Topic: Post/Thread Writing With AI - For Faster Signature Campaign Rewards - Easy & Fun (Read 367 times)

The issue of AI plagiarized responses is a serious problem not only here on bitcointalk but everywhere and tackling it is becoming a challenge... and trust me there's no straight forward way to stop it. I have seen myself many posts where I can bet those posts are written by AI, because I have interacted with those members and I know how they write (I don't want to name please) but I'm damn sure those posts are not original and not from them.

You are talking about sports discussions I have seen AI written poste in Meta... Meta where everything should be "bitcointalk" + "you", but no... AI is breaking us apart there too.

I don't know how we can stop them... but one this is for sure it's ruing the fun


That's a topic for another day... 1957 vs 2013 c'mon give ChartBuddy a break!!!! But I'm waiting for the day when our ChartBuddy will get an AI upgrade.

Ah, the guy tried to report Badecker and you're saying that he may be his own alt. If that's the case then Badecker is truly someone who loves to gain others attention. I really hope that the OP whoever he is will stop acting like the way he is acting right now because the current setup of the forum is working in the best way to stop spam and it's not worth it to change it. I'll always support the merit system because it really improved the forum and after its implementation many members have improved their posts. The OP's main point in his most posts is to somehow stop the merit system and that's something no good member of the forum will accept.

There is a certain brilliance in his ability to post like a delusional screaming a-hole

I still maintain he may be badecker’s alt. The main difference is badecker stays out of meta for the most part.

I enjoy this guy as he makes it soooo easy to say wtf to oneself.

Joeyp I am in your corner.

Oh a complete and total sidebar I miss my late father-in-law.  His name was Joseph P…

So when I see Joeyp as an op I think about my late great father-in-law.

The AI technology and mostly AI LLM's are getting improved each day and if they continue improving like this then that day isn't far when AI text won't be detected by those AI text detectors. I fear that the condition of forum will be really changed because most of the account farmers will use those AI generated texts and they won't be punished for such spam and instead get rewarded with merits by the reputed members because if AI detectors won't be able to detect such text then it will be impossible for humans to detect them as well.

The AI generators are getting improved at very fast rates and with each iteration they get improved, the worst thing is that the humans really don't have to do much from their side because the AI text generators get trained by CPU+GPU power and most of the cloud services allow AI based firms to use their processing power for the tasks. The worst thing is that we can't do much in order to stop growth of such text generators.


I don't know if OP is AI or not but his actions aren't in favor of the forum. I guess the OP is someone who doesn't like the current merit system of the forum and want to improve his rank in short amount of time. He wants to sooner reach a rank in order to start earning from signature campaigns and that's why he creates such threads in order to get the merits. That's why I guessed about the OP from his actions, I may be wrong about him but whatever he's doing isn't the right way to rank up on this forum.

 The op just knows how to drag negative publicity to his corner. I don't really understand how something like the use of AI to support your writing while in a sig campaign seems like a fun idea. Is it the fact that the CMs will have a lot of work on their plates trying to sweep their campaigns of AI users that he sees as fun or the fact that some users may heed to his advice?
If he's not castigating a laid down rule, he's giving obnoxious suggestions and I begin to wonder how he came up with this. The use of AI is an offence that is great frowned upon here in the forum and to think it would be such a good idea if used in a signature campaign just goes to show how low of an understanding he has, or maybe he's clearly aware but just enjoys being the outlaw.

He is the new and improved badecker this thread topic is spectacularly funny. Or maybe he is ai himself and the first example of AI attempting to take over.

Think about it. A really good AI would realize making this thread could stand a shot at getting support.

It goes without saying that this practice clearly violates forum rules, particularly given our strict policy against plagiarism. Every AI-generated post I've reported has been removed by the moderators. They wouldn't take such action if it weren't a clear breach of the forum's rules and moderation policies.

If the time ever comes when AI-generated posts start becoming the norm on bitcointalk and can't be detected, the forum is fucked.  The existence of sig campaigns/bounties and all of the people desperate or greedy enough to abuse them to make money guarantees that.

I don't know what the hell OP is going on about with shit like this:

Makes me wonder what troll he's an alt of, because nobody could possibly think AI would be a "gift" to this forum if they knew anything at all about its user base and its history of being plagued by shitposters.

AI is more fun and could be a real lifesaver? I'm guessing you weren't drunk when you created the topic.

AI intelligence cannot save a person from stupidity. AI intelligence cannot make someone intelligent because a person's brain is very slow.
AI only creates a high percentage of lies in real terms. Do some research if you don't believe it.
People who rely on AI do not have brains that function to think. People who rely on AI are people who fail to be human.

The thought of using AI to create posts and correct false/spamful realities is completely unjustifiable to me.
Forum activity will be sterile if users don't have stupid thoughts like you. Don't be offended because your age and mine based on the year of account registration are only slightly different.

The difference between me and you in viewing things may be far. You are not ready to be a complete human, while I am very happy to be a human who tries to always use my brain to think about what I can do to improve something without needing AI help. Why? because AI was created by the same type of creature as me, namely humans.

Do you know what I'm thinking?
Read it again and you will find my thoughts.

When you are not contributing anything on your part then what's the fun for posting on a forum? There are many tools to detect such plagiarism even if you try to paraphrase it so it's better to leave all that stuff and be original in your ideas.Just search AI posting related threads you will find few more in meta board only and have a look at them.Doing it in fun manner is good but for earning purposes it's completely waste and you will end up banning your account.

If we don't come down firmly on AI now, eventually there will be automated posting services... Multi-accounting shitposters are too lazy to invent them themselves but they would certainly pay to have something write on their behalf. I'm reminded of the case of Petulino who claims to have paid a "friend" to write posts on his behalf... the only problem is his friend was using AI and slightly tweaking the results to evade the detectors.



I'm willing to bet half the posts written in those cricket and football discussion threads are AI-generated. They seem to be translated from some news source and then run through AI, but I can't exactly prove it.


You can't beat ChartBuddy, phil. He's not just a bot, he's a record wrecking machine.

Man you have a good sense of humor. Hell at the moment I am head to head with buddy for the all time post lead.

and buddy is a mother fucking bot. I say let me have my buddy bot auto post twenty four times while I sleep.  then buddy will never fucking catch me.

Yes, the post in question does appear to be at least AI-assisted.

Hivemoderation.com - 71.7% likely to contain AI
Sapling.ai - 91.2% fake
Copyleaks - "AI Content Detected"

Personally I haven't been reporting many AI-assisted posts written by newbies or accounts not in signature campaigns. I noticed that only sometimes they get deleted. AI posts by accounts in signature campaigns are nearly always deleted. As others have pointed it out, its pretty much cheating, and nobody wants to read them, anyway.


More or less ridiculous than using a purchased account to pipe up in places like Meta?

One thing to remember is that we are in a discussion forum. And discussion forums are used not only to convey information but also to solve problems and create solutions. Discussions feel more lively by involving emotions in them. Meanwhile, AI doesn't even have emotions when they write. They are just like search engines that collect existing data. But they don't provide new solutions. They just put together solutions that already exist. And they copied it and modified it a little bit. Which is sometimes full of mistakes. AI is too rigid. Current AI is still not AI like in the film, which already has artificial intelligence capable of making logical solutions faster than humans. Well that's only in the movies. In fact, the current AI still only feels like a more sophisticated version of a search engine.

Example, a novel is very enjoyable to read because it contains empathy, emotion and all the feelings that the author pours into the story he creates in the novel. So that when we read it, we can even be immersed in the same feelings felt by the author of the story.
Try asking AI to make a story, for example, only 10 pages. I'm sure we won't even want to finish 1 page. Because they can't write something that contains emotional elements. Their writing is neither lively nor emotionally appealing. So what's so good about writing with AI?
For me, AI is currently only useful in assisting in gathering existing information.

So far, if you leave a source of content, you will not be banned because you don't plagiarize anything.

But if you overdo with many zero-value posts by copy & paste from many websites or AI, you will get another problem and your account can be banned too. An account with many deleted posts can get a temporary ban by shit posting and getting four temporary bans will cause you a permanent ban.

As a normal user, who need to use AI to create content for a post in Bitcointalk?

I agree that AI-generated content can be abused by like you discussed here, a source can help to avoid plagiarism.

I'm not supporting AI, but I still stand using AI isn't against forum rules except you can bring the proof where the moderator said using AI will get banned.

I think AI usage is already big, AI Spam Report Reference Thread created since June 16 and now there are 13 pages, while Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed post from June 16 - now only contain 9 pages (156-164), so it means AI usage surpassed plagiarized content.

Your example aren't appropriate, he's a newbie and can't join signature campaign, while you're discuss about signature campaign.

A forum has rules against spam and plagiarism.

Using AI-generated content is not much different from plagiarism and I believe it is against forum rules. If this AI-generated content abuse becomes bigger, the forum rules topic will be updated with new guide about AI-generated content.

I am sure forum community are all against your dumb idea because forum is not a boring place to milk shit posters who even automate their posting 'works' with AI support.

If you have questions about AI-generated content or want to make it acceptable by rules, ask in Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ.

The big money, which was once on the Internet, and in Bitcoin, is today moving to AI, but if the OP expects to make money with it he has to do it outside of this forum. Here the verdict is in. Outside of here there are plenty of projects and possibilities with AI.

I think he’s just a troll. All his topics always lean towards signature campaigns or advertising, it must really hurt that he isn’t in a campaign yet. If and when he becomes full members and wears an avatar, I will not be surprised if he suggests a union for signature participants to demand for higher pay. There is no substance whatsoever to his topics, and he seems to be a making a lot of those. Luckily for him, he cannot get banned for posting nonsense….ignoring his posts will have to do for now.

OP, to make you understand how the forum members kick against AI posts. Can you make a new post using artificial intelligence(AI)? Let's see how it turns out for you and your account.

After that, I hope you'll completely get why it's not a smart idea to consider creating a post with AI in the btt forum.

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I'm hoping to see you do it soon. whether you are to enjoy the result that comes after posting with AI. Since you want easy and modern ways of posting in the forum

He is just out of his mind. I really don't like people with this kind of attitude. Just look at some of his self-created topics. Absolutely ridiculous. Like making the merit system like some kind of casino where you spin wheels and earn merits. Another topic where he says the merit system is useless, because some legendary members posted fake news. What does the merit system have to do with legendary members or fake news? If that member really posted fake news, that's his problem, not the merit system. Why blame the whole merit system? You will find similar useless topics like these.

OP, try to look at the positive side. Try to be a helpful person for the community. What you suggested not only brings harm to the forum but also encourages spam. I hope you realize that. I am not your enemy; shitposters and spammers are. They make this beautiful forum a sh*t place.

Dumb idea. OP was already on my ignore list, and now on my mobile ignore too. The entire purpose of a forum seems lost on him. Hint: it's not signature campaigns!

I strongly disagree. Forums should be about real conversations between real people. Thats when you get the good discussion, not from some AI trying to sound like a real person. Besides that, AI could clutter everything up with pointless or spammy posts, making it harder to find good and relevant info. So I do not think having AI write posts is a good idea for Bitcointalk or other forums like it.

But Im sure Joeyp already knows that and it is already becoming clear that whoever is using that account just wants to troll the forum.

I can’t tell if you’re joking or serious because this topic is ridiculous. Use the search engine, we have already discussed how dangerous AI generated posts can be for the forum. Bitcointalk is a discussion based forum, people come here to interact with other human beings. If you want to chat with a bot, you can do so but don’t bring that nonsense to the forum. This suggestion will only benefit account farmers who have multiple accounts in signature campaigns and cannot possibly contribute anything worth reading. So should we now make changes to favor account farmers??

That is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard so far today. Using AI to write posts? Are you okay with that? Where is the creativity? Where is the uniqueness? Yes, AI can be used for taking suggestions on topics, to search and research certain content, or to improve word choice, but it shouldn't be used as a post writing tool. Your words should be your own. Not some AI generated words.

Unfortunately, I don't agree with you here. I'll tell you the exact reason. Suppose you wrote a topic about trading using AI. Now suppose I have zero knowledge of trading, and I ask a question. Will you be able to answer the question? Of course not; you know nothing about what you wrote because you didn't even write that. Then what's the point? Where are the answers?

I have seen many threads that you created and most of those are made in order to change the current system of the forum. In some of your threads you were opposing the merit system of the forum and now you are suggesting AI written posts. There is a thread by Nutildah where users report all those posts that are created by AI text generators.

The forum is for real humans not for bots and if AI writes the posts for users then they aren't doing anything and that approach will increase spamming on forum. AI generated posts  are going to be no less than a miracle for the account farmers as they will be able to make 100's of posts per day with the help of AI text generators and most of the posts in a thread will be very similar because AI text generators can only share the information that they were trained with.

The signature campaigns are managed by humans whom we call campaigns managers and in most of the managers dislike AI generated text and especially Royse gives rewards to the ones who report those participants in a campaign that use AI to generate text. The AI generated texts are highly disliked by the members of the forum and I recommend you to avoid those AI text generators at any cost.

This is a forum where knowledge is shared and users interact with each other. AI uses the knowledge of others to give you an answer to a question you ask. Copying someone else’s work is shady, so it is not allowed in the forum.

People are here to learn and interact with each other, you can’t share what you don’t have knowledge about, by doing so, you’re already impersonating someone until duly acknowledgement is given to the person as reference to the original work.

Posting texts written by AI is plagiarism, thus how does posting what you didn't construct by yourself make the forum modern, using AI wouldn't get you any rewards from signature campaigns, but it'd get you banned anyway.

If you want to read or interact with AI posts then just create an account in ChatGPT and start conversing with her.

Go through this thread: AI Spam Report Reference Thread and when you’re done come back and tell me how you feel about those posts in that thread.

Most of the time, those using AI don’t know anything about the topic so when an answer is generated for them by an AI they instantly just copy it and paste it here without actually verifying it, and that’s why it’s easy to filter them out from a thread because most of their replies are always Off-topic.

To make forum life more easy and modern, posts and threads writing with AI ( Artificial Intelligence ) could be nice gift for all forum users. AI using in Bitcointalk forum can be also real life saver, when you need to make more posts/threads to receive the signature campaign awards.
Fake reality/spam posts/threads are already presented in the forum, so AI using just improve the fake reality/spam in more modern way.
Plus forum admin probably will be happy with full AI implementation in the forum, because AI currently is the top trend in the Web. AI using in the forum for post/thread writing can be also good advertising for new forum members, who want to use something advanced & new & not seen elsewhere.  
For example, here is the forum member thread -    
Lim Zhe Qin's Investment Philosophy: Exploring the Depth of Wisdom in Financial
May be AI can generate something like this thread, so why not use it.
What you think ?