Ponzi discussion thread.. Time for it to go?

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Quote from: yenzae0215 on February 25, 2015, 04:13:54 AM

Quote from: waterpile on February 24, 2015, 10:01:40 PM

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I think pozi is another gambling.
It's bet who is more stupid than you more than lucky.

nope, ponzi is not gambling because ponzi is a scam.

some says ponzi is gambling because there is a chance on earning at the risk of your money Wink

All ponzis threads are actually gambling, with a very large edge as there is also a risk of getting nothing .

its not a risk anymore. its almost certainly a guarantee you will get nothing

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It is indeed somewhere between gambling and scam, but I feel like it's much closer to scam.
Also, everybody that is "investing" in a Ponzi actually hopes it will scam the ones that come after them, which is .. let's say not nice.

A new bitcoiner coming in here can see directly 1-2 very active ponzi related threads. He may conclude that bitcoin and/or bitcointalk is mostly related to illegal stuff.
I would also like to see all ponzis banned/removed/gone. It would make the forum a nicer place, with not so many obvious scams.

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Quote from: ndnh on February 24, 2015, 12:28:07 PM

I am quite confused.

I feel that we have a chanpion ponzi in 4 different ways it got introduced.

First HYIP, and you can find some infamous ones that scammed many coins. http://www.cnet.com/news/bitcoin-trader-mycoin-shutters-taking-387m-in-investor-funds/

Then came weeklyponzi. Different system. Attracted many. Successful. Scammed coins?

Then came CryptoDouble, 100 hour system. Attracted many. Successful. Went off with a giant loot.

Then btc-flow. Faucet system. Scam.

Is it that people like only a new kind of ponzi?
I have heard the claim that they are aware of the risks. And asked other to mind their own business other than warning them?

Isn't it time that we take a strong position against all ponzis, scam and hyips?

How about taking an oath that we will not invest in a ponzi from now?
(existing ones, let them be over.. or you won't take this seriously)

Let us clean up the board..

To believe the new ponzi will "succeed", it needs to have something new; it attracts payments until it collapses as all ponzis do.

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been long overdue time for them to go. i still believe its the same 1 or 2 ppl creating new accts daily n trying to scam

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Quote from: neoneros on February 25, 2015, 04:44:16 AM

Quote from: yenzae0215 on February 25, 2015, 04:13:54 AM

Quote from: waterpile on February 24, 2015, 10:01:40 PM

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I think pozi is another gambling.
It's bet who is more stupid than you more than lucky.

nope, ponzi is not gambling because ponzi is a scam.

some says ponzi is gambling because there is a chance on earning at the risk of your money Wink

It is like gambling, but the stakes are high and the house takes 99% Sad

i agree to you about that, 99% Edge of the ponzi Owner because anytime he can run away with the money :/

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Quote from: yenzae0215 on February 25, 2015, 04:13:54 AM

Quote from: waterpile on February 24, 2015, 10:01:40 PM

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I think pozi is another gambling.
It's bet who is more stupid than you more than lucky.

nope, ponzi is not gambling because ponzi is a scam.

some says ponzi is gambling because there is a chance on earning at the risk of your money Wink

It is like gambling, but the stakes are high and the house takes 99% Sad

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Quote from: waterpile on February 24, 2015, 10:01:40 PM

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I think pozi is another gambling.
It's bet who is more stupid than you more than lucky.

nope, ponzi is not gambling because ponzi is a scam.

some says ponzi is gambling because there is a chance on earning at the risk of your money Wink

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Quote from: koshgel on February 24, 2015, 01:32:26 PM

Don't allow Newbies to create new threads in this section

Agree with this. The good old "newbie cage" was a good system.

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Quote from: bitbaby on February 24, 2015, 11:31:18 PM

Let's just ignore the Ponzi threads and hope they die on their own because at this point we can't do much about them. People have been warned and know what a Ponzi is now and if they still want to throw their money away then it's their problem.

Thats what people should do. Last year a similar trend happened, but died out soon, when people stopped depositing in the ponzis. Each year a similar trend happens, and should put an end to them.

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Ponzis and gambling are different.

Most diceBJ etc. have 1% edge. Ponzis has 5% fee when it starts and takes 100% when it ends.

Most gambling sites do not end up as scam. (Yeah right some do.). All ponzis end up scamming.

Gambling = calculatable known risk. Ponzi = Only the operator will know when it is going to stop.
in other words, gambling = you are in control. ponzi = operator is in control

Gambling site may or may not profit. (thought the former is more likely.). Ponzis always make profit to the owner.

Ponzis will not make you win! You just donate it to the ponzi operator. Why not give it to someone who needs it more than him?

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Let's just ignore the Ponzi threads and hope they die on their own because at this point we can't do much about them. People have been warned and know what a Ponzi is now and if they still want to throw their money away then it's their problem.

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Quote from: GermanGiant on February 24, 2015, 03:17:56 PM

Quote from: FanEagle on February 24, 2015, 01:26:53 PM

Ponzi== Instant Ban.

What will you do when some people will claim Gambling == Instant Ban as none of them have gambling license ?

Not everywhere in the world bitcoin gambling sites would require a license.

But I think everywhere Ponzis are illegal

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Ponzi should be banned permanently .

Or a sub-forum page. For these kind of ponzis

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Quote from: bitwarrior on February 24, 2015, 10:06:22 PM

I think the moderators should find a way to restrict the proliferation of these ponzi schemes in this forum so not to entice more newbies or gamblers risking their money. It will do a great service to the community and uphold the morale as well.

I think it was already suggested about making a thread for these ponzies but I think they're just gonna ignore it..

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Sub forum for it where there's a post that says it's a scam by default.

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I think the moderators should find a way to restrict the proliferation of these ponzi schemes in this forum so not to entice more newbies or gamblers risking their money. It will do a great service to the community and uphold the morale as well.

waterpile

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I think pozi is another gambling.
It's bet who is more stupid than you more than lucky.

nope, ponzi is not gambling because ponzi is a scam.

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Quote from: Omikifuse on February 24, 2015, 08:41:59 PM

the forum should have the option of auto-ignore all ponzi topics.

The forum would be a better place to live if it was implemented

It sounds good but it is infeasible. There is no way the forum can recognize the ponzi threads automatically, as the ponzi owners will just mistype their thread title as "ponzzi" or use other terms like "investment plan".

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Quote from: birdcat90 on February 24, 2015, 09:12:50 PM

yes agree, ponzi should be banned...

its only make another investor that last join will be in loss

theres no business that pointed to be lose

Also most of them are losing their bitcoins while the site owner is earning tons of money.

**WTF please wake up! you're not going to be rich in these ponzi sites, only the scammers are

birdcat90

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yes agree, ponzi should be banned...

its only make another investor that last join will be in loss

theres no business that pointed to be lose

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