Topic: POLL: Who Would You Prefer In Your Team: Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi? - page 2. (Read 752 times)

26 votes in total

18 votes for Ronaldo
8 vote for Messi

The consensus in the thread seems to be Ronaldo is preferred as the one most people here would like to have in their team if they were given a choice between the two.

^If you like some analysis: https://fmdataba.com/compare/147073-lionel-messi-147187-cristiano-ronaldo/

They are different types of players. CR7 is a striker, and Messi is an attacking midfielder - false nine. "Dependent" may not be the best term of this issue. As a false nine, Messi would drop deep and need world-class strikers like Eto'o, Ronaldinho, Suarez, Neymar, etc., to produce the best outcome. After Xavi and Iniesta retired, Messi's role becomes more as an attacking midfielder - playmaker. Meanwhile, CR7 is still a striker.

That said, if you play FM, you will find it more challenging to build a team with Messi than with CR7 since CR7 can be placed in any standard formations, just remove one of your existing strikers with CR7 and you good to go.

As for Messi, you will find many questions about what the team setup should be: https://www.google.com/search?q=messi+fm+best+position

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but then everything about your analysis isn't factual and in-explicit in all sense. Messi is never a dependent player , I would have loved as much as possible not to based my argument on what Ronaldo does wrong to contrast what Messi does right(as I did with my own opinion on the OP), I was expecting the same from a lot of people (who I believed to be much more enlightened) on this thread but then, I guess most people would rather fault what one flaws against the other's strength despite the fact this are two entirely different players.

Back to my argument, Messi is less dependent than Ronaldo. Every of Ronlado's champion league Trophy in Real Madrid featured Luka Modric, Sergio Ramos, Toni Kroos, Marcelo all during their prime, but Messi gets crucified for playing alongside Xavi and Iniesta at first, then Neymar and Suarez. Messi has been deployed more in the playing making role more than will ever.


Everyone doesn't need to be leader and is that necessarily a bad thing ? anyways I'm yet to see Messi being annoyed with his teammate scoring a goal because he hasn't/didn't, and since when does being a one-legged player becomes a bad thing huh?, but I guess you're admitting Messi is good with his left leg, and as a single-legged player/playing behind the striker(s) more often than, I guess you'd agree he shouldn't be scoring anywhere near the numbers he's scoring.

How so different do you really think both players are when you're talking about scoring with their less-preferred leg ?

image source: https://michelacosta.com/en/how-do-they-score/


Indirectly, you're insinuating or agreeing that finishing(goalscoring) is all what Ronaldo brings to the table ? and that Mess does just more than goalscoring ? but meanwhile Messi still have still afforded 697 goals in 856 appearance compared to Ronaldo's 725 in 1000 appearance, 28 goals less and 144 appearance to make up for it, that's a better goal per game ratio in advantage for a so called one-legged player (by you) ahead of the goal machine

Favors Messi ?! BIG LOL!
Do you really think both players have the same attitude or approach on/off field, I'm sure you know better.


I wasn't aware Messi by any chance had magic, thanks to you.

Since Ronaldo got to Juventus, they haven't won anything they hadn't won in the last 2 years before his arrival, in contrast they became less dominant the season he arrived (but in terms of goals, Yes! he has scored many).

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It is great to see the debates happening between members discussing these two extremely gifted footballers.

@JollyGood surely is a productive member. Thumb up for various interesting thread here!

Anyway, is there another event about this Ronaldo vs Messi thing? I don't think Ballon d'Or would be about these two GOATs again.

If we talk about these GOATs in prime, I will pick CR7 over Messi because he is more versatile (about position and role). Messi needs an entire team built for him to have the maximum outcome. He was shit in Argentina, meanwhile, CR7 carried his Portugal team won the EURO 2016. I don't think I'll play with false nine. I'd rather use LWF/RWF/CF

What you say it true, it mirrors my earlier post on the subject.

I picked CR. There was a video where even Messi hailed Cristiano as the greatest. He acknowledged CR for being able to win titles with different clubs in different major leagues and also for his national team. That's something he hasn't accomplished yet and who knows if he will ever achieved that (I don't think he'll transfer to another club).

Maybe add MU fans as well. CR did great things for that club too.

Indeed. Hmm when it comes only on pure skills, Messi for me is better. Imagine, he is not so tall and only got fair physique but look at him — football seems a basic thing for him . His ball handling is out of this world d*mn!

Honestly, I was an FC Barcelona fan since the very beginning but though the years I saw how Cristiano Ronaldo show that he is not only a good football player but a good hearted individual as a whole, thus I like him more now. We already saw many times how generous he is by giving to the needy and for me that's what make him more special.

So my final verdict is Ronaldo .

I'm sure every Barcelona fan will vote for Messi, while Real Madrid fans and Juventus fans will vote for Ronaldo for sure. Far from being a Messi bad player, but as a neutral member I have always appreciated Ronald's approach to playing at the club and in the national team. This man has always played at his maximum, leaving his heart on the pitch and has always been a key figure in every team.

In addition to being one of the best players ever, Ronaldo is also a great humanitarian who has helped and helps many in need. I can't say if Messi does anything like that, but Ronaldo definitely proves to be a compassionate man who gladly shares some of his wealth with others.

Cristiano is my choice.. my reason is because Cristiano has played in the English League, the Spanish League and finally the Italian League, every team that Cristiano has visited will surely show an increase in quality, playing in many leagues certainly makes Cristiano have to adapt to the team's game in that league.  whereas Messi has never moved to another league aside and that shows that Messi's experience is still far below Cristiano's.

What cannot be understated is how both Ronaldo and Messi are legends of the game in their own rights.

Ronaldo has proved his greatness by playing in three different top tier European leagues and being success in all of them (Premier League, La Liga and Serie A)

Messi never proved his greatness beyond a Barcelona team that was built around Xavi, Iniesta and Messi. After they both left Barcelona it was all about building the team around Messi but that has always limited him from proving himself as someone who could be successful beyond that Barcelona team.

Could Messi have been the player he is if he played in his peak in the premier league with its rough game play and heavy tackling and fast box-to-box speed? Ronaldo proved a domestic and European champion in la liga and premier league. He already is a domestic winner in Italian serie a and he would love to be a European champion too.

Even David Beckham was a success in the premier league and la liga. The prolific Sergio Aguero was a success in la liga and the premier league. The great Brazilian Ronaldo (El Fenomeno) was a success in la liga with Barcelona and Real Madrid and of course with Inter Milan even though blighted by injuries. That one season the great El Fenomeno Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima had at Barcelona under Bobby Robson, I saw electric pace and strength while he had to hold off multiple players trying to foul him but he was unbelievable.

What could Messi have done in another league outside his purpose built Barcelona team? We will never know but you can look at his failures for Argentina to come to some sort of conclusion.

As for what could Ronaldo have achieved playing in other top European leagues - we already know what he did with Manchester United, Real Madrid, Juventus and Portugal - he was a success and is a multiple European champion for both domestic leagues and the Portugal national side.

Cristiano Ronaldo is an excellent player. He is the favorite of all the boys in my family. He has great football performance and unsurpassed human quality.
Lionel Messi is a brilliant player too but always the one who stands out the most is Cristiano.
This year the sports world will be very different too. Let us ask God for His mercy to return to normality.
 

Don't even get why Messi is getting any vote, Messi is a dependant player, he needs to be playing with the best to achieve his full potential. He isn't a complete player, when you talk about leadership skills he doesn't have those. Without his left leg, Messi is as useless as Lingard. Ronaldo on the other hand is a big match player that delivers match after match. People think it's easy to score when all you have to do is complete the finishing touches, seems they haven't watched Morata play before especially at Chelsea.

Ronaldo on and off the pitch is far better than Messi but the media propaganda always favor Messi. They just want him to be the best even when he has lost his magic. Ronaldo has duplicated his success in three different league plus continental competitions but what has Messi done? Been made a god in Barcelona. Without wasting anytime, I'll choose Ronaldo over Messi.

That is absolutely true, imagine trying to make an all-time-greatest XI. That would be a monumental task.

Just look at Alan Shearer, Ian Wright and Gary Lineker trying to find the all-time Premier League XI. Such a difficult task: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hOaSFP3n0A

Cristiano Ronaldo of course. He has literally gone against all odds to prove how great a player he is.  He is a hybrid of hardwork and talent. While Barcelona was technically built for Messi(this is very evident through the failed Argentina project) , Cristiano Ronaldo has proved that he is a very reliable player at different club levels and Country

So, this is one of reasons why we can't call one of players as GOAT. I think it would be more reasonable to make XI of all time, and choosing best player in every position, but even this would make never ending discussions who is best goalkeeper, left back and etc.

Offcourse it is, same like every other post in this thread. I didn't said that is a fact.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, it is not fact.

The point being made is no single football player can be called the greatest player ever because there are 11 different positions to be played on football field and no single player has ever played in all 11 positions sufficiently enough to be called the greatest player ever therefore to compare like-for-like players would be more reasonable.


That not a fact, that is your opinion.

I think most of us are biased in this thread. Some here (including me) are fans of Messi and Barcelona, other love Ronaldo. So, answer will based on what we like more.
It's difficult to choose, but I pick Messi. I think he just makes bigger difference on the pitch even without scoring goals.
On the other hand, Ronaldo is such amazing player, especially in his prime. Comparing with Messi, he is stronger physically and he can score headers. And I see that he change throughout the years. Instead of playing individually, he started to play more for the team, he started to dive less and show less arrogance. I think he changed as personality, become more

Well, it's not fact, just your opinion. I don't think that forward have to play as defender or goalkeeper to show that he is best.
And personally, I don't think that calling Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona or Pele as GOAT. First of all, football was very different 50 or 30 ago, compared to what we have now. I think it would be just unfair to compare these players. And finally, there will be no consent reached who is best, because every side will have their arguments.
And finally, I think it's unfair that players from other positions get less credit. How many goalkeepers or defenders have won Golden Ball? Is it fair that players like Buffon, Bobby Moore, Xavi, Iniesta, Maldini, Pirlo or Oliver Kahn have never won it?

17 votes in total

9 votes for Ronaldo
8 vote for Messi

Keep the votes coming in because this is poll is very tight 

I choose Cristiano Ronaldo because i like more the way he plays. He is more like a team player than Messi. But is a hard question, is like choosing between Coca and Pepsi, a lot of people will chose fanta or some other flavor than those two.