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April 28, 2017, 04:42:16 AM
#44
Ripple is not a cryptocurrency. It's some sort of bank coin. So I don't get why it is even on CMC - might as well put paypal there.
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April 28, 2017, 03:15:16 AM
#43
It seems you're confirming that my statement that the wording of this article suggests it has nothing to do with the public XRP is likely accurate. I do understand the necessity of privacy utilizing an ILP. How does ripple view these types of threads that use misleading news articles to pump the public chain?
I don't agree with your premise for the reasons that I explained. That FI's can make their payments off ledger and still have them be bridged by XRP when that's to their advantage is a plus, not a minus. If it's misleading not to mention this, it's only because it understates the value proposition. The only way it would be misleading is if anyone said or implied that these payments were being bridged by XRP today. If you see anyone doing that, I will loudly condemn it.

I'll just accept that you don't understand the purpose of this thread then.
A friendly advice: it's you who should get a clue.
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April 25, 2017, 01:39:17 AM
#42
I'll just accept that you don't understand the purpose of this thread then.
Or you are seeing what you want to see and not what's there.

But I think you're missing the big picture entirely. Maybe you assume that other people see things through the same lens you do, but that may not be the case. Maybe others understand that the obstacle to getting FI's to use blockchains is not the blockchain but it's everything else. It's integration, compliance, regulatory, business rules, and so on. These are all the things Ripple has been doing and announcing.

On the blockchain side, you need low cost, high speed, and good volume. All areas in which RCL beats Bitcoin. If you're going to use a crypto-currency, it has to have good liquidity. XRP does not check that box yet. But the bigger problem, as I explained upthread, is everything else. And every bank that uses Ripple's software for live payments has the everything else.
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April 24, 2017, 07:12:55 PM
#41
It seems you're confirming that my statement that the wording of this article suggests it has nothing to do with the public XRP is likely accurate. I do understand the necessity of privacy utilizing an ILP. How does ripple view these types of threads that use misleading news articles to pump the public chain?
I don't agree with your premise for the reasons that I explained. That FI's can make their payments off ledger and still have them be bridged by XRP when that's to their advantage is a plus, not a minus. If it's misleading not to mention this, it's only because it understates the value proposition. The only way it would be misleading is if anyone said or implied that these payments were being bridged by XRP today. If you see anyone doing that, I will loudly condemn it.

I'll just accept that you don't understand the purpose of this thread then.
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April 24, 2017, 06:10:58 PM
#40
Seems like very good news for ripple.

Also explains the price hike from a few weeks ago.

Ripple is one of the altcoins that always goes against the general trend bitcoin is headed at. So when bitcoin is down, ripple generally goes up quite a lot. When bitcoin is up, ripple is usually down in fiat terms.
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April 24, 2017, 06:07:12 PM
#39
It seems you're confirming that my statement that the wording of this article suggests it has nothing to do with the public XRP is likely accurate. I do understand the necessity of privacy utilizing an ILP. How does ripple view these types of threads that use misleading news articles to pump the public chain?
I don't agree with your premise for the reasons that I explained. That FI's can make their payments off ledger and still have them be bridged by XRP when that's to their advantage is a plus, not a minus. If it's misleading not to mention this, it's only because it understates the value proposition. The only way it would be misleading is if anyone said or implied that these payments were being bridged by XRP today. If you see anyone doing that, I will loudly condemn it.
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April 24, 2017, 05:43:10 PM
#38
What concerns me about these types of articles is they often specifically go out of their way not to mention if it involves a private blockchain or something that is publically available. Ethereum has been using that type of deception where many of the articles turn out to be referencing a private chain; but, the announcement is used to pump the public chain. The wording of this article suggests to me that it has nothing to do with the public XRP.

It's unfortunate that this type of deception has become commonplace.
We've been pretty clear that our strategy is to eliminate obstacles to payments being bridged with XRP. The obstacles are eliminated whether the payment takes place on the public ledger or off it.

It's precisely the same situation with bitcoin. People using colored coins on ledger don't really help the value of bitcoins much. But companies exchanging bitcoins, even off ledger, do.

Really the location of the payment doesn't much matter.

We spent several years trying to convince FIs to make transactions on a public ledger. We had some success, but the requirement to use a single, public ledger brought huge downsides. It reduces privacy. It limits throughput. And it means everyone has to transact by the exact same, inflexible rules even though people really do want different things.

It is way, way better to have the option to use a public blockchain where its benefits make sense and avoid it where they don't.

So we changed our approach. Now, we have a software product that takes care of everything that has to happen around a payment. The actual payment itself can take place on a public ledger or it can take place using ILP. FIs seem to like this approach a lot. The objections to being forced to hold a crypto-currency, forced to transact in public, forced to rely on third parties whose performance can't be guaranteed, and so on are lifted. Now, if XRP can bridge that payment, there's no technical obstacle.

The beauty is that banks can use this system even if XRP can't bridge a single payment. And then, when it can effectively bridge one in a thousand payments, it will. And if it can ever effectively bridge one in a hundred payments, that will happen. It's a path to solve the various chicken and egg problems where nobody will invest in a system that makes using a crypto-currency even possible until there's enough volume/capacity to handle a significant fraction of payments.

Then, we can pick the best corridors and target them, and the payments will flow.


It seems you're confirming that my statement that the wording of this article suggests it has nothing to do with the public XRP is likely accurate. I do understand the necessity of privacy utilizing an ILP. How does ripple view these types of threads that use misleading news articles to pump the public chain?
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April 24, 2017, 04:59:54 PM
#37
What concerns me about these types of articles is they often specifically go out of their way not to mention if it involves a private blockchain or something that is publically available. Ethereum has been using that type of deception where many of the articles turn out to be referencing a private chain; but, the announcement is used to pump the public chain. The wording of this article suggests to me that it has nothing to do with the public XRP.

It's unfortunate that this type of deception has become commonplace.
We've been pretty clear that our strategy is to eliminate obstacles to payments being bridged with XRP. The obstacles are eliminated whether the payment takes place on the public ledger or off it.

It's precisely the same situation with bitcoin. People using colored coins on ledger don't really help the value of bitcoins much. But companies exchanging bitcoins, even off ledger, do.

Really the location of the payment doesn't much matter.

We spent several years trying to convince FIs to make transactions on a public ledger. We had some success, but the requirement to use a single, public ledger brought huge downsides. It reduces privacy. It limits throughput. And it means everyone has to transact by the exact same, inflexible rules even though people really do want different things.

It is way, way better to have the option to use a public blockchain where its benefits make sense and avoid it where they don't.

So we changed our approach. Now, we have a software product that takes care of everything that has to happen around a payment. The actual payment itself can take place on a public ledger or it can take place using ILP. FIs seem to like this approach a lot. The objections to being forced to hold a crypto-currency, forced to transact in public, forced to rely on third parties whose performance can't be guaranteed, and so on are lifted. Now, if XRP can bridge that payment, there's no technical obstacle.

The beauty is that banks can use this system even if XRP can't bridge a single payment. And then, when it can effectively bridge one in a thousand payments, it will. And if it can ever effectively bridge one in a hundred payments, that will happen. It's a path to solve the various chicken and egg problems where nobody will invest in a system that makes using a crypto-currency even possible until there's enough volume/capacity to handle a significant fraction of payments.

Then, we can pick the best corridors and target them, and the payments will flow.
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April 03, 2017, 10:19:11 AM
#36
What concerns me about these types of articles is they often specifically go out of their way not to mention if it involves a private blockchain or something that is publically available. Ethereum has been using that type of deception where many of the articles turn out to be referencing a private chain; but, the announcement is used to pump the public chain. The wording of this article suggests to me that it has nothing to do with the public XRP.

It's unfortunate that this type of deception has become commonplace.

Yes, Ripple is the latest coin to find flavour with the pumpers and dumpers.
The rally seems to be amazing, but it is best to stay away.

 think this is a pump and dump would discount years of testing, development and piloting by a many number of banks from Japan to England.

The surge in price appears to be attributed to a number of catalysts including those mentioned in the links posted on this thread.
 
Here are some recent factors which are influencing the price :

However, Ripple has also announced new features meant for “bringing the Internet of Value to life”, which could have positively affected its image with investors.

The Ripple Consensus Ledger (RCL) and Interledger Protocol (ILP) can now communicate with each other, which the developers say is creating a network that can interconnect all the world’s value on ledgers.

The two new features Escrow and Payment Channels, which help to increase the performance and scalability of RCL, became active for all users on Friday. Escrow allows RCL and ILP to communicate to secure XRP for an allotted amount of time or until certain conditions are met.

The new features allow companies to adopt RCL and ILP, and those using the technology will receive the benefits of XRP, providing them with a faster, cheaper experience for cross-border payments.

The developer adds that unlike other systems (alluding to the bitcoin blockchain) which can’t handle many transactions, Ripple’s payments network can now operate at volumes previously seen only by Visa.

http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/trading/ripple-market-cap-well-1-5-billion-xrp-doubles-price/
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April 02, 2017, 06:59:16 PM
#35
What concerns me about these types of articles is they often specifically go out of their way not to mention if it involves a private blockchain or something that is publically available. Ethereum has been using that type of deception where many of the articles turn out to be referencing a private chain; but, the announcement is used to pump the public chain. The wording of this article suggests to me that it has nothing to do with the public XRP.

It's unfortunate that this type of deception has become commonplace.

Yes, Ripple is the latest coin to find flavour with the pumpers and dumpers.
The rally seems to be amazing, but it is best to stay away.
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April 02, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
#34
I am following XPR a little as well

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...While the recent surge in XRP is certainly influenced by Bitcoin's scalability issues, much of the recent momentum is due to the announcement that MUFG joined Ripple's steering group, GPSG. Unlike other digital assets, XRP has a clear use case and people are beginning to recognize that...

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..., MUFG’s banking arm The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ (BTMU) publicly announced that it is joining Ripple’s Global Payments Steering Group (GPSG)....
https://cointelegraph.com/news/ripple-price-surge-continues-altcoin-takes-advantage-of-bitcoin-scaling-troubles
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April 02, 2017, 05:09:18 PM
#33
Ripple really skyrocket. Why? Any big news for this?
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April 02, 2017, 04:20:22 PM
#32
@Dummsaus I'm not sure I understand you but I agree any IOU has counterparty risk.
XRP is not an IOU it's a digital asset with no counterparty risk (but yes you can also hold IOU on Ripple).

Btw I agree with the Russian guy  Smiley
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April 02, 2017, 03:35:53 PM
#31
No currency is safe from manipulations. We know this is a fact.
The problem with Ripple is the IOU's.
Opening an account, is not always what you have, but also what you could owe.
And who is going to prove that you never owed anything to anyone, but Ripple account says -1.000.000$.
Owed to the Bank of Wickedness.
This would make me think twice before opening any ripple account. Huh

it is a fact, we do not have any BTC successor, worth it yet.
And that is what 2017 is going to be. Roll Eyes
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April 02, 2017, 03:33:29 PM
#30


The banks find Ripple attractive because of their ability to control and track transactions.

I wouldn't worry about the details the coin itself would be valid in both.

Enjoy the rally : )



LOL don't worry about the details. That sure is interesting investment advice.

yeah lol i'm up 400 % and you ? I bet zilch. Regarding not worrying about the details on how the banks plan to implement what does it matter so long as the value goes up and smart investors take profits ?

Good Luck to you on the sidelines.

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April 02, 2017, 02:08:18 PM
#29


The banks find Ripple attractive because of their ability to control and track transactions.

I wouldn't worry about the details the coin itself would be valid in both.

Enjoy the rally : )



LOL don't worry about the details. That sure is interesting investment advice.
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April 02, 2017, 02:03:21 PM
#28


The banks find Ripple attractive because of their ability to control and track transactions.

I wouldn't worry about the details the coin itself would be valid in both.

Enjoy the rally : )

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April 02, 2017, 11:54:22 AM
#27
What concerns me about these types of articles is they often specifically go out of their way not to mention if it involves a private blockchain or something that is publically available. Ethereum has been using that type of deception where many of the articles turn out to be referencing a private chain; but, the announcement is used to pump the public chain. The wording of this article suggests to me that it has nothing to do with the public XRP.

It's unfortunate that this type of deception has become commonplace.
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April 02, 2017, 11:00:38 AM
#26

Looks like the increase in value is only going to continue, with news like this I'm surprised price is low.

Considering the collective of banks involved can easily eat up billions of ripples at this price in no time.


The Bank of England’s FinTech Accelerator announced today that it is conducting a PoC with Ripple to demonstrate cross-border payments and settlement using two different Real Time Gross Settlement (RTGS) systems. This collaboration marks the first instance of a central bank exploring how it can use blockchain technology to enable improved cross-border payments. Ripple’s solution is built around the open and neutral Interledger Protocol and serves to power interoperable payments across different ledgers and networks. The goal of this PoC is to showcase the synchronized movement of two different currencies across two different RTGS systems and how this kind of synchronization might lower settlement risk and improve the speed and efficiency of cross-border payments.

The @bankofengland is the 1st central bank exploring their use of blockchain tech. Proud to join them! Tweet This

Launched in June 2016, the Bank of England’s FinTech Accelerator works in partnership with new technology firms to harness financial technology solutions for central banking institutions. The Accelerator offers technology companies the opportunity to demonstrate their solutions for real challenges facing banks and policymakers. Selection to participate in this PoC is a competitive process, and at the conclusion may be additional opportunities to showcase the results in a case study, or even continue down a path to becoming an ongoing partner of the Bank of England.

Ripple also participated in the Bank’s recent public consultation for the RTGS Strategy Review, an initiative focused on the design of the next generation of RTGS system for the United Kingdom’s central bank.

“Since establishing Ripple’s London office last year, I’ve seen first-hand how eager customers are to understand the transformative potential of Ripple’s solution,” said Danny Aranda, Ripple’s Managing Director of Europe. “We’re proud to have the opportunity to show the Bank of England – and central banks everywhere – how Ripple can help solve key issues associated with cross-border settlements, and we look forward to continuing this relationship.”

For more information about how we are working with the financial services community, please contact us.
 
https://ripple.com/insights/ripple-selected-to-participate-in-the-bank-of-england-fintech-accelerators-exploration-of-the-use-of-blockchain-for-global-rtgs/

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February 05, 2017, 01:28:56 PM
#25
Explain why Noobs on Poloniex (who probably don't have a clue what Ripple is) should buy XRP "tokens".
..relating to this news.

By all means guy.. step up and sell it !  Cheesy
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