Topic: Potential inventor of Bitcoin - related or married to Michelle Szabo? (Read 3506 times)
December 29, 2013, 06:28:06 PM
Well this is quite mind blowing!!!
December 09, 2013, 07:24:14 AM
Imagine if they ever get divorced, and the court cant force anyone to pay out half their bitcoins to the other.
December 09, 2013, 07:15:26 AM
Very interesting consequecnce.
December 09, 2013, 06:43:18 AM
So all those sites like Bitpay, Mt Gox saw bitcoin coming 
A lot of people saw Bitcoin coming. Few people envisioned it exactly the way it works now.
Nobody knew the full solution on how to create it so it would actually work, but there was a large crowd of mathematicians, cryptography enthusiasts and early digital currency developers who were looking into this. Hashcash was invented by Adam Back in 1997 mind you. Some people today were already trying to invent proof-of-work based currencies 10 years earliers and the public somehow lost interest. Plenty of fiction back then was already talking about the idea of digital credits. The words 'bit-coin' and 'bit-gold' 'e-gold' 'e-cash' were pretty popular.
I remember e-gold ended badly,still owed money lol
December 09, 2013, 05:53:53 AM
why would he keep himself anonymous then? you mean he intended to set people on a goose hunt to find out his identity?
So people don't discover Bitcoin is dominated by a Jew.
December 08, 2013, 01:49:15 PM
Lol this is actually pretty cool stuff you found. 
Thank you. Research is oftentimes very tedious, and lacks any type of instant reward, but the education received upon analyzing trends is invaluable.
I definitely am not interested in begging for donations but I thought it would be neat if someone sent me one bitcoin, or even a small percentage of one to learn more about the incoming transactions. In any event, I'm still glad I decided to share my research.
Enjoy.
Ps: More information coming soon.
December 08, 2013, 11:58:58 AM
1994 => NSA publishes paper on Electronic Currencies
That NSA word makes me rethink about Bitcoin
December 08, 2013, 11:55:05 AM
so the mt gox has being established by satoshi "crews" before this bitcoin is launched
December 08, 2013, 11:53:24 AM
I am a bit perplexed by the first step here.
Isn't it a bit ironic that the system most use to stay away from surveillance is put in motion by NSA itself?
So Logically
1994 => NSA publishes paper on Electronic Currencies
1998 => Nick Szabo conceives bitgold
1999 => Circle is founded. Possible joint venture between Szabo Karpeles, and others.
2000 => Mark Karpeles registers bitcoins.com
2004 => Bitpay is founded, paving the way for a ready to roll bitcoin payment processor.
2004 => Mt Gox is founded, paving the way for a bitcoin exchange.
2008 => Bitcoin.org is registered.
2009 => Bitcoin is launched by Satoshi Nakamoto
correct me if i'm wrong but... whooooaaaa
1994 => NSA publishes paper on Electronic Currencies
1998 => Nick Szabo conceives bitgold
1999 => Circle is founded. Possible joint venture between Szabo Karpeles, and others.
2000 => Mark Karpeles registers bitcoins.com
2004 => Bitpay is founded, paving the way for a ready to roll bitcoin payment processor.
2004 => Mt Gox is founded, paving the way for a bitcoin exchange.
2008 => Bitcoin.org is registered.
2009 => Bitcoin is launched by Satoshi Nakamoto
correct me if i'm wrong but... whooooaaaa
Isn't it a bit ironic that the system most use to stay away from surveillance is put in motion by NSA itself?
December 08, 2013, 11:44:07 AM
So all those sites like Bitpay, Mt Gox saw bitcoin coming
A lot of people saw Bitcoin coming. Few people envisioned it exactly the way it works now.
Nobody knew the full solution on how to create it so it would actually work, but there was a large crowd of mathematicians, cryptography enthusiasts and early digital currency developers who were looking into this. Hashcash was invented by Adam Back in 1997 mind you. Some people today were already trying to invent proof-of-work based currencies 10 years earliers and the public somehow lost interest. Plenty of fiction back then was already talking about the idea of digital credits. The words 'bit-coin' and 'bit-gold' 'e-gold' 'e-cash' were pretty popular.
December 08, 2013, 04:53:01 AM
@Gusti:
I apologize that you feel like my research is obnoxious.
Let me explain. The information I provided was simply for fun rather than some wild attempt to locate the founder. Honestly, I could not care less who he or she or they are, but would like to publicly congratulate them nonetheless on an absolutely magnificent piece of work that has a chance to change the world.
As mentioned, for a living I work in the media consulting industry so I felt that my rare data should be shared within the Bitcoin community to stimulate the forum by providing evidence of the trends and ownership records of domain assets, no harm intended.
Take care.
I apologize that you feel like my research is obnoxious.
Let me explain. The information I provided was simply for fun rather than some wild attempt to locate the founder. Honestly, I could not care less who he or she or they are, but would like to publicly congratulate them nonetheless on an absolutely magnificent piece of work that has a chance to change the world.
As mentioned, for a living I work in the media consulting industry so I felt that my rare data should be shared within the Bitcoin community to stimulate the forum by providing evidence of the trends and ownership records of domain assets, no harm intended.
Take care.
It's true that btc has gone far beyond what its creator(s) could possibly have imagined.
However, I feel this research does corroborate two pieces of data we have about btc:
1. How politically distant "Satoshi" was from btc's community (privacy advocates, free traders, cryptography/cryptocurrency fans, libertarians, etc.) since its inception
2. How Karpelès has treated Mt. Gox since he acquired it - implementing trading caps, price controls, removing privacy to withdraw USD, otherwise interfering with the market
It seems to me Karpelès/Satoshi came into this not as a part of the community but as someone interested in capitalizing off the niche, and the way he is running Mt. Gox now - like a state, basically - proves he is not particularly interested in liberty, privacy, et al.
Just my 2 mBTC
December 08, 2013, 04:24:59 AM
Bitcoins.com = Mark Karpelès (Tokyo) on 3/30/2000 (double wow)
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Original bitcoins.com domain was registered by aanother individual, for project not related to "our" Bitcoin.
Karpeles bought it later from him.
says the random hero member who may be covering for the identities of his friends
No need to cover anyone (I'm clueless also), but I find this kind of search rather obnoxious.
it's pretty pointless. given the technical prowess of the inventor, these are probably all clues he intended for us to find.
why would he keep himself anonymous then? you mean he intended to set people on a goose hunt to find out his identity?
December 08, 2013, 04:23:39 AM
@Gusti:
I apologize that you feel like my research is obnoxious.
Let me explain. The information I provided was simply for fun rather than some wild attempt to locate the founder. Honestly, I could not care less who he or she or they are, but would like to publicly congratulate them nonetheless on an absolutely magnificent piece of work that has a chance to change the world.
As mentioned, for a living I work in the media consulting industry so I felt that my rare data should be shared within the Bitcoin community to stimulate the forum by providing evidence of the trends and ownership records of domain assets, no harm intended.
Take care.
I apologize that you feel like my research is obnoxious.
Let me explain. The information I provided was simply for fun rather than some wild attempt to locate the founder. Honestly, I could not care less who he or she or they are, but would like to publicly congratulate them nonetheless on an absolutely magnificent piece of work that has a chance to change the world.
As mentioned, for a living I work in the media consulting industry so I felt that my rare data should be shared within the Bitcoin community to stimulate the forum by providing evidence of the trends and ownership records of domain assets, no harm intended.
Take care.
December 08, 2013, 04:12:46 AM
Bitcoins.com = Mark Karpelès (Tokyo) on 3/30/2000 (double wow)
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Original bitcoins.com domain was registered by aanother individual, for project not related to "our" Bitcoin.
Karpeles bought it later from him.
says the random hero member who may be covering for the identities of his friends
No need to cover anyone (I'm clueless also), but I find this kind of search rather obnoxious.
it's pretty pointless. given the technical prowess of the inventor, these are probably all clues he intended for us to find.
December 08, 2013, 04:11:10 AM
So Logically
1994 => NSA publishes paper on Electronic Currencies
1998 => Nick Szabo conceives bitgold
1999 => Circle is founded. Possible joint venture between Szabo Karpeles, and others.
2000 => Mark Karpeles registers bitcoins.com
2004 => Bitpay is founded, paving the way for a ready to roll bitcoin payment processor.
2004 => Mt Gox is founded, paving the way for a bitcoin exchange.
2008 => Bitcoin.org is registered.
2009 => Bitcoin is launched by Satoshi Nakamoto
correct me if i'm wrong but... whooooaaaa
1994 => NSA publishes paper on Electronic Currencies
1998 => Nick Szabo conceives bitgold
1999 => Circle is founded. Possible joint venture between Szabo Karpeles, and others.
2000 => Mark Karpeles registers bitcoins.com
2004 => Bitpay is founded, paving the way for a ready to roll bitcoin payment processor.
2004 => Mt Gox is founded, paving the way for a bitcoin exchange.
2008 => Bitcoin.org is registered.
2009 => Bitcoin is launched by Satoshi Nakamoto
correct me if i'm wrong but... whooooaaaa
I'd add
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2011 => Mt Gox is taken over by Tibanne Ltd., a company registered by Mark Karpelès in Tokyo, Japan
December 08, 2013, 04:10:23 AM
Bitcoins.com = Mark Karpelès (Tokyo) on 3/30/2000 (double wow)
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Original bitcoins.com domain was registered by aanother individual, for project not related to "our" Bitcoin.
Karpeles bought it later from him.
says the random hero member who may be covering for the identities of his friends
No need to cover anyone (I'm clueless also), but I find this kind of search rather obnoxious.
December 08, 2013, 04:04:02 AM
Bitcoins.com = Mark Karpelès (Tokyo) on 3/30/2000 (double wow)
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Original bitcoins.com domain was registered by aanother individual, for project not related to "our" Bitcoin.
Karpeles bought it later from him.
says the random hero member who may be covering for the identities of his friends
December 08, 2013, 03:51:48 AM
interesting thread. is there any evidence that mark knew DPR personally? they seem to know each other.
December 08, 2013, 03:50:54 AM
Bitcoins.com = Mark Karpelès (Tokyo) on 3/30/2000 (double wow)
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Original bitcoins.com domain was registered by aanother individual, for project not related to "our" Bitcoin.
Karpeles bought it later from him.
OK, makes sense... Thanks.
December 08, 2013, 03:46:24 AM
Bitcoins.com = Mark Karpelès (Tokyo) on 3/30/2000 (double wow)
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Original bitcoins.com domain was registered by aanother individual, for project not related to "our" Bitcoin.
Karpeles bought it later from him.
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