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Topic: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com - page 282. (Read 465559 times)

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Also, stop using the old intensity system... xintensity will give you much more granularity and probably increase your hashrate a bit too.

Amen to that! Having spawned threads set as a perfect multiple of shaders is simply far more efficient. I also found that on my 7950s it let me run 2 threads at X4 with a 13KH/s improvement per GPU.
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sorry I didnt mean 17 im high
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Welll....for the answer. Lower intensity will give you lower rejects. And less accepted shares. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.


Great info btw tho

Part in bold is not true. I18 or 19 will often result in higher accepted shares too.

What? 18 and 19 get higher shares then 17. Thats what I said?

Didn't see any mention of 17 in your post? Specifically I was referring to the generalization that lower I equals lower accepted shares. 19 or 18 will often result in higher accepted shares than 20 as well as less rejects.
sr. member
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Welll....for the answer. Lower intensity will give you lower rejects. And less accepted shares. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.


Great info btw tho

Part in bold is not true. I18 or 19 will often result in higher accepted shares too.

What? 18 and 19 get higher shares then 17. Thats what I said?
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Lowering your intensity is unlikely to significantly reduce your stales (most common rejects you will get on say middlecoin) on wafflepool, because wafflepool still accepts shares that are 1 block behind (just not 2 blocks behind).  Stop assuming stuff guys...

Also, stop using the old intensity system... xintensity will give you much more granularity and probably increase your hashrate a bit too.
sr. member
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Welll....for the answer. Lower intensity will give you lower rejects. And less accepted shares. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.


Great info btw tho

Part in bold is not true. I18 or 19 will often result in higher accepted shares too.
sr. member
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Welll....for the answer. Lower intensity will give you lower rejects. And less accepted shares. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.


Great info btw tho
sr. member
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Lowering your intensity on any pool would drop your rejects.

I believe this to be specious advice, though I cannot with absolute certainty claim otherwise.  Read this, investigate further, and then decide for yourself.

Intensity is used to spawn GPU threads as a simple 2^value setting.
  I:13 =    8192 threads
  I:15 =   32768 threads
  I:17 =  131072 threads
  I:18 =  262144 threads
  I:19 =  524288 threads
  I:20 = 1048576 threads
Notice how the higher settings increase thread count tremendously.

In short, if raising intensity increases your rejects my x%, but it simultaneously increases your hashpower by more than x%, then you're better off despite the rejects.  And there are other causes for rejects too, outside of your control.  As such, you have to expand your time horizon before jumping to any conclusions.

It seems odd on the face of it, but decreasing intensity can actually result in higher accepted shares as well as lower rejects despite what may or may not be a lower raw hash rate. The formula for time taken to complete a specific set of work sent to the GPUs is expressed as ((2^I) / (hash rate *1000)).

Assume that a card is giving you 600KH/s.

At I18 it will take 0.4369s
At I19 it will take 0.8738s
At I20 it will take 1.7476s

"Aha" you say, "but it will take a little more than half the time to complete half the work each time you drop the intensity because the hash rate will drop slightly". True because there is a need to send work back and forth more often, and that introduces some slight inefficiency. But you also have a good chance to produce an accepted share within that smaller block of work and submit it before the work is stale, and that's why you can end up with both higher accepted shares and lower rejects.

For reference, I ran 9 identically configured 4MH/s rigs for 24 hours, each pointed at the same pool that gave them the same work difficulty (1024). The results expressed as average per rig were as follows:

I18 Accepted Work: 3,371
I19 Accepted Work: 3,405
I20 Accepted Work: 3,391

I18 Reject Rate: 1.84%
I19 Reject Rate: 3.17%
I20 Reject Rate: 4.34%

Since we get paid for accepted shares, I19 was the clear winner despite a marginally slower hash rate (approx. 4KH/s per GPU).
sr. member
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My specious advice is not specious. Its fact. Thanks tho
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Lowering your intensity on any pool would drop your rejects.

I believe this to be specious advice, though I cannot with absolute certainty claim otherwise.  Read this, investigate further, and then decide for yourself.

Intensity is used to spawn GPU threads as a simple 2^value setting.
  I:13 =    8192 threads
  I:15 =   32768 threads
  I:17 =  131072 threads
  I:18 =  262144 threads
  I:19 =  524288 threads
  I:20 = 1048576 threads
Notice how the higher settings increase thread count tremendously.

In short, if raising intensity increases your rejects my x%, but it simultaneously increases your hashpower by more than x%, then you're better off despite the rejects.  And there are other causes for rejects too, outside of your control.  As such, you have to expand your time horizon before jumping to any conclusions.
sr. member
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Lowering your intensity on any pool would drop your rejects.
legendary
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Where is the server located? I'm US west, and I'm getting a huge 230ms ping.

HOWEVER, despite this huge ping times, my rejected is less than 2%, whereas middlecoin gives me 6% rejected with only 65ms ping.

Lastly, does lowering the mining intensity from 20 to 18 on a card like the r9 290 reduce the rejected percentage? I know doing this on Middlecoin has huge benefits, so I'd like some confirmation on wafflepool as well.
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Sorry guys, was on an 11 hour flight.

Servers have been restarted, as well as the switcher.  I'll be looking into exactly what caused it in a bit here (need a nap), and will be getting more watchdog processes up to try to stop this from happening again (thought we had them working, apparently not).
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So sad that wafflepool seems to be mining mincoin at the moment although it is not even in the top ten of profitable coins...

You cant really trust that list, but yes, mincoin is low. But i see 42 as higher then doge

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency
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Looks like we switched to doge...

Some are, one of my miner is on a coin with diff 410K
sr. member
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So sad that wafflepool seems to be mining mincoin at the moment although it is not even in the top ten of profitable coins...
newbie
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Looks like we switched to doge...
sr. member
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📱 Electroneum 📱 cryptocurrency
Well, don't panic, guys. Poolwaffle should soon wake up and make things right.
newbie
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Just like a couple of days ago, people can't connect and it would appear the switcher has locked up on mincoin all night.
sr. member
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cant connect...nothing to see here move along
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