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newbie
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July 29, 2013, 02:32:01 AM
#39
Unfortunately also had some bad experience with EuropeanMiner.

Bought some USB Miners off him. Bitcoins transferrered to his payment address 198VFGQSGFfE6Dnb1WoUFhzAHqNUu4JTgi - my 28BTC are still there.
Unfortunately all done and completed before other people starting raising doubts here, would have thought twice...
Never got a proof of posting or tracking number. Highly doubt that the miners will ever arrive here.
Also no refund of the payment. No reaction any more to any of my messages.

Will file an official police report - since the SEC is finally moving on pirate, I have some faith left in the legal system.

EuropeanMiner - make this right, refund my money!!
legendary
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July 19, 2013, 09:38:36 PM
#38
Its pretty easy to buy accounts and pose as the actual buyers.

update..

Now the cops are after him. Grin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2757777

HT xD
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
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July 19, 2013, 08:34:55 PM
#37
Why would he do it now ?
He has all the time he wants, now. And if he waits 2 years, maybe this will has been forgotten by the internet and he gets away with it. Or so he beleives.
full member
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July 19, 2013, 08:25:40 PM
#36
So I submitted .1 btc for the "Eruptor Raffle" to the address 12NWcBQyjW3UXVc4jKY5Rt85fAeQSifQqq

The odd thing is that if it was a scam, he would have surely cleared out the address after pruning all his posts, right?
Or is .4 BTC not enough to be worth the cost of laundering it?
newbie
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July 19, 2013, 08:54:42 AM
#35
@crumbs

Yeah, a lot can be said about photo. Like I said I dont want to share in public too much.

The size of the plug:  there is also a size of the USB miner, it doesnt scale right relative to the size
of the A4 size of the paper. This can check anybody with a miner in hand. The dimension of one miner is aprox. 25 x 57 mm.

r

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July 19, 2013, 08:40:42 AM
#34
Sorry for necroing this thread, but the shop is just curious enough to talk about.  It's not an obvious fake, but it ain't easy on the eyes, everything about it just screams "overlay!1!"

The first impression is wtf?  The miners are ideally laid out for shopping:  ~parallel to each other, so no fancy shading would be needed if shadows were cast, which they're not.  Shot from nearly perfect 12 o'clock -- no worries about 3D stuff like perspective & parallax.  
Shit cellphone cam (duh), though the EXIF data's stripped.
Why the the note?  The paper is ~flat, so any handwriting can be overlaid without worrying about shading & distortion introduced by "crumples."  The miners don't overlap the paper, so it may as well be posted in a separate shot Smiley  
The thumb drive seems to cast a shadow toward 10 o'clock, but could be anything -- motion blur, lens distortion, phone cam software trying to compensate -- but if it's a shadow, why none from the miners?
@route:  What looks like USB plug size discrepancy could be simply perspective -- if the lens is ~above the thumb drive & ~4 feet up, the scaling would make sense.
There's another detail -- in the bottom row of miners, the miner in the right-hand corner (the one with one of the screw holes barely visible) seems to be identical to the second miner from the left, same row.  The shading/reflection on the the USB plugs is close enough to say "same."  I made a 2-frame overlay gif (cropped from your pic -- aligned on the usb connector).


So, not 100%, not proof, but sure backs up my first impression. Smiley
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July 19, 2013, 06:41:52 AM
#33
i can photoshop better
newbie
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July 19, 2013, 06:38:16 AM
#32
Ps: I think he's good with photoshop.

oh yes. his miner-pic looked fake, though, but was really good. maybe even a render

I dont think he is good with photoshop or anything. Just examine the photo of 60 miners "on his table".

Only by comparing the USB plug width one can see there is some 20-30 % difference.

There are a lot of small details he forgot to pay attention to, I dont want to share them with public, because
there is a criminal and forensic investigation by authorities ongoing . Also, I dont want him (or any scammer)
to become better in his criminal activity.

http://klub.homemade.net/euminer/euminer60.png


Beware everybody, he is probably using different usernames here on bitcointalk and will continue
to scam.


r



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July 18, 2013, 10:50:42 AM
#31
Ps: I think he's good with photoshop.

oh yes. his miner-pic looked fake, though, but was really good. maybe even a render
legendary
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July 18, 2013, 10:46:04 AM
#30
it's fake, How did he scanned 2 sides of slip in single image.
scanning both sides and combining with photoshop?

Or by just taking 2 slips and doing scan Cheesy

anyways i took a screenshot of his raffle thread yesterday.

https://i.imgur.com/7ZNkxbj.png

Ps: I think he's good with photoshop.
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July 18, 2013, 10:42:40 AM
#29
it's fake, How did he scanned 2 sides of slip in single image.
scanning both sides and combining with photoshop?
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July 18, 2013, 10:41:43 AM
#28
its the plugs that really making my eyes squint..
yeah, thas really grinding my gears to... the erosion on them is all the same

OP, there is a ultimate proof you can do: arrange them to form a BTCGrin
(and make a short video panning over them - only a true cgi master could fake that)

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I'm willing to buy 1 (one) unit and pay in BTC
As i made enough profit last week i can risk that
But you would need to provide tracked, insured shipping.

Then i will report here, give you Trust and order more Wink

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i will withhold a opinion until we hear back from lenny_ who is waiting for delivery

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i didnt bought at him, so actually, i should not care
but i hate to judge people without really final facts

legendary
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July 18, 2013, 10:40:31 AM
#27
I dont know if this address is real, but he sent me this picture:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2akfuxs&s=5

it's fake, How did he scanned 2 sides of slip in single image.
hero member
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July 18, 2013, 10:39:00 AM
#26
He also changed his signature and profile picture.
hero member
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July 18, 2013, 10:35:58 AM
#25
Well I'm glad I was able to alert those in the gambling section. I commented letting people know to read the OP and check his other posts to and see he deleted them all.
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July 18, 2013, 10:25:24 AM
#24
I dont know if this address is real, but he sent me this picture:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2akfuxs&s=5

I tried to enhance the backside of the paper, but it seems there never was real text...
http://imgup.ru/image-z2lx919201818.html
sr. member
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July 18, 2013, 09:51:03 AM
#23
He now pruned all his threads ever made. i dont get it

He knew that he don't have chance to scam more peoples so he decided to leave with the money he got till now.
hero member
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July 18, 2013, 09:47:02 AM
#22
He now pruned all his threads ever made. i dont get it
hero member
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July 18, 2013, 09:30:32 AM
#21
I've removed my negative rep for him as I believe he's not so much a scammer as he is a shirt tempered seller who lacks experience. This should not be taken as an endorsement, and buyers are still urged to use escrow.
Wrong.
hero member
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July 18, 2013, 08:00:52 AM
#20
I've removed my negative rep for him as I believe he's not so much a scammer as he is a shirt tempered seller who lacks experience.
my tummy says, he never had more stock than maybe ~6 usb miners - those look like copied to 10 rows in his pic
if not scammer then he tries to presell units he does not have and then order them based on demand...
Also he sent me this.

What a charming fellow.
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