Topic: Post Reporting Being Used As A Form Of Censorship (Read 1604 times)

You couldn't upset me if you tried TwattySqueal. You are simply too dense to realize what I am actually talking about.

I didn't mean to trigger or offend you TECSHARE.  

It was really fucked up of me to make a porn joke in your very serious thread about post reporting being used as a form of censorship on bitcointalk.org

I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, apologize.

Ah nutildah https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nutildah-willing-to-facilitate-scammers-for-around-300bucks-deleting-evidence-5190369. Fancy seeing you here with suchmoon.

If I may interject and bring my own observations which are independently verifiable on this subject.

There is little doubt that post reporting has previously been used very successfully to censor or delete on topic and highly important relevant information to maintain and protect a narrative that certain " reporters" seek to portray as true or solid. When in reality it is bogus self serving garbage.

I have witnessed 2 members both create " please ban threads for each other"

One created by a proven scammer, self confessed trust abuser who was also strongly implicated in an extortion attempt. The thread he created was based upon debunked lies and groundless speculation.  The grounds for his ban request were laughable.
This thread was permitted to remain.

The other was created by a blemish free member that specifically detailed independently verifiable evidence of scamming, self confessed trust abuse, highly probable extortion attempt among other general scammer supporting etc

Next thing that thread was deleted without a trace?...whilst the other remained??

One of the very most heinous and viscous miscarriages of justice I have witnessed.

That is the tip of the iceberg.

I have seen threads meandering way way from the core points of the OP. Then when a member posted unpopular but verifiable truths directly related to the OP that was reported and deleted. When the member asked why some said it was reported for derailing from the current flow. Ha but if you join in with off topic that would then be deleted for off topic. Lose lose hey.

The worst is the weaponization of deleted posts. I have witnessed a super contributor receive a public ban warning from theymos based on the easily manipulated, gamed and misleading metric of deleted posts / specific time frame.  About 1 hour after I witnessed him be told that any further deletes could result in a ban.  Then someone reported every two word  or 3 word post he had made in the last 7 years so he got another I believe 30 deletes within 10 mins. Pure coincidence you say?

I have seen a post regarding trolling. One member ( a confirmed and busted greedy racist troll sock puppet sig spammer caught red handed) claims another member who had never had a single point in any of his posts debunked was a troll. When the accused responded with a simple link to the confirmed trolls past red handed busting and asked to see the evidence of his own trolling...his post was deleted.
When he asked why he was told off topic lol. Disgraceful. The confirmed troll admitted he reported it haha. He was permitted to go on discussing the imaginary trolling of the non troll that simple provided evidence and requested proof of the confirmed trolls accusations.
This is clearly wrong.

There should be transparency to who reported the post and which mod deleted the post.
This should be certainly made transparent where it is clear one member or a couple of members are targeting specifically one persons posts and where one moderator is consistently taking inappropriate action.  That would need to be decided upon investigation after prolonged and targeted attacks.  

I will say recently I believe there has been a vast improvement on the moderation here.
If you post on topic relevant posts generally they will remain. This is for meta. I can not say for other boards.
Reputation had always been reasonably fair. Of course on the politics board this may be different but I dont have time for all of that.

I think some mods prefer to smooth things over. So if disruptive truths appear on a thread even if they are clearly relevant and on topic they will reason the thread is being smashed to pieces. The popular narrative was facilitating a nice polite backslapping pal party each regurgitating misleading or false nonsense that suits them. Then the party pooper arrives and injects the unpopular truth that turns the nice friendly thread into a war zone full of casualties apart from the party pooper who is unscathed shielded by the truth.
The mods says to himself - oh that was all so nice and pleasant and friendly and now that horrible bastard that always has to ruin things with the truth is here. I think deleting his disruptive posts is the sensible way forward. Wish I could ban these disruptive truth injecting assholes.

I understand that " atmosphere " is important and so is tone.  There is to me though nothing more important than highly relevant and important truth. There is no point having a forum full of bogus self serving misleading garbage.  If the truth is unpopular to such large proportion of any sub board that they want the truth censored then that board needs quarantine and serious social distancing.

It is different if the person is spouting off unsubstantiated or observably false and incorrect nonsense that is hugely disruptive. However it should be no problem to debunk their arguments on thread without crying for mods unless they do not respond to reason after their points have been conclusively debunked.

It is silly to dispute the claims in the OP.
But I think things are greatly improving on meta. We will see long term.

I think mods probably do have a difficult job. I mean their prime directive should really be assuring members are able to efficiently obtain the truth. On the other hand they can't have a total war zone.
Perhaps punishing those promugating misleading bogus nonsense and spouting off clear double standards is more useful than punishing those that present highly relevant but disruptive truths. Eventually the truth will not be disruptive because it will be the part of the popular narrative,  and bogus false and misleading garbage will be the disruptive and contentious posts. WIN WIN you get to allow members efficient access to the truth and delete dishonest trolls and liars nonsense. Just takes time to reverse such a dire state.

Again, it's your own problem that you can't handle political AND other disagreements but I feel that I'm repeating myself. I can't fix your reading comprehension or your inability to consider more than one thing at once, sorry.


So what would have been the acceptable course of action then? Should users refrain from addressing you in any way if they happen to disagree with you somewhere? That'd be fucking weird.

No, a direct response to your assertion...


First its my political views, then when that doesn't work you shift back to the rest of the forum. This is your constant response any time you can't muster an actual logical retort. Just keep driving those goal posts around the ball and keep telling us how many points you scored.

Also, nice non-sequitur there designed to draw attention away from the fact that Nutilduhh suddenly became interested in my forum activities outside of P&S within hours of reading a thread with a contentious partisan divide that upset him. This is the cancel culture, by an means necessary kind of attacks losers with no argument make when they only have emotions to argue with instead of logic. You three are the same types of people who read a joke that offends them on Twatter and dox the poster, harass their family, and call their employer making up shit until they get fired. People with an actual logical retort aren't so pathological about their impotence when failing to present a logical argument and are satisfied with a debate.  Limp dicks like you three need to take the battle outside the realm of debate, because you can't manage to present a meaningful one.

As far as strawpeople go - kinda meh, you've done better ones. Cunt or not, it's not really my fault that you're unable to conduct yourself as a sane person in discussions, political or not.


Holy shit, six hours, what was he thinking.

Just to make sure, what's the acceptable time interval to reply to you when you start a thread?

Once again, you are seeking to conflate my political views being challenged with discussions on the rest of the forum one way when it suits you, and the other way when it doesn't. This is why I treat you like the disingenuous vindictive cunt you are.





There are no "exposed nipples", no "exposed genitals"  in the censored version, and even the original image never even had a fucking anus, and there were no exposed nipples as the figure is clearly wearing clothing. The "nipples" are black dots for fuck sake.

You are literally now just inventing shit to make excuses for your censorship and being facilitated by one or more moderators. The hilarious part about all of this is you are arguably one of the biggest degenerates on this forum, and the idea that you would find such things offensive is asinine on its face. Again, this is about you idiots operating in a unified block as demonstrated very clearly here with your clown swarm in a constant attempt to silence anyone who criticizes anyone in your clown clan by any means necessary. In this case with the pretext of "enforcing the rules".

https://i.imgur.com/5iYD6dG.png Original version

https://i.imgur.com/yd8vf2A.png Censored version

Please circle the anus, or exposed nipples in either version here, or the exposed genitals in the censored version.








Right, just a total coincidence 6 hours after I posted the OP about a very contentious partisan issue, you started engaging me in Meta. You posted in the thread, proving you not only were aware of it, who started the op, but also objected to it. Who you replied to in it is irrelevant.

There are still partially exposed nipples, genitals, and anuses. Why would you think even for a moment that your literally half-arsed censorship actually solved anything?

Actually you do have major issues with anything that isn't 100% to your liking, as documented in your multiple threads about posts being deleted, posts not being deleted, people trusting other people, people not trusting other people, you name it. Even in this case I merely pointed out a rule that was the likely reason for your post being deleted and you still found a way for that to be a very bad thing.

Lighten up cupcake. Not everyone is out to get you.

Yes, I am sure it was a total coincidence you started your obsession hours after I made that post in P&S as I documented in the link. Cry some more about 10 pixel wide (true to scale) cartoon wieners.




Ah yes, the classic Suchgoon, NO U response. I have zero issues with having my views challenged, if I did I wouldn't be so active in P&S now would I? Furthermore you and several of your floppy shoe clan are so obsessed with me because of my views, you compulsively take your battles outside of P&S and use any venue possible to fight your little cancel culture games at any opportunity. Just accusing me of everything you and your friends are guilty of doesn't make me a little bitch like you and your comrades who are so upset by having their ideas challenged you can't resist any opportunity to exact retribution for daring to intrude on your comfortable little bubble of bias. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.


By the way can any of you slackjaws point out exactly what is NSFW with the last image I posted?

LOL

This is probably the wrong place for you if you're so sensitive about your political views being opposed. Remember the whole free speech thing? Yeah... bad news bud - other people can do the freespeaching too, and even worse news - free speech doesn't mean that forum rules don't apply to it or that others must like your speech or even listen to it.

Ever wondered why you're mostly talking to yourself in your REEEEEE threads? Maybe not. Maybe that's how you think the forum should work.

That really hits home hard from some one who couldn't handle opposing political views and manifested an obsession with me that bled into all of the other workings of the forum I am involved in.

Tell me some more about how this is supposed to protect people at work. This isn't about protecting people at work. This isn't about the rules. This is about how you can use the rules to as a tool to antagonize people who say things you don't like and have it removed. You are a petty little totalitarian and so is the mod who enables you.

I know you have a hard time understanding how censorship works, so let me help you out by explaining that it works better when you actually cover everyone's nipples and anogenital regions completely. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get it right eventually.

Weird... this one got reported and removed in spite of being censored... Funny how that works.

https://i.imgur.com/yd8vf2A.png

We can handle jokes just fine. You just have to post said jokes in accordance with the rules, as I explained earlier. Don't make me post my own dick drawings just to prove it can be done. (Not that it would prove anything in your mind, since I'm sure you'll attribute my ability to get away with posting dick drawings to some sort of moderation conspiracy rather than my compliance with the rules, but whatever.)

Don't you worry about that. I just think it is pretty pathetic all the dirty little con games you all pull out of your ass because you can't handle a joke.

Oh come on, some of the shit you say is genuinely funny. Don't let the clown car to discourage you from pursuing a career as a comedian. But you might want to switch from dick drawings to something post-middle-school and read the fucking forum rules, how hard can it be...

Why have you wasted a decade of your life here?

You've done nothing but complain.   Any non-mentally-ill person would have moved on long ago.

Let me know when you learn how to count to ten Vod.

So then I'll ask you again - why have you wasted a decade of your life here?  It's because you are a troll.

Yes, because that is the result of selective enforcement, and the whole point of exploiting it. It is indistinguishable from the usual arbitrary and selective enforcement of the rules and facilitating the abuse of the reporting systems as a tool for censorship.

They copy you, and you attack them?

Give it up Techy.

My goal was to be able to enjoy a joke, but your little clown clan's obsession with me pretending as if some one will get in trouble at work for a 10 pixel wide ms paint cartoon penis as an excuse to prevent that joke from being made, quite intentionally. Not because it serves the community, but because it serves you and yours because you are a group angry little twats that can't handle a joke at your expense. The only reason these kind of things don't happen to you is I have better things to spend my time on than following you around looking through your toilet bowl for peanuts that "break the rules".





You don't know what you are talking about in spite of it being right here, but you are perfectly willing to have an opinion. Funny, you are complaining about reports being abused in your own thread simultaneously while dismissing my post. You have become quite the obedient little eunuch ball washer haven't you? Pretty pathetic.

Many major social media sites, such as twitter enforce rules in a specific way so that certain groups of users are affected more than others. I hope this is not a road that bitcointalk is going down.

I haven't reviewed the deleted posts by TECHARE that he posted closely, but I would agree that at least some of them did break the forum rules around NSFW posts. Even though I don't know this to be true, I would even stipulate all of TECHARE's posts violated forum rules. However I would caution against going full Gretchen Whitmer on users, especially if they are objectively speaking making a good faith effort to debate, and engage with other forum members. If someone posts a NSFW image, [ img] it out, so it won't display by default. Off topic rules state that for a post to be on topic, it must be related to the OP of a thread, and some people are very good at making the majority of the post be off topic, and a single sentence at the end be related to the OP -- when this happens, and the off topic portion is responded to, without anything in the response being related to the OP, a topic split should be created.

My goal was to make fun of your theatrical rage against your arch nemesis nutildah but I keep forgetting what a humorless stuck up twit you are. In hindsight it now makes sense that your affliction would lead you to post a dick drawing as a response to "pictures or it didn't happen" so I apologize for pushing you down this path of delinquency. Don't start doing drugs please.

Ever thought some people read the forum at work?

You are such a selfish asshole, Techy.

That is a cutesy way of avoiding admitting your goal was only censorship from the beginning.

The red rectangular dicks make it non-compliant with Bitcointalk's high artistic standards.

I apologize, I wouldn't have asked for pictures if I had known that a simple flippant remark was going to cause you so much stress. You can stop with the pictures now, I'll take your word for it - you're clearly an ass-head expert.

What is the excuse for censorship this time?


https://i.imgur.com/yd8vf2A.png

This is image was SO GRAPHIC it had to be censored for the good of the Bitcointalk userbase.

Lauda is constantly abusing the trust system, and Nutilduuuh is hoping to earn favors by inserting his head up Lauda's ass as far as possible. The picture speaks for itself.