with differents algorithms for that we need more good algorithms(not clone) to resist Asics with markets profitable for small miner but not for big thinks !!!like ASICs

ASIC for differents algorithms will not be Asic

  
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
Someone on the french forum about mining i come from run some tests with a simple rig setup, with 2 x R9 280X

All tests ran with the same frequency etc..
Each algo can be optimized, but for comparison, it's good.

Power at the wall:
Quote
Idle
80-90w
 
scrypt
550W - 2 x 720khs
 
Scrypt-N
537W - 2 x 350khs
 
Scrypt-jane  
485W- 2 x 133khs
 
Groestl
271W - 2 x 7 025khs
 
Myr-G
295W - 2 x 9 920khs
 
skein
440 W - 2 x 212 500khs
 
Keccak
430W - 2 x 316 000khs
 
X11
285W - 2 x 2 080khs

Result : Groestl is the most gpu friendly algo, for power, temp and noise, even better than X11 Smiley





Please stop marketing another SHA-3 candidate, Groestl is also one of SHA-3 candidates and it is able to create ASIC to mine since beginning.
Please take a look at this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIST_hash_function_competition or http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/hash/sha-3/Round2/Aug2010/documents/papers/SCHAUMONT_SHA3.pdf
full member
Activity: 231
Merit: 100
Someone on the french forum about mining i come from run some tests with a simple rig setup, with 2 x R9 280X

All tests ran with the same frequency etc..
Each algo can be optimized, but for comparison, it's good.

Power at the wall:
Quote
Idle
80-90w
 
scrypt
550W - 2 x 720khs
 
Scrypt-N
537W - 2 x 350khs
 
Scrypt-jane  
485W- 2 x 133khs
 
Groestl
271W - 2 x 7 025khs
 
Myr-G
295W - 2 x 9 920khs
 
skein
440 W - 2 x 212 500khs
 
Keccak
430W - 2 x 316 000khs
 
X11
285W - 2 x 2 080khs

Result : Groestl is the most gpu friendly algo, for power, temp and noise, even better than X11 Smiley



newbie
Activity: 45
Merit: 0
Just Grostlcoin Is Simple:

-fast growth
- Groestl is the most gpu friendly algo, for power, temp and noise, even better than other.
-YES,for mining SUMMER coin !! Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool  (or better make investment Now!!!!! )
- new market, the coin is good investment Wink why Huh?? Block reward reduced by 6% every week few week now= months after
-The design of Groestl is transparent and based on principles very di erent from those used in the SHA-family,The two permutations are constructed using the wide trail design strategy, which makes it possible to give strong statements about the resistance of Groestl against large classes of cryptanalytic attacks. Moreover, if these permutations are assumed to be ideal, there is a proof for the security of the hash function.

more info please read:http://www.groestl.info/Groestl.pdf

 GroestlCoin is A part of FUTURE
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