Poloniex revives unverified accounts - page 2.

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Quote from: 1Referee on December 23, 2019, 08:34:00 AM

It may sound weird, but some people are attached to services such as Blockchain, Bitfinex, Bittrex, Poloniex, etc on a sentimental level. Time will tell whether or not that turns out to be a good decision. I think not.

Attached on a sentimental level, really?

I can't imagine that. If true, these people shall never manage their finances by themselves. You can invest with your gut, nothing wrong with that, but you must always be ready to reverse your judgment.

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Quote from: 1Referee on December 23, 2019, 08:34:00 AM

This recent move of Poloniex might help attract some of the older traders who never wanted to leave that exchange but were forced out. It may sound weird, but some people are attached to services such as Blockchain, Bitfinex, Bittrex, Poloniex, etc on a sentimental level. Time will tell whether or not that turns out to be a good decision. I think not.

There are fewer and fewer exchanges allowing unverified trading. Deribit is preparing for KYC with the AMLD5 deadline approaching. With Binance operating from Malta, it's expected they will either mandate it as well or jump ship to a shadier jurisdiction like Poloniex. Even "DEX" platforms like IDEX have mandatory KYC now.

That has to be a factor here.

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Quote from: countryfree on December 23, 2019, 06:37:49 AM

Does anyone with a sound mind thinks it's safe to store your BTC there?

People are messed up in the head when you look at how even some of the most trashy exchanges hold tens of thousands of Bitcoins on behalf of their users. That's enough of an indication that people aren't capable of making rational/smart decisions when it comes to how they store their coins. All the hacks we went through in the past weren't enough of a wake-up call apparently.

This recent move of Poloniex might help attract some of the older traders who never wanted to leave that exchange but were forced out. It may sound weird, but some people are attached to services such as Blockchain, Bitfinex, Bittrex, Poloniex, etc on a sentimental level. Time will tell whether or not that turns out to be a good decision. I think not.

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Quote from: LeGaulois on December 21, 2019, 04:44:17 PM

Yeah pretty sure it's a consequence of moving to this country. But well, the site is still not reliable to use at any cost. I hope people learned their lesson and after getting this update will move their coins outside their system asap (if they didn't verify their account). Anyone with a cell in the brain isn't going to stay on that platform.

So many alternatives around but please poloniex no thanks

This.

Poloniex's move should be seen as a sign of desperation. They've probably lost so many users that they're trying to attract those people on the fringes who want to trade without a KYC.

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Isn't anyone thinking about safety here?

When Poloniex was in Massachusetts, with a known owner, they managed to steal money from their clients.
Now they're in Seychelles, in a small island in the middle of the ocean, far from everything, and we don't know who is the legitimate owner.

Does anyone with a sound mind thinks it's safe to store your BTC there?

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That's a good way to compete with popular exchanges in the market now.
They were once popular because of that, so it might help their status to grow now with that good decision by theirs.

Binance is the leading exchange, they allow no KYC accounts up to a certain limit, so they should compete with it.

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I appreciate them for their decision. Don't know how they changed their mind but it's a positive motivation for crypto-currency community and other exchange as well. Often we are seeing post about KYC, and lots of people against of KYC especially during trading and buy crypto-currency. Their withdrawal limit also fair enough for medium & small traders. Major part of crypto-currency community is medium & small traders, I mean about capital. So it would be nice for them trading on poloniex now. I have remembered, I have created a account there long time ago, but never used it nor make deposit due to KYC drama. Because I don't think its necessary to use so many exchange with KYC since there is some other reputed exchange without KYC (Although limited withdrawal). Hope other exchange will motivated by poloniex regarding KYC policy.

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Quote from: countryfree on December 22, 2019, 08:26:53 AM

Hmm, of course.
A shady location is the perfect place for shady business.

This doesn't help BTC. There are already plenty of folks saying that cryptos are used by terrorists, drug dealers and dirty businesses, Poloniex has chosen to side with that kind of people. It's another reason to stay away from that exchange if you want to play safe.

To be fair, they're targeting a legitimate market niche. Binance and BitMEX became market leaders partly because of their liberal KYC policies. In fact, Poloniex originally rose to prominence on the basis of unverified traders before Circle entered the picture.

I definitely prefer using exchanges that don't require documents from me. That's not to say I'm going to use Poloniex, just saying.

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Quote from: mindrust on December 22, 2019, 07:56:47 AM

Too late the damage is done.

Indeed, the damage is done. But I think that the move will revive a little that exchange.
It's something I was expecting (hoping?!) with their move to Seychelles.
Although it's indeed a shady location which could cause other problems, let's be at least a bit optimistic.

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Hmm, of course.
A shady location is the perfect place for shady business.

This doesn't help BTC. There are already plenty of folks saying that cryptos are used by terrorists, drug dealers and dirty businesses, Poloniex has chosen to side with that kind of people. It's another reason to stay away from that exchange if you want to play safe.

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The vpn limits generally mean you can't use a non-premium/paid service but hear that paid ones update IPs often enough. Seychelles fast becoming the known unknown now isn't it?

But soon AMLD5 would anyway ease things off actually for eu based crypto exchanges. Era of no kyc will soon be over but when you can still do it at places like bitpanda licensed in Austria, not sure why people would return to Poloniex, given all their past user transgressions.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on December 21, 2019, 06:16:04 PM

I'm pretty sure my country is excluded from their list of places they provide their services to. And I was never a huge fan of Poloniex anyway, though they did have one or two altcoins available that I couldn't find anywhere else--but I'm not accumulating any of those garbage-y altcoins anymore, so no worries.

OTOH, this is kind of a good thing for people who can use them. I'm figuring that KYC-less exchanges are going to become a thing of the past eventually, so this almost feels like a throwback.

they prohibit USA users, but if all you need to sign up is an email address, using a VPN is an option. poloniex supposedly limited VPN usage per a report from the new york AG, but that's when they were owned by circle and run from the USA. i'm guessing it's not an issue now.

this could be a well-timed strategic move with the AMLD5 coming into effect next month. i'm especially curious about binance given their registration in malta. if binance goes full KYC, this will be a real game changer.

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Quote from: LeGaulois on December 21, 2019, 04:44:17 PM

Yeah pretty sure it's a consequence of moving to this country.

Has to be, but it isn't like I could take advantage of any of this, because I'm pretty sure my country is excluded from their list of places they provide their services to. And I was never a huge fan of Poloniex anyway, though they did have one or two altcoins available that I couldn't find anywhere else--but I'm not accumulating any of those garbage-y altcoins anymore, so no worries.

OTOH, this is kind of a good thing for people who can use them. I'm figuring that KYC-less exchanges are going to become a thing of the past eventually, so this almost feels like a throwback.

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Yeah pretty sure it's a consequence of moving to this country. But well, the site is still not reliable to use at any cost. I hope people learned their lesson and after getting this update will move their coins outside their system asap (if they didn't verify their account). Anyone with a cell in the brain isn't going to stay on that platform.

So many alternatives around but please poloniex no thanks

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This is a reversal from the norm: An exchange that previously mandated KYC is now allowing unverified accounts again.

Unverified Poloniex accounts can now withdraw up to $10,000 per day. Only an email address is required. I guess that's the payoff for moving to the Seychelles.

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Our Level 1 account tier allows customers to access unlimited trading, unlimited deposits, and $10,000 per day in withdrawals simply by entering their email address and password and verifying their email.

PSA: Poloniex's taking money from its customers to cover its loss

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