Possible Poker Cheaters On Fortunejack - page 2.

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Quote from: Deuceisgood on September 10, 2016, 07:31:02 PM

It is not cheating. I've played on many sites, and have seen some cheating here and there. There are just some very very loose players on FJ. Also if you have an overwhelmingly large stack it can make sense, against the right opponent, to just shove over and over. Because as the largest stack you only have to win once in order to get all the chips. So you are actually ahead when you consider the odds of winning one hand on x6 shoves, even with inferior hands. Or more likely he was just some drunk crazy Argentinian ...

Bottom line, I've found the cash games extremely loose and profitable. And yes, those loose players will have their moments in the sun.

Yes I think this hardly can be accused as cheating. I've done crazy moves when drunk.

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Wow I always wondered if cheating and other dishonest things were possible online. I know people can cheat offline but I never knew about online. Hopefully some sort of moderation system will be implemented towards cheaters.

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It is not cheating. I've played on many sites, and have seen some cheating here and there. There are just some very very loose players on FJ. Also if you have an overwhelmingly large stack it can make sense, against the right opponent, to just shove over and over. Because as the largest stack you only have to win once in order to get all the chips. So you are actually ahead when you consider the odds of winning one hand on x6 shoves, even with inferior hands. Or more likely he was just some drunk crazy Argentinian ...

Bottom line, I've found the cash games extremely loose and profitable. And yes, those loose players will have their moments in the sun.

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I play poker there, and free rolls you talk about arebfull with crazy hands. Small stack, fast going levels and people there go all in almost every hand. For me that is not strange I played to many free tournaments. People always play like that in this kind of tournament's.
Interesting story from there, couple days ago after first all in which I won, next hand again all in and win, third hand I fold, but I would won, 4th I paid and won. 5 didn't pay but would won. 5 hands in a row, I never had similar situation in poker before.

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shoving any 2 pre vs a minimum buy in can't be to far from optimal vs a minimum buy in which i suspect original poster was doing.

post the actual had histories so we can judge properly. otherwise it's just hearsay

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That's poker! A lot of newbies going all-in with nothing, it's really good for you in a long term Wink

How many hands they won? Fortunejack have any handshistory is something like that? If yes, can you post to us?

Sorry but it sounds like bs for me...

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I used to play poker there at Fortunejack a long time ago. I started with 20 mBTC and ended up after a few hours with more than 500 mBTC and this was because other people thought they were smart while I were extremely patient and I only used to go all in when I was sure 100%. No one back then said possible cheaters on FortuneJack. What I can advise to you is just like some person here have already done so, don't go all in in the moment you see you have 2 really good cards in the beginning, I need to see all the 5 or at least 3 cards down before I make my decisions.

Although everything is possible and you have the benefit of doubt from me but I think odds of such things happening are low.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on September 10, 2016, 11:23:29 AM

Maybe is this some computer automated player, not human being. Maybe is some security breach and someone malware is beeing planted. There could be a lot explanations.

i think if there is really a cheating going on, then it is the first one.
there must be a bot in the background posing as a human and playing aginst you and most probably it is the house itself because a hack would be caought soon but the hosue can do it forever and has access to all the hands.

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Quote from: marketorder on September 10, 2016, 12:06:17 AM

I think they use the same software as SWCpoker it looks very similar

Quote from: Xiaoxiao on September 10, 2016, 12:05:17 AM

What poker network and software is Fortunejack?

They have partnership with Argentina poker room http://www.pokerazul.com/

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Maybe is this some computer automated player, not human being. Maybe is some security breach and someone malware is beeing planted. There could be a lot explanations.

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the sample is too small to accuse fortunejack of cheating,one should collect more data before saying fortunejack cheats in poker,imho
also whenever I lose at a casino to a rare run I think i'm getting scammed

it is only human psychology,poker sites are accused of cheating 24/7 there is nothing new in it.
But it is good that someone started to notice suspicious behavior because it serves multiple purposes:raises public awareness,forces the company itself have a closer
look at a potential security breach,cheaters could lay down low etc.

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I dont agree with you as i am also a user in fortunejack and i have also won so many times with a shitty cards and opp player got a very high rack cards like AA, even then he lost it, but that doesn't mean that i am a cheater , it is due to that i was loosing for a long time and it was my turn to win and won it. Even i have also won very high bankroll in fortunejack , i invested 20mbtc and withing 2 hours i am having 200 mbtc then what will you tell that i am cheater. If you are playing poker from long in online then you wont be telling this, because the software is designed that everyone wins in a call it is upto the player to play on that cards.

I am a regular player in fortunejack and till now i have not faced any problem. and even what you are telling is i have seen but that is possible due to the losing streak which you have not recorded it you calculation. If you deeply calculate the way it is working you will also be winner in online poker.

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nice catch.

this is why i never liked online Poker, you can never tell. if the opponent is cheating or not and i am not talking about this particular situation but in general, the feeling of being cheated an not being able to do anything except leave is the worst thing that made me leave online poker.

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Quote from: marketorder on September 10, 2016, 01:06:00 AM

I was examining all of his plays where I wasn't playing him and it was very suspicious. I left for 30 mins I come back to see what he was doing and he's the chip leader with over 121 mbtc and he started with almost nothing. If he was just a random reckless newb he would end up blowing his stack not constantly winning almost all hands with no logic or reason in his gameplay

Quote from: yahoo62278 on September 10, 2016, 12:39:09 AM

Im pretty sure youre wrong here. Im not defending fortunejack by no means but just because you may have had 2 better starting cards in a hand and called an all in preflop it doesnt mean you should win the hand. Most likely you both have live cards and that player just hit his. Its like a 60/40 game preflop if this is the case.

Just my opinion but no reason to call scam because you lost. If youre gonna get butturt you prob shouldnt play poker at all.

Theres a possibility youre telling the truth and its rigged sure, but the odds are pretty low

Did you check how he can win 121mbtc? if not maybe he was lucky get nice card to win in some games. long time ago i have play poker start with nothing it's mean i start as a player with the least amount of capital then i win in some games and have greater funds than the entire cast.

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In as much as I will want to give credit for your observation and also because of what you witnessed to have created this thread, I will say let's wait for the response of fortune jack, although they will deny it but one thing I know is if its true, since you noticed it someone else will do too or have noticed it too and it won't go on for long... My opinion though...

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I was examining all of his plays where I wasn't playing him and it was very suspicious. I left for 30 mins I come back to see what he was doing and he's the chip leader with over 121 mbtc and he started with almost nothing. If he was just a random reckless newb he would end up blowing his stack not constantly winning almost all hands with no logic or reason in his gameplay

Quote from: yahoo62278 on September 10, 2016, 12:39:09 AM

Im pretty sure youre wrong here. Im not defending fortunejack by no means but just because you may have had 2 better starting cards in a hand and called an all in preflop it doesnt mean you should win the hand. Most likely you both have live cards and that player just hit his. Its like a 60/40 game preflop if this is the case.

Just my opinion but no reason to call scam because you lost. If youre gonna get butturt you prob shouldnt play poker at all.

Theres a possibility youre telling the truth and its rigged sure, but the odds are pretty low

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Im pretty sure youre wrong here. Im not defending fortunejack by no means but just because you may have had 2 better starting cards in a hand and called an all in preflop it doesnt mean you should win the hand. Most likely you both have live cards and that player just hit his. Its like a 60/40 game preflop if this is the case.

Just my opinion but no reason to call scam because you lost. If youre gonna get butturt you prob shouldnt play poker at all.

Theres a possibility youre telling the truth and its rigged sure, but the odds are pretty low

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Thanks a lot for the warning. Let us know if they reply.

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So staff members are payed to cheat?

Quote from: ImHash on September 10, 2016, 12:09:35 AM

Well seems like you just caught them in action, nice to see sharp people around.
I can tell you that they are literally the admins of the site or hired staff just to do the things you described.
Of course they are not going to give away their money in a fair game.

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Well seems like you just caught them in action, nice to see sharp people around.
I can tell you that they are literally the admins of the site or hired staff just to do the things you described.
Of course they are not going to give away their money in a fair game.

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