[Poll] What do you think of the forum's usage of reCaptcha? - page 4.

jtipt

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Quote from: InvoKing on October 19, 2017, 03:25:01 PM

Didn't notice that the forum uses it until few weeks when I accidentally logged off, and I don't think that it is hard to solve it.
Keep it that way tho

Yeah, I don't remember when was the last time I logged out from my usual devices lol. Really, the captcha is not annoying or anything a giving a few seconds in the name of security before logging in shouldn't be much of a problem.

krunox123

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I don't bite.

Honestly, I don't mind the captchas, and they are not that difficult, but I've only ever seen captchas in the login page... (?_?)

dillpicklechips

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For me, I always checked the box to stay my account logged in with no time limit so I rarely solve those captchas. Anyway, it isn't that hard to solve those so I can't understand what trouble does it bring to other people since I understand what its purpose is.

cellard

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Quote from: Coin-Keeper on October 19, 2017, 03:19:53 PM

Quote from: theymos on October 18, 2017, 08:28:36 PM

I probably won't make changes in the near future, but I've been thinking about the captcha issue, and I wonder what people think about reCaptcha.

Where reCaptcha is used now, something is required, and AFAIK all other captcha services can be OCRed and are therefore useless. End-users often like SolveMedia, but those seem really easy to OCR. I actually really like the image classification approach on a theoretical level, though I hate relying on ~~NSA-lite~~ Google, and occasionally on Tor they throw you into some insane black hole of difficulty (though you can change your Tor exit to fix that).

Let me stress what Theymos posted here for TOR users. I am here exclusively via TOR and have experienced the "black hole" he mentioned above. For some reason the change circuit feature on the TOR bundle fixes it. Nobody likes to stop and answer Captcha's, but if it keeps us from getting pounded on the server front end so be it! Once I go through the 30 second process to get in it runs slick for me. Good job!

About Tor... the DDOS attacks are brutal specially on Tor users. I wasn't able to browse the site today with Tor at the office, so I had to wait to arrive home and try with a normal IP, it was still slow, but Tor becomes unusable and today there was a heavy attack going, I got "busy, (504) and (502)" messages.

Now it's pretty decent again. And btw Tor got updated today and the noScript button is back so turning javascript on and off is now easier.

LTU_btc

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Slava Ukraini!

ReCaptcha ins't a problem for me on bitcointalk, because I always staying signed in and don't have to solve it. But from my experience, I know that people who have to solve it frequently, they get more difficult captcha (faucets users will understand about what I'm talking about).
But, is it there are no good alternatives for Recaptcha?
Maybe Coinhive proof of work captcha can be used? Just kidding...

100bitcoin

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Re-CAPTCHA is not a problem for those of us who remain logged in. But, its a BIG barrier for Tor users as Re-CAPTCHA tend to treat Tor users as bot.

Tesorex

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I'd like to start using the new forum.

InvoKing

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✋(▀Ĺ̯ ▀-͠ )

Didn't notice that the forum uses it until few weeks when I accidentally logged off, and I don't think that it is hard to solve it.
Keep it that way tho

Coin-Keeper

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Quote from: theymos on October 18, 2017, 08:28:36 PM

I probably won't make changes in the near future, but I've been thinking about the captcha issue, and I wonder what people think about reCaptcha.

Where reCaptcha is used now, something is required, and AFAIK all other captcha services can be OCRed and are therefore useless. End-users often like SolveMedia, but those seem really easy to OCR. I actually really like the image classification approach on a theoretical level, though I hate relying on ~~NSA-lite~~ Google, and occasionally on Tor they throw you into some insane black hole of difficulty (though you can change your Tor exit to fix that).

Let me stress what Theymos posted here for TOR users. I am here exclusively via TOR and have experienced the "black hole" he mentioned above. For some reason the change circuit feature on the TOR bundle fixes it. Nobody likes to stop and answer Captcha's, but if it keeps us from getting pounded on the server front end so be it! Once I go through the 30 second process to get in it runs slick for me. Good job!

cellard

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The reCaptcha is insanely incisive when you are using Tor. It asks you to make the "street sign" and "vehicles" ones which are tolerable, but then there comes additional rounds of "cars", which are the ones where you have to click on car pictures that fade to white in slow motion several times until the system considers you not a bot. It is honestly annoying. The fact that you have to turn on javascript on then off manually is also annoying.

Btw, I don't know what the hell is up with the latest Tor upgrade, but the noScript button has disappeared. I was considering whitelisting the login url (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=login) but I can't find the button anymore.

OgNasty

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Quote from: Lauda on October 19, 2017, 01:06:44 PM

For people who log in and out frequently. This is not an issue for individuals such as myself, who are pretty much always logged in.

As long as it combats some forms of attacks, it is fine as is.

I agree. Knowing it annoys the account farmers is good enough for me to support it and I've only had to solve it once so far.

Lauda

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Terminated.

It is fine other than:
1) The necessary use of JavaScript at the login page.
2) For people who log in and out frequently. This is not an issue for individuals such as myself, who are pretty much always logged in.
3) May be annoying to log in on the phone.

As long as it combats some forms of attacks, it is fine as is.

Welsh

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Personally, I've only had a problem with these sort of captcha with Tor it doesn't bother me too much having to enable java script. But, using Tor they can become very annoying quickly.

I'm not sure why it's different with Tor, however I've tried for a couple of minutes a few times just to login. I noticed a few times that you'll go through them and you can only click next even though you have followed the directions correctly. Eventually, you'll come to one which you can actually verify. Slight issue with Tor is too many requests, but like you mentioned you just need to change node to solve it.

Even though I have my issues with it, I think it's the best thing around right now and you'll probably have to make a compromise on spam if you were to take a different approach.

eternalgloom

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When do you have to solve these? Don't think I've ever noticed, perhaps while logging in, but I rarely have to do that anyway.
Recaptcha is my favourite though, I'd rather have one where I can use my mouse instead of keyboard.

Those captchas with numbers and letters are the worst.

shesheboy

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recaptcha is ok for me and any other captcha wil just work fine if your using a google chrome browser.

pinoyden

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Quote from: theymos on October 18, 2017, 08:28:36 PM

I probably won't make changes in the near future, but I've been thinking about the captcha issue, and I wonder what people think about reCaptcha.

Where reCaptcha is used now, something is required, and AFAIK all other captcha services can be OCRed and are therefore useless. End-users often like SolveMedia, but those seem really easy to OCR. I actually really like the image classification approach on a theoretical level, though I hate relying on ~~NSA-lite~~ Google, and occasionally on Tor they throw you into some insane black hole of difficulty (though you can change your Tor exit to fix that).

honestly its ok for me using this recaptcha system and i dont have any problems , also its not that hard and time consuming to solve it. it only takes 10 seconds of your time. i dont know why there were some users are having a hard time solving it.

Xzhyte

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Its okay. Most browsers support javascript and its not that hard to solve.

The_Dark_Knight

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Quote from: theymos on October 18, 2017, 08:28:36 PM

I probably won't make changes in the near future, but I've been thinking about the captcha issue, and I wonder what people think about reCaptcha.

Where reCaptcha is used now, something is required, and AFAIK all other captcha services can be OCRed and are therefore useless. End-users often like SolveMedia, but those seem really easy to OCR. I actually really like the image classification approach on a theoretical level, though I hate relying on ~~NSA-lite~~ Google, and occasionally on Tor they throw you into some insane black hole of difficulty (though you can change your Tor exit to fix that).

It was a necessary step, but to me the most annoying aspect is to enable JavaScript, I run noscript not so much for the added security but because it allows me to load websites faster, that is not much of a problem in the forum but I hate to have enabled anything that is related to Google also sometimes is annoying to resolve a captcha several times especially when there is not a clear answer but that does not bother me that much.

86-

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Can't vote, but the most easy is the most i need Wink

theymos

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I probably won't make changes in the near future, but I've been thinking about the captcha issue, and I wonder what people think about reCaptcha.

Where reCaptcha is used now, something is required, and AFAIK all other captcha services can be OCRed and are therefore useless. End-users often like SolveMedia, but those seem really easy to OCR. I actually really like the image classification approach on a theoretical level, though I hate relying on ~~NSA-lite~~ Google, and occasionally on Tor they throw you into some insane black hole of difficulty (though you can change your Tor exit to fix that).

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